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Aislyn · 17/03/2026 16:46

My eldest is at secondary school and has suffered horrific racist bullying due to being identifiably Jewish. She never told anyone, but they guessed due to her appearance, and her saying Eastern European countries when asked 'where are you from?'

Unfortunately the school has been completely unhelpful, and refused to tackle this.

My second child is starting at second and has sen. They are at even higher risk of bullying. They have an appearance that would mean that they could be identified as Jewish, especially when citing Eastern European countries in response to the above question. Can anyone think of a cover story for my child?

(Yes, I have tried to get them a place at a Jewish school, but there is none available)

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DRose3 · 17/03/2026 22:57

Depends, what is your daughter like personality-wise. Doesn't give a f and can stand up to bullies?

If not, and your child’s safety is at risk, and the schools aren't doing anything, I would have them answer London, and as follows:

When pressed about heritage/ethnicity of mother/father say, we don't know, they were adopted. For the other parent, a smorgasbord, mixed origin past relatives from all over (make up multiple places xyz) e.g. “Oh all over really: Greece, South Africa, Hungary, Scotland, Germany…I think.”. Just have her seem really vague and uninterested in the whole thing.

To those saying she's hiding who she is, she's keeping herself safe for now from a potential threat. Learning how to play/navigate the political/social game, just like the games we have to navigate at work and in everyday scenarios will serve her well in life. Survival of the fittest!

SixtySomething · 17/03/2026 22:56

EasternStandard · 17/03/2026 18:12

Why are people disbelieving the experience of the op?

I'm not disbelieving her. As I said, I had no idea there is a 'clearly Jewish look'. If it's about darker skin, some Poles do have dark skin, but are not Jewish.

Supersimkin7 · 17/03/2026 22:55

Some children are dismal little freaks OP.

I suggest your DC smilingly stick to repeating ‘London’ while serenely recollecting what happened to Jew haters in 1946.

Remind them junk doesn’t win. The British, US and a few others hunted and ended them.

BlackbirdShouting · 17/03/2026 22:55

Aislyn · 17/03/2026 19:14

I have done. Nothing changed 😔

It is endemic in the culture of the school, and takes the form if both micro and macro aggressions. For example a teacher making outwardly Anti-Semitic tropes to the class and promoting conspiracy theories around Jews. Another time a child (not mine) mentioned a Jewish relative and their achievement, and the teacher said 'they must have been a money lender'. Only some small examples, I could make many more but worried about it being too identifiable.

That should be a sackable offence.

Manxexile · 17/03/2026 22:54

ThatBlackCat · 17/03/2026 22:07

No it doesn't. Polish are traditionally Catholic. Not Jewish.
According to the 2021 census, 71.3% of all Polish citizens adhere to the Catholic Church

Now, yeah.

But Poland suffered the highest number of civilian deaths (over 5 million ) in all of Europe during WW2.

I suspect a rather large number of them were Jewish

RosesAndHellebores · 17/03/2026 22:53

@Aislyn my father arrived on the UK in 1938 from Berlin via Hamburg where he was sent a few years earlier. His watch word was "blend and integrate".

It shouldn't be happening all over again, however.

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Therescathairinmybath · 17/03/2026 22:49

nomas · 17/03/2026 22:18

It’s the same poster.

In which case my advice remains the same as on the other thread. You can’t change the racism inside this particular school, so your children need to be educated elsewhere. The antisemitism your family have suffered is appalling but sadly, your priority has to be changing school immediately. Don’t wait for a place to come up at a Jewish school, as a less ‘diverse’ non Jewish school won’t have anything like the same issues for your family.

watchingthishtread · 17/03/2026 22:48

Aislyn · 17/03/2026 22:09

Once again, it is in conjunction with their appearance. Yes, Poland is mainly Catholic at present, but it had a very large Jewish community until the second world war.

I'm surprised that teenagers know that. I certainly had no idea that there is such a thing as a stereotypical Polish-Jewish appearance.

SaucepanRattle · 17/03/2026 22:42

I'm so sorry you and your children are experiencing racism. I have never understood why we tar all people of any group with the same brush. What's going on in Ir/Gz / the ME has absolutely nothing to do with 2 children at secondary school in London in terms of their responsibility for what's going on. Anymore than my husband's Russian colleague is responsible for what's happening in Ukraine.

Are you asking for convincing lies you could get your child to tell e.g. Greek or Italian heritage. Or a clear way to tell enough of the truth for the racists to back off?

Sensiblesal · 17/03/2026 22:41

OP I just wanted to come back & apologise for my earlier comment and not realising how much of an issue being Jewish is at the moment.

i have unfortunately warched that Louis Therox documentary & was disgusted about how they were speaking about Jewish people & I know a lot of young people are following these horrible ‘men’

I fully understand why you want a cover story & its absolutely abhorrent that you need to do this to protect your children

Merseymum1980 · 17/03/2026 22:39

SnipSnipMrBurgess · 17/03/2026 22:35

This is ridiculous why are you describing Fran Drescher? This is stereotyping to the max.

Are you trying to say this is how all Jewish people look?

No how i look and quite a few jewish people. The pp asked how they were identified if not wearing orthodox clothing

BlackbirdShouting · 17/03/2026 22:35

Aislyn · 17/03/2026 18:54

Yes, I have done everything possible. Unfortunately it has come from staff as well as pupils and is very much part of the 'culture' of the school.

That is so depressing to hear. I am so sorry. I’m angry on your kids behalf. It’s not up to them to change. But I guess they could learn to do stuck record. ‘I’m from Hackney’ ‘As I said, I’m from Hackney’ ‘You have already asked me that and I’ve answered you’ etc. boring monotone and then may be some ways of moving the conversation on to a new topic. They don’t need to disclose their heritage.

But as I say, the onus shouldn’t be on them to adjust - The onus should be on the school to fix this.

SnipSnipMrBurgess · 17/03/2026 22:35

Merseymum1980 · 17/03/2026 22:32

We often are identified by our noses,bottom.lips, curly hair, slight nasal tone to voice, some olive skin tone and a lot of us use our hands a lot when talking.
Even if dressed western some people can tell

This is ridiculous why are you describing Fran Drescher? This is stereotyping to the max.

Are you trying to say this is how all Jewish people look?

Merseymum1980 · 17/03/2026 22:32

EasternStandard · 17/03/2026 22:27

Has the op said it’s due to what they wear?

We often are identified by our noses,bottom.lips, curly hair, slight nasal tone to voice, some olive skin tone and a lot of us use our hands a lot when talking.
Even if dressed western some people can tell

Merseymum1980 · 17/03/2026 22:29

Im off.mixed jewish and irish heritage but to the knowing eye i look very jewish. I now say Romanian decent to avoid the agro and debates i was getting from customers. My family are actually against some settlement issues and i was actually raised catholic but after a customer called me a jewish pig and egged my car i decided to stop reasoning or admitting my heritage

EasternStandard · 17/03/2026 22:29

Howldens · 17/03/2026 22:05

I couldn’t agree more.

Same

WilfredsPies · 17/03/2026 22:27

SnipSnipMrBurgess · 17/03/2026 21:39

I think this is a good idea, Palestinian people are having to flee from a genocide, it would make sense and explain the relocation.

I think it’s a terrible idea. The majority faith in Palestine is Islam. It’ll take about eight seconds for the kids to work out that she’s not Muslim and then she’ll have a whole other bunch of problems to deal with.

EasternStandard · 17/03/2026 22:27

localnotail · 17/03/2026 21:39

This is ridiculous as London is full of all sort of people, and "British" is definitely not something that can be defined, at least in London.

If by "identifiable" you man they dress in the Orthodox way (like the fashion from the last century Eastern Europe) than I would say there isn't much you can do, it is clearly identifiable no matter where you say you are from. Tone down the clothes a bit, as long as you religion permits?

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Has the op said it’s due to what they wear?

BlackbirdShouting · 17/03/2026 22:27

Aislyn · 17/03/2026 17:12

It's not acceptable to peers. They want to know more when it's clear the person is not ethnically British.

I know. I understand. It’s really sad that they haven’t been taught that it’s not acceptable to make a judgement about anyone just from visible appearance and to accept the persons answer. I am loathed to make suggestions for your kids because it’s not them that need to change their answer. It’s the kids that are asking need to be taught to not push it.

Barnsleybonuz · 17/03/2026 22:26

Aislyn · 17/03/2026 16:54

"London" is not acceptable as an answer, as they don't look British

If they have a London accent the answer is London. Presumably they’re 3rd / 4th gen I’m amazed they even register that they have an Eastern European background. Most Ashkenazi Jews look pretty General European. I’m sorry but if it’s that much of an issue get on the lists for the Jewish schools, there’s always plenty of movement and a place will come up at the big 3 even if it means a bit of travelling

SlightlyTerrifiedButPolite · 17/03/2026 22:21

I dated a non-Jewish polish man who was very olive skinned with dark curly hair and I’ve met other polish people with similar complexions. I would just say Polish especially if that is the truth? I’m really sorry you feel you have to hide your background. One of my brother’s best friends at school was Jewish but he didn’t tell anyone until he left at 18, his mum wouldn’t let him. This was back in the 90s and noughties in Warwickshire

Aislyn · 17/03/2026 22:19

CarbGoading · 17/03/2026 22:16

I can only assume that there is either a large Polish intake at your DC school who would know this history, or its from people of other ME heritages. White British 'left wing' kids are unlikely to have the first clue as to the Polish link to Judaism, unless school history lessons are amazing these days! Either way, those are really hard issues to tackle and either you take it to the Local Authority that your school comes under, the press, or move your DC to a different school. In fact at this point, with no action from the school, I'd be moving them even if it meant we had to move house.

There is a lot of comments of 'go back to Poland' on social media regarding Jews, so it is common knowledge. I don't think I can talk about the make up of the pupil population without getting into trouble with MNHQ, but it is suffice to say that they are not welcoming to Jews.

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nomas · 17/03/2026 22:18

Therescathairinmybath · 17/03/2026 19:01

There was another recent post from someone having similar issues who said their MP was part of the problem! @Aislyn is your MP likely to be helpful?

It’s the same poster.

CarbGoading · 17/03/2026 22:16

Aislyn · 17/03/2026 22:09

Once again, it is in conjunction with their appearance. Yes, Poland is mainly Catholic at present, but it had a very large Jewish community until the second world war.

I can only assume that there is either a large Polish intake at your DC school who would know this history, or its from people of other ME heritages. White British 'left wing' kids are unlikely to have the first clue as to the Polish link to Judaism, unless school history lessons are amazing these days! Either way, those are really hard issues to tackle and either you take it to the Local Authority that your school comes under, the press, or move your DC to a different school. In fact at this point, with no action from the school, I'd be moving them even if it meant we had to move house.

suki1964 · 17/03/2026 22:13

Aislyn · 17/03/2026 16:54

"London" is not acceptable as an answer, as they don't look British

Who looks " British "?

Im British , as a female with hair so dark ( in my youth) it could be seen as black, eyes so blue and I tan well

A sister, as blonde as they come and has to avoid the sun

My Neice and Nephew - olive skinned, brown eyes and one wears a hajib

My husband with his red tinged hair

ALL born in Britain so therefore British

What does "British" look like cos Id be dammed if know

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