Just get mounjaro!

Great post!

I’m a little bemused, it reads to me like a poster who isn’t on tn4 meds has decided to take a public service approach and inform people they may need to be on for life, in case they didn’t know. And they need to change their eating habits, that’s kind, very. I wonder if they are on the other diet threads like slimming world or low carb and informing them they need to do the same?

it’s lovely how many women are so concerned for other women, on these injections, that they feel the need to help them just in case. Even though they never asked for that help. And are so very concerned for them. Sitting there getting all slim and lovely.

I think you’ve been extremely personal and dismissive of people either taking WLI or know someone with lived experience.

Your research is flawed as pointed out.

You’re stating stuff as “fact” when it’s not and assuming that people are unable to make their own informed decisions.

Time will tell if users need the medication for “life”, even if they do, which I doubt, it’s their decision.

This has become personal in a way I’m not interested in engaging with. That wasn’t my intention, but I’m stepping away now.

Thank goodness you have! It felt like you had all the time in the world to just keep
posting on here, with the voice of doom!

@PracticalPolicy I have read the BMJ article many times, and that’s what I was referring to. This part is relevant:

”Figure 1 displays the rate of weight regain from all studies for all WMMs and for the subgroups of all incretin mimetics and newer and more effective incretin mimetics. On average, weight loss at cessation of treatment was 8.3 kg (7.2 to 9.5), 10.1 kg (8.2 to 11.9), and 14.7 kg (11.1 to 18.4), respectively. The mixed model (model 1) estimated a monthly rate of weight regain of 0.4 kg (95% CI 0.3 to 0.5), 0.5 kg (0.4 to 0.7), and 0.8 kg (0.7 to 0.9) for any WMM (63 intervention arms, 6322 participants), all incretin mimetics (32 intervention arms, 4757 participants), and newer and more effective incretin mimetics (10 intervention arms, 1776 participants), respectively.”

The average weight lost at cessation of treatment for all WMM was 8.3kg, and 14.7kg for the newer and more effective incretin mimetics . The rate of regain was 0.8kg for the newer and more effective incretin mimetics . That’s across all 37 studies included in the meta study.

I am not arguing with the conclusion that you quoted. I am discussing the relevance of this study to real world use of WLI, and discussing the caveats that the study authors themselves discuss in the conclusion.

It's so funny you never see the concern on other weight loss threads. 'Why are you spending money on Slimming World/ Weightwatchers/ meal plans/ weight loss coaches etc etc, you will just pile it back on when you stop!'

So can being obese? So I think that covers the vast majority of users?

Thank you

It is a risk : benefit ratio. There is a risk with all drugs due to side effects. Diabetes can be a life limiting disease so you can accept a higher level of risk than if you are just a few lbs overweight and want to look good in a dress.

Phew!! I was off to message people I know who are using that Mounjaro stuff, like you say I’ll limit it to the none who are taking that Mountjaro one!

Voy and Med Express.

Like what?

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Well obviously I've hit a nerve!

I'm not going to apologise for the language I use. If using my vocabulary means you feel patronised, that is entirely your issue.

I have better things to do with my time.

Yet you assume people here are defensive, when you have no way of knowing how they feel and what their motives are. Your approach strikes me as risk averse - always a reason not to do or try something. Money, some studies, risks. Why live in fear.

It’s a bloody good job you’re on MN telling everyone who’ll listen! It’s like you don’t think others have the same googling ability as yours!!

Maybe you should seek employment as a dietician or something.

Wish we still had the laugh emoji 😂.

Has no-one git a sense of humour any more?!

If you think I'm being superior, that is on you. You don't have to like what I say, but don't ascribe me malicious motivation to me where none exists.

Thank you for reading the study.

And the conclusion is my point. WLIs are part of the solution but not everything.

It’s fine, that was just a list of risks for Mountjaro, Mounjaro’s evil twin.

I don't understand your question.You are making massive assumptions about me and my motives.

Perhaps you could ask yourself why the information might be helpful.

For some reason I am getting personally attacked on here merely for stating facts.

It tells me that you don't like the facts so you're taking your feelings out on me. Don't shoot the messenger.

I’m doing nothing of the sort. I was citing my reason for wanting corroboration of your figures. I was under no obligation whatsoever to Google stuff and then faff about trying to guess which study you were referring to.

You’ll notice, though, that said study also concludes ‘These findings suggest caution in short term use of these drugs without a more comprehensive approach to weight management.’ The last 8 words are the most significant in terms of keeping weight off, if my own experiences are anything to go by.