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Aislyn · 17/03/2026 16:46

My eldest is at secondary school and has suffered horrific racist bullying due to being identifiably Jewish. She never told anyone, but they guessed due to her appearance, and her saying Eastern European countries when asked 'where are you from?'

Unfortunately the school has been completely unhelpful, and refused to tackle this.

My second child is starting at second and has sen. They are at even higher risk of bullying. They have an appearance that would mean that they could be identified as Jewish, especially when citing Eastern European countries in response to the above question. Can anyone think of a cover story for my child?

(Yes, I have tried to get them a place at a Jewish school, but there is none available)

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Jewishbookworm · 18/03/2026 08:51

OP, I am so so sorry that your children are experiencing this. I haven't read the whole thread so not sure what others have suggested, but perhaps your child can respond something such as oh, one side of my family come from Italy (or some other mediterannean country) but that was a few generations back so don't ask me for my grandmothers pasta recipe. But everyone says I take after that side of the family.

I do hope you sort out a better solution soon for your children who only deserve happiness. And please try and get them to have some positive Jewish experiences, (camp, weekend classes, youth clubs) if they aren't already.

Carla786 · 18/03/2026 08:49

Aislyn · 17/03/2026 19:14

I have done. Nothing changed 😔

It is endemic in the culture of the school, and takes the form if both micro and macro aggressions. For example a teacher making outwardly Anti-Semitic tropes to the class and promoting conspiracy theories around Jews. Another time a child (not mine) mentioned a Jewish relative and their achievement, and the teacher said 'they must have been a money lender'. Only some small examples, I could make many more but worried about it being too identifiable.

Insane. May I ask if this teacher is Muslim? I know many Muslims are not anti Semitic but there does seem to have been rising anti Semitism in this community.

Theseventhmagpie · 18/03/2026 08:49

SpanThatWorld · 17/03/2026 16:56

I can't think of any Eastern European country that would immediately make a child identifiable as Jewish. Are you from Israel?

If yes, your child needs to say they're from where you live now. Do they have a definite Israeli accent?

If not from Israel, I'm not sure what's happening. If children say they're from Poland, Belarus, Ukraine etc, it's usually not assumed that they're Jewish.

I can’t believe I’m reading this thread.
OP is being advised that child should not say they are from Israel. Can no one else see how appalling this is, is it 1937 all over again? Have we learnt nothing?
If I was OP and my child was being bullied for being Jewish and the school was doing nothing I would be making an urgent appointment with a solicitor.
I’m beginning not to recognise this country.

Wellthisisdifficult · 18/03/2026 08:49

Carla786 · 18/03/2026 08:16

I'm surprised too. Maybe because I frankly don't expect people that age who are bullying to know very much about the history of the Jews in Poland, I'd expect people that unpleasant to likely be ignorant too.

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Surely you are not that naive. My 13 year old has learned about the Second World War at least 3 times in school now and can tell you chapter and verse about Jews in Europe and what happened to them. Also social media which they all watch has some very unpleasant things on it.

Snaletrale · 18/03/2026 08:48

Hopefully you’ll find a different child and a different school might mean a completely different experience.

Or just say Italy as someone’s gm did. If questioned they can say they don’t know much as parents born in London too and no one speaks Italian.

Carla786 · 18/03/2026 08:47

Wellthisisdifficult · 18/03/2026 08:41

Why does the well known world wide phenomenon of rising anti semitism sound “odd” to you when someone gives an example. Is it more you feel uncomfortable?

I don't mean rising anti Semitism. I mean the situation where someone's being interrogated about being Jewish, saying they're from an Eastern European country is perceived as a clue etc. I'm Gen Z and I just find it hard to imagine teenagers in school being this obsessed and aggressive. But I believe OP because SM & groups like Palestine Action have stirred up significant anti Semitism.

Carla786 · 18/03/2026 08:44

toomanystupidquestions · 17/03/2026 19:00

They are questioning why it's apparently useless saying "from London" when Londoners are the most diverse population in the UK

It could be that the people persistently asking the questions do not identify as (first and foremost) British either, even if they were born in Britain, so telling them you are British won't satisfy them. I'm a second generation Indian, and I get persistently interrogated about my background from people within the Pakistani community locally (with whom | work). Telling them I am a born and bred Midlander just results in the, "Where are you really from" question, before they move onto religion. Telling them I am an atheist doesn't satisfy them either. The very purpose of the questioning is to establish your differences, not to accept that you are the same as them.

Horrible behavior,I'm sorry you've experienced that

Wellthisisdifficult · 18/03/2026 08:43

toomanystupidquestions · 18/03/2026 08:31

That's the whole point. The kids asking the questions don't consider themselves British first and foremost. So they don't accept another "foreign looking" person identifying themselves as British. I - British born, Indian heritage, proud Brit - get this all the time from other people who look like me, but who don't identify as British the way I do; and who can't accept that my Indian heritage isn't my foremost concern and that I don't identify as "Indian", so persistently ask the "where are you really from" question until they get the answer they want.

Not to mention the whole contingent of people who think only white people can be racist.

Wellthisisdifficult · 18/03/2026 08:41

Carla786 · 18/03/2026 08:33

Ashkhenazi Jews do have some features often in common despite some being in Poland,,some in Germany etc. But I agree the whole situation sounds odd. Unfortunately there's a lot of odd stuff on SM, to say the least. I'm sure that's fuelling this hatefulness.

Why does the well known world wide phenomenon of rising anti semitism sound “odd” to you when someone gives an example. Is it more you feel uncomfortable?

PurpleThistle7 · 18/03/2026 08:40

Well to complicate things further, my children are ethnically half Jewish - my husband isn’t Jewish. And they look like him. So while I look an awful lot like my mum and grandmother and great grandmother (all Ashkenazi Jews who as a culture were ethnically restricted enough to create their own diseases), my kids don’t look ‘Jewish’. They just look ‘not Scottish’. But we all get questions all the time - usually without any sort of horrible reason, but always with the assumption we’ll have an interesting answer.

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Carla786 · 18/03/2026 08:36

SnipSnipMrBurgess · 17/03/2026 17:43

Jeepers I've curly hair and a massive nose and im as Irish as a potato. I thought these were smear tropes to use against Jewish people no?

Just because anti Semites used them as slurs historically doesn't mean they are slurs. It's like I was taught in school 'Jews are followers of a religion, not a race'. This was to stave of racism but ignores that Jews are an ethnic group & see themselves as such, & there's nothing wrong with that.

NotAllBirds · 18/03/2026 08:33

toomanystupidquestions · 18/03/2026 08:31

That's the whole point. The kids asking the questions don't consider themselves British first and foremost. So they don't accept another "foreign looking" person identifying themselves as British. I - British born, Indian heritage, proud Brit - get this all the time from other people who look like me, but who don't identify as British the way I do; and who can't accept that my Indian heritage isn't my foremost concern and that I don't identify as "Indian", so persistently ask the "where are you really from" question until they get the answer they want.

This explains it well. The amount of whitesplaining on this thread 😏

Carla786 · 18/03/2026 08:33

igelkott2026 · 17/03/2026 17:38

You need to contact the governors of the school. Is it an academy or a local authority school? Academies tend to be a bit of a law unto themselves but still have to deal with racism.

I don't know what stereotypically Eastern European Jewish looks like and how on earth do teens know what they look like? Even if they've been brought up with pictures of Anne Frank, she was (Western) German!

Ashkhenazi Jews do have some features often in common despite some being in Poland,,some in Germany etc. But I agree the whole situation sounds odd. Unfortunately there's a lot of odd stuff on SM, to say the least. I'm sure that's fuelling this hatefulness.

NotAllBirds · 18/03/2026 08:32

Onmytod24 · 18/03/2026 08:01

From what the OP has said their child is at a school where most children are not what she calls ‘British looking’ so I don’t know what this ‘where do you come from’ question is about. it just doesn’t seem to make sense. I’m not disputing it. It just doesn’t make logical sense.

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People do ask about family background even if the children are born in the UK. Teachers actively seek this out too and ask children where their name is from or where their families are from. Then there is culture day...... these topics do come up.

OP, best case is a jewish school, second best case is catholic school. Alternatively, your dc can say my mum's English and my grandparents are from Albania, Slovenia, Malta perhaps.

toomanystupidquestions · 18/03/2026 08:31

Onmytod24 · 18/03/2026 08:01

From what the OP has said their child is at a school where most children are not what she calls ‘British looking’ so I don’t know what this ‘where do you come from’ question is about. it just doesn’t seem to make sense. I’m not disputing it. It just doesn’t make logical sense.

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That's the whole point. The kids asking the questions don't consider themselves British first and foremost. So they don't accept another "foreign looking" person identifying themselves as British. I - British born, Indian heritage, proud Brit - get this all the time from other people who look like me, but who don't identify as British the way I do; and who can't accept that my Indian heritage isn't my foremost concern and that I don't identify as "Indian", so persistently ask the "where are you really from" question until they get the answer they want.

Wellthisisdifficult · 18/03/2026 08:30

This is horrendous- I’m so sorry your kids are going through this. I hope the idiots on here who are inciting this kind of anti semitism with their marches are hanging their heads in shame.

If this were me, I’d be looking to move out of London and maybe more countryside for a while whilst your kids are in school.

The fact your kids need a cover story to hide who they are is shameful and I’m embarrassed for this country.

Carla786 · 18/03/2026 08:27

Itsmetheflamingo · 17/03/2026 17:19

Not necessarily. As I said, saying they’re say Greek might satisfy the bullies as an explanation as to why they are darker toned/ Mediterranean.

there aren’t any Jews in Greece so it doesn’t signal confirmation of Jewishness

There are some Jews in Greece, it is a small community though.

https://www.worldjewishcongress.org/en/about/communities/gr

Community in Greece - World Jewish Congress

Representing Jewish Communities In 100 Countries Across Six Continents

https://www.worldjewishcongress.org/en/about/communities/gr

FourSevenTwo · 18/03/2026 08:27

2O26 · 18/03/2026 06:10

What is it that makes your child "identifiably Jewish?" Is it what they wear or do they wear a Star of David pendant?

I am asking because one poster said "I’m quite shocked by the comments about looking Jewish. Jews come in all shapes sizes and colours".

Jews maybe do come in all shapes, size and colours.

At the same time a specific shape, size and colour can be recognised as "highly probably jewish".

So you can't recognise all Jews by the looks, but you can suspect someone might be Jewish based on their looks - mostly facial features and colouring
Yes, even when they wear bog standar haircut and no tells in clothes.

Carla786 · 18/03/2026 08:25

Aislyn · 17/03/2026 17:10

The region we originate from has been part of different countries over the years, which is why it is not just one country. I am not naming them for privacy, but the answer may be fairly obvious to those with knowledge of history.

Part-Polish Catholic here & I see exactly what you mean. Sending a 🫂 and hope your DD can be moved to a safe school & the bullies punished.

LakieLady · 18/03/2026 08:25

Aislyn · 17/03/2026 19:14

I have done. Nothing changed 😔

It is endemic in the culture of the school, and takes the form if both micro and macro aggressions. For example a teacher making outwardly Anti-Semitic tropes to the class and promoting conspiracy theories around Jews. Another time a child (not mine) mentioned a Jewish relative and their achievement, and the teacher said 'they must have been a money lender'. Only some small examples, I could make many more but worried about it being too identifiable.

That's just appalling.

I can't imagine why a school would let this continue. If I'd made such a comment to a colleague in most of of the places I've worked, I'd have been given a warning and ended up in disciplinary proceedings if I'd done it again.

It's beyond belief that a school is allowing this to continue. Is there a complaints procedure or anything?

Carla786 · 18/03/2026 08:22

Camcam · 18/03/2026 06:34

Sorry to hear your son is experiencing this OP. As for people interrogating you about mentioning Eastern European countries, have they not heard of Ashkenazi Jews?

I have Ashkenazi descent and most of my family on DF side look Jewish. However me and my brother often get mistaken for Slavs.

My xh is from a neighbouring country to Isreal. Very fair skin but dark features and was often mistaken for Greek, Spanish, Italian Balkan or Cypriot even by the local Arabs.

Your dc shouldn’t have to hide the fact they are Jewish and the school sound useless but if pressed by other kids, they could just say one of the above countries and a one like Poland. I myself am part Russian/Polish on one side and Spanish on the other.

I suppose some people might be wondering why, if she looks Slavic, the children assumed she was Slavic Jewish specifically. I suppose of they're fixated on Jewish people they might just have picked a person they perceived as 'most likely'. Terrible....

Onmytod24 · 18/03/2026 08:22

472 Then children have changed in the last few years

FourSevenTwo · 18/03/2026 08:19

Onmytod24 · 18/03/2026 08:01

From what the OP has said their child is at a school where most children are not what she calls ‘British looking’ so I don’t know what this ‘where do you come from’ question is about. it just doesn’t seem to make sense. I’m not disputing it. It just doesn’t make logical sense.

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Sounds that it is a school when big proportion of children actively live with their foreign heritage - some mix of looks, culture, religion. They are aware that they are "not local" and they are probing for heritage of the others - especially when they suspect "an enemy" based on physical appearance.

Carla786 · 18/03/2026 08:18

PurpleThistle7 · 18/03/2026 07:52

The first time we had to report a hate crime to the police it was a group of white Scottish girls who surrounded my daughter while yelling terrible things. She was 9.

The next meeting with the school was one of those girls following my daughter around and whispering more of it. Also 9

The next time was an Italian boy and a Syrian boy telling her they hope her whole family dies and they’re going to find her wee brother. 10 here.

The next time was a group of Muslim teenagers surrounding her in the stairwell and telling her they were going to call their older cousins to follow her home so they ‘know where you Jews live’. Police involved here too. 11 here. First month of high school.

The next time was a handful of white Scottish children telling her Anne Frank was weak and the Jews should have tried harder. Then they blocked her from leaving the library and asked her if she was weak. She is not. We signed her up for self defense classes after the last incident. 12 here and about to have her Bat Mitzvah.

There were a handful of other things too but these were what first came to mind. I don’t think there are particular groups of people more or less inclined to be bigots. It’s everywhere.

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The next time was a handful of white Scottish children telling her Anne Frank was weak and the Jews should have tried harder. Then they blocked her from leaving the library and asked her if she was weak. She is not. We signed her up for self defense classes after the last incident. 12 here and about to have her Bat Mitzvah.

  • what the hell?? This is insane.

It seems like far too many Jewish people in this country are living in a terrifying reality that too many non-Jews are unaware of.

What is spreading these bigoted views? Social media? I've personally noticed a lot of racism on there.