Foul language on here.

People have always sworn, its not new, you need to get used to it I'm afraid. It's just words and you'll never stop it.

I think people who swear actually have a higher vocabulary and intelligence, it has been proven. We are also adults who when making a point can respond with swearing.

The majority of people on here are also parents who are stressed, juggling everything every day and facing financial worries plus a million other things.

So if they want to swear, I'm fine with it. 😊

You can also just scroll on by to the PG section of the world, that doesn't exist.

So have I. But I have worked in the real world, in the NHS and education, not stuck hidden in an office. Looks like you need to get out more. I have heard it for as long as we have reported things on a system. I don’t suppose you have to database many incidents which involve real people.

What case? It's fine for you to not like it. Swearing not directed at me doesn't bother me in the slightest.

One of my favourite ejaculations of frustration is fuckitybumshit!

I'd like to add this to the MN lexicon but I'm aware these things happen organically.

I just came here for the swearing. I wasn't disappointed 😂

It’s a default word or string of words that don’t articulate an argument. For example, in court, no barrister would be allowed to swear. Or a witness. They have to find words to state the exact position of the case or what they saw or believe to be the truth. Human beings are capable of that.

Of course human beings are capable of that. We are capable of many things. Does the fact that we are capable of it make it obligatory? Why should we treat a discussion on Mumsnet like we’re barristers trying to make a case in court? We don’t treat conversations with friends like that, or customer service calls. It’s irrelevant that people can do it - just as the fact that people wear business suits and uniforms in some jobs is irrelevant to jobs with no such requirement.

If you’re ready to dismiss or ignore an argument because someone has sworn when making it, I’m afraid you’re the one limiting yourself.

well - i knew how this thread was going to go before i even read it 😂.

Same in Australia

Fuck! WTF? (Mostly that’s pheasants)

Because pheasants are airheads.

As my dearest, posh chum would say "Don't be a can't."

Its also far more confusing when people misuse standard nouns or other words than when they swear.

If someone swears I’m pretty clear on what they actually mean. When they change the meaning of existing terms I wonder what the hell they are talking about.

Quite so. I don’t very often swear in writing but don’t mind if others do to express their emotion or for humorous effect.
At this time of year I might roll out my bird interpreter; all those songs and calls are basically saying either:
Fuck off!
or
Fuck me!
or
Fuck! WTF? (Mostly that’s pheasants)

I’ve had a 4 decade career writing software and have never once come across ‘database’ as a verb until this thread. I suppose it’s a convenient lazy shorthand if you only have one possible database to log/archive/store/… your information in.

They're doing it in reaction to people trying to dictate to them how they can and can't express themselves, and in my opinion that's a reasonable response.

This. MN is one of the few places on the internet where women's speech isn't policed.

To call that "bullying" is to weaponise #bekind into something that is actually very unkind.

No-one dies from reading the words fuck or cunt or dick or twat. No-one is forced to use that language and no-one is judged for not using that language.

Whereas the OP and other PPs calling it bullying or distasteful are attempting to police other women's speech. Not a very #kind thing, nor a particularly sisterly thing to do.

And the Middle English swyving, which I’ve always liked, and which was standard before ‘fuck’ came into use around the 16thc.

I recently saw a reel with a 3 year old child having found his Christmas elf on the toilet seat which was covered in chocolate spread.

He shouted to his mother who was recording his reaction,

"what's he done"
"what's he done"
" He's done a f...... sh..."

I was shocked but I'm ashamed to admit I was in hysterics.

Fuck as a word is as old as the hills, I think there have been theories as to how it came into being, such as Forbidden Unlawful Carnal Knowledge, but I don’t think it’s ever been proven. Anyway it’s much easier to say ‘oh fuck that hurts’ than ‘oh sex that hurts’.
Dunno how cunt came into being. But I find it interesting what makes some words seem offensive (when unrelated to blasphemy)compared to others. When I was growing up ‘shit’ was seen as a very ‘bad’ word, and yet ‘ poo’ or ‘crap’ were just dandy. At primary school I got ticked off for saying asking to go to the ‘loo’, and it had to be called the ‘water closet’ quite a mouthful for a small kid, even the word ‘toilet’ was seen as poor form 🫣. Personally I’d rather be called a fucker or a fuckwit than an arsehole, if I fuckup or do something aresholery, but that’s just my preference as I don’t like the phrase arsehole, and calling someone a useless sphincter muscle just doesn’t have the same ring to it😆.

I sometimes use Talk to Text and it automatically puts the stars in in.
Language is very subjective .What somebody finds offensive somebody else isn't going be in the slightest bit bothered about. I think it depends on context I wouldn't expect somebody to drop cunt and fuck at parents' evening in a primary school but in an online forum m where at times people are very upset I wouldn't get bothered about it.
I do think the argument that it shows a lack of vocabulary is absolute bullshit and is a really lazy statement.

Totally agree

Aye, hen.
🤣

I'm entirely capable of articulating what I mean, and I have an extensive vocabulary.

These threads always throw up a couple of posters who believe that those who swear do so because they have a poor vocabulary. This is emphatically not the case.

I use words daily which other people don't appear to recognise, and I don't mean "cunt" or "fuck".

Haha, maybe OP and the more highbrow anti-swearing posters would have preferred us to use Chaucer's spellings of queyntes and erses.

Cunt is like a term of endearment here in Scotland

Rest what case? Yabu to expect it.