To have been “racially” profiled by HR

As I understand from MN outside of m25 is savage land. M25 is essentially The Wall just without the ice😂

Just to add a serious note. They interviewe everyone because one can be hite with britiwh passport and still be victim of forced marriage or undue pressure. While rarer, it happens. It's also to confim identity.

At risk of derailing a hilarious thread (sorry @Donotfitin )

What evidence can a person provide that they have ‘never been outside London’, and why would someone never go outside London?

These things happen to everyone. My husband was annoyed about the reaction he got when he went with our DD to the male doctor and the doctor insisted on getting a female chaperone to look at her ankle. I said I think that is policy if I’d been there as well. It is strange world we live in.

Guess what…I’m also a POC with a non-British sounding surname, so I don’t need the lecture. This isn’t about “being offended.” It’s about the fact that these so called “genuine mistakes” happen far too often. That repetition is what’s exhausting and it creates a constant sense of othering. It reminds people that they are different and seen as different.

Pointing it out isn’t outrage; it’s recognising a pattern and challenging the kind of unconscious bias that’s still too easily accepted.

Nice try but I'm a POC who has a not traditionally British surname. My opinion remains that it must be exhausting to be constantly offended and outraged at situations like this which seem to be genuine mistakes with no malicious intent. A simple 'here's my passport as I don't have a share code' would suffice.

Well I am having to ask everyone in my 5% not British and 95% British team and check their passports even though I have known some of them for decades. So tedious.

“Life is too short to be so full of hate.”

You think? Interesting theory for someone who has done nothing but insult.

Racism exits. It’s horrific and needs to be stamped out.

Assuming someone might not be British is not the end of the world. That is all that happened here.

Treating someone badly because you assume they’re not British is racism and horrific, but this didn’t happen here.

Not a tactic. Just responding to what I’m given.

Clearly you’re someone who is in the category of denying racism exists so all I can say is do better. Life is too short to be so full of hate.

I have no interest in spending any more time engaging with you tonight so good night.

So why are you persevering with it as a tactic?

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Being deliberately obtuse doesn’t actually work…

And where has that been done?

Because it certainly wasn’t done to OP.

It’s bad when it’s used as a weapon to say you’re not truly British and therefore don’t belong.

Not sure why that is such a hard concept to understand and trying to minimise that by saying “what’s the big deal” doesn’t make you clever.

AAAAAAAAAARRRGHHHHHHH!

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Many places ask everyone, my son had to undertake a right to work check. They don’t just ask people with a non British sounding name.

The absolute worst case scenario is that someone has assumed she isn’t British.
That’s the absolute WORST case scenario.

Since when was not being British a bad thing?

Yes, it is exhausting having to constantly deal with ignorant and close minded people who struggle with the idea of British people having a variety of names and consisting of a variety of cultures and religions.

It must be exhausting.

Exactly, I can't believe people actually carry on like this!

OP hasnt magnified the mistake - she responded very sensibly and in a way that will hopefully lead to this not happening again. It's some of the commentators on this thread. They sound like they work for Farage since they are doing their best to make anyone who might possibly be seen as non British unlikeable. .

@Donotfitinyou've had the patience of a saint on this thread. I've worked in HR for 15 years and I'd be mortified to have made such a clumsy error - it's not on, best way is to ask for right to work. No assumptions are necessary! I'm pleased you've taken it as a clumsy error and nothing more, I hope your reply made them have a think about the wording.

Always nice to see the usual HR bashing on this thread by some though, always appreciated!

So calling out a racism is a form of bullying?! Honestly, MN has become Farage Central.

There's another thread running at the moment where a mum is looking for ways to hide her child being Jewish due to the racist bullying their older sibling is experiencing at another school. Whilst most posters are overwhelmingly supportive and speaking out against the racism, nearly all of them state disbelief around the mother's course of action and that "in this day and hide you don't need to hide being Jewish" and "why don't you talk to the school".

If anyone wants to be anti racist rather than paying lip service to not being a racist, listen to the people who are telling you their experiences. Why do you think you know more than them? Would you tell a lesbian that homophobic actions are just a mistake? A domestic abuse victim that their abuser just made a mistake and don't magnify it? Living with racism day in and day out is a trauma too, but one that should be minimised rather than magnified?

We don't know if OP magnifies every 'mistake'. What we do know is that making assumptions about someone's 'Britishness' based off of anything outside of the specific individual's information is more than a mistake.

The correct question to be asked is the question that is applied with equality - please confirm your right to work. Nothing more and nothing less. Asking for the code isn't a mistake, no matter how much you try and contort this, codes are only required for people who need them. And HR wouldn't know who needed a code unless that person was unable to prove their right to work.

I do consider this behaviour as a microagression. It's the different treatment based on perceived difference. The othering. We all have bias. Let's be honest. But it's a problem when you cannot learn from others and check your own bias.

Others have. If people think every mistake is going to be magnified they will not want to be around you - so they will treat you differently. Only simple minds fail to understand that.

Op hasnt said she feels this is a micro aggression so stop talking out your farter.