To have been “racially” profiled by HR

My husband (born in England, English name) worked for the NHS for 40 years then retired. Signed up to the Bank for relief shifts and had to prove he had the right to work. I think it's just a box that has to be ticked now, not necessarily racial profiling.

I hold my hands up and admit I haven't read the rest of the thread.

You'll be fine generating a code then! Go ahead and let us know how it goes.

I don’t work in HR but I did used to have to use a HR portal with docs and when new staff were interviewed we asked them for proof of ID (not right to work) where a passport or driving licence would suffice. You could flag this up with HR.

Cancel the cheque OP!

Sometimes you really do have to just let things go otherwise you are going to have a very stressful life

Taking this as a one off incident you can "let go" is a privileged and luxury stance only available to those who are not systemically disadvantaged.

It hits a bit like "rape jokes are just banter, you need to let them go otherwise you will have a very stressful life"

😂😂

I'm thinking that poster will be slinking away pretending there hasn't been an egg -> face interaction

As explained by OP and several PPs it’s not the check that is the issue, it’s the presumption about which process will be followed. I’ve never asked for a share code without knowing it will be necessary (after seeing a passport copy). It would actually be a waste of time and cause confusion to do so.

😂😂😂😂😂

Thank you for this really helpful post, none of which had already been established and is completely beside the point

Yes possibly something to do with the certificate of entitlement, which I’ve not come across before…who knows!

On occasions MN makes me feel really good about my level of reading and comprehension skills as an ESOL 😁

Right to work checks are mandatory UK legal checks for all employees, conducted before work starts to verify their legal right to work. Use the {Link: online checking service https://www.gov.uk/view-right-to-work} with a share code for non-British/Irish citizens (visa holders) or manually verify original, genuine documents (like passports) for British/Irish citizens.

They should check everyone.

I'm not surprised they asked for a code... Some of the guidance I've seen about right to rent (similar checks needed) imply you need to ask for a code.

For the hard of thinking, OP is NOT being asked to provide evidence of her right to work. She fully understands this is normal. The issue is the specific evidence she has been asked for - a document she (and probably the majority of candidates) does not, and could not have, rather than appropriate options.

It's similar to, if you needed to pick up a parcel from the sorting office, instead of being told 'Please provide proof of ID, such as a passport, credit card or driver's license,' you were told 'Please show your driver's license for ID' - something that not everybody would have, and some people might be completely unable to provide (e.g. under 17s, people with significant physical disabilities, etc.)

But that poster has posted the link to a .gov site and said thats where you go to generate a code.

I cant think of any unique circumstances where that poster can generate a code using the site they themselves have posted, where a few of us cant even create an account.

Anyhoo, im sure that poster will clear it up!

The definition also includes ‘unfair discrimination’. Is asking someone with a name that is not traditionally English for a share code instead of a passport to prove their right to work in the UK ‘unfair discrimination’?

Some people are really falling over themselves to justify a microaggression. YANBU OP.

Perhaps there is a unique set of circumstances that means @FlapperFlamingo can use this system, but as someone on the other side of the checks we can’t use this for British and Irish citizens. For them, it’s either checking the document in person or the workplace can invest in an approved system for secure online checks (not the Home Office site, private companies approved to meet the verification standards for an online check).

Yep. Also failed. Would love to know how @FlapperFlamingo managed to overcome all these steps. Perhaps there’s a page in our British passports we have missed?

Oh my god. Can people actually read?

OP yanbu (and have the patience of a saint in terms of biting your tongue for some of these replies).

It's not a minor mistake either, if they're so incompetent as to not be able to ask for your right to work evidence correctly, I think it's highly likely that if you just replied 'I can't get a code,' (as many people might, rather than the clarification you provided that this is because you're a UK citizen) they'd probably assume that meant you didn't have the right to work in the UK and withdraw the job offer.

There is every chance that a box was ticked wrong somewhere or someone junior sent out the wrong standard template (possibly having made an assumption on name which would tilt towards profiling).

Either way HR did make a mistake but there is still some ambiguity about why that mistake was cause. Could be an innocent mistake, could be lack of training, could be erroneous assumptions based on a name. The OP has already said she’s sent in her passport. I don’t think some of the more guns blazing suggestions were appropriate.

School boy/girl error

Safer to assume everyone is a British passport holder than a visa holder

Yes, except for OP they skipped asking for her passport and went straight to ask for her code showing she’s allowed to work in the UK because of her name…

OP maybe email them back and ask them to clarify. 'Do you mean you would like evidence of my right to work? '

I would be interested to see what they say, but I would be reluctant to start work here. Its not exactly started on the right foot.