Please or to access all these features

AIBU?

Share your dilemmas and get honest opinions from other Mumsnetters.

AIBU about expecting DH to be less stressed on weekend outings with kids?

63 replies

mothersdayq · 15/03/2026 11:10

Trying to work out if I’m expecting too much here.

We live in a big city and have two children: baby and 4yo. I’m a SAHM (with a passive income to avoid a drip feed) and quite used to just getting on with things when we’re out (crying, tantrums, snacks, etc).

He finds our 4yo difficult to deal with due to normal 4yo things like tantruns, constantly changing their mind (“I want my banana peeled / no not peeled”), stopping every five minutes on a walk to point at a leaf or something interesting, spillages of drinks or just the endless talking. All fairly typical stuff but he finds it quite overwhelming.

Then with the baby he panics as soon as the baby cries. Yesterday for example we’d been out walking for about an hour and the baby started crying in the buggy. Instead of just calmly heading somewhere to sit, DH immediately started panicking about there being no benches and his mood immediately changed, no chatting, stressed expression. We ended up walking to a café which was always the obvious solution anyway.

He then suggested maybe we should bring bottles so we can just feed immediately anywhere the baby cries. But realistically the baby is quite big and I can’t just stand in the middle of a park feeding, I’d still need somewhere to sit like a bench or café. He also asked why we make it so difficult for ourselves by going on days out as opposed to mainly staying home or going out for short one hour bursts so we’re never too far from home.

He gets very stressed if the baby cries in public, scanning the room, worrying about people looking at us, wanting to leave immediately even if we’re somewhere casual like a Costa.

The overall effect is that within about 10 minutes of an outing I often feel like it would actually be calmer if I’d just taken the kids myself. But the flip side is that I don’t like the idea that he opts out and I’m always the one doing everything while he gets the relaxed role.

Yesterday it sort of illustrated the dynamic: we were in a café while I was feeding the baby and the 4yo had slightly spilled something. DH was getting increasingly stressed so I said “do you want to go on a little walk?” and he actually it became far less stressful.

So I’m stuck between two things: outings with him often feel more stressful than outings without him but i also don’t want him opting out completely and me doing everything alone

Am I being unreasonable expecting him to cope with this stage of parenting a bit more calmly? Or is this just a phase some people struggle with until the kids are older?

The kids thing aside, he’s loving, caring, does a lot at home. Just struggles with kids stuff.

OP posts:
New posts on this thread. Refresh page
CreepingCrone · 25/03/2026 13:48

@mothersdayq this sounds really tough on you. Does he ever take his children out without you? Do you ever get time to yourself? If not, this needs to change.
My.kids are grown ups now, but this smacks of weaponised incompetence.
To be Frank, he'll never get the hang of it if he doesn't get chance to develop these coping & parenting skills.
I think you need to rip the plaster off and leave him to it. Show him you have every confidence in him, and let him get on with it. He might not enjoy it and he might be in a bad mood - sorry, that comes with the territory!
He's had a very soft start to being a dad. He's your partner, you're not his mum. Makes some concrete plans for yourself (cinema/a day out/ trip to a museum/ meeting friends for lunch), and leave him to it. Then do it again. He doesn't need to know exact location or timings - you don't want him hovering outside the restaurant while you eat!!
Practice makes perfect. Don't baby your husband, he needs to develop his confidence and will develop a newfound admiration for how easy you make it look.
And you don't need to ask his permission for this. It's for his own good. It's for your own good too. And it's necessary and beneficial for your children to have a proper relationship with their dad.
Good luck, I have every confidence in you 🖤

CombatBarbie · 25/03/2026 12:54

mothersdayq · 25/03/2026 12:37

@MintoTime
we came to the decision to have kids because we both wanted kids.
I think he understood that it’s hard in theory but didn’t have any practical experience, no nieces or nephews. Of course some friends had children but it’s very different, coming to visit for an hour or two vs having your own kids.

So then give him the harsh reality, he goes out without you with the kids. You have managed, why cant he. Honestly I don't know why you dont have the ick.

mothersdayq · 25/03/2026 12:37

@MintoTime
we came to the decision to have kids because we both wanted kids.
I think he understood that it’s hard in theory but didn’t have any practical experience, no nieces or nephews. Of course some friends had children but it’s very different, coming to visit for an hour or two vs having your own kids.

OP posts:
MintoTime · 25/03/2026 08:47

I'm sorry OP, it sounds like you're married to someone who was not prepared for the realities of parenting, and who is not willing to change in order to be a better parent / partner now that he's gone along with it and had children with you.

He doesn't like mess
He doesn't like crying / loud noises
He is perpetually tired and needs to nap
He gets anxious and embarrassed if people are looking at him
He's 'not into parenting'

How did you come to a decision to actually have children? Did he agree to it? Does he have any nephews / neices / much exposure to children before his own?

mothersdayq · 24/03/2026 22:40

@Abd80
muddy shoes get everything else muddy around (the car, his jeans if he tries to lift the child, the hallway at home etc) and he hates mess.
big feelings - he doesn’t like noise / loud crying and just thinks it shouldn’t happen.
no, his parents are / were perfect parents, how dare I say anything against them

OP posts:
Abd80 · 24/03/2026 22:34

In my experience of three breastfed babies if they’re upset they cry even more when presented with a bottle, whereas if you just breastfeed them straight away they’re immediately happy and quiet. So I wouldn’t bother with the faff of pumping and washing bottles if it were me.
if I were you I’d wear baby in a sling for the next day out. So husband can’t check out and make the buggy or pram his job.
can you ask him why things like muddy shoes or big feelings / indecision /normal behaviour from small children bothers him so much ? Was he punished as a small child for these small and normal things ? Were his parents strict or cruel to him?

mothersdayq · 24/03/2026 22:31

@Anon501178
i don’t know for sure. I’ve had tensions with his family (unrelated to this, just clashing personalities and different ideas about life) before so it’s a sensitive topic and he wouldn’t say a word wrong about them. They were great parents. The best parents. None of his anxieties or “quirks” are because of them.

OP posts:
mothersdayq · 24/03/2026 22:24

@sittingonabeach
when youngest was a baby he was similar but perhaps not as vocal in letting me know how much he struggles with these things, didn’t remove himself from tricky situations quite so fast.

Hes not confirmed this but I think with my eldest there was also the “novelty factor” of having a baby and wanting to do dad things but now he’s happy to let me do it all. That’s a guess though based on behaviour.

OP posts:
mothersdayq · 24/03/2026 22:21

@MintoTimehe just insists that he isn’t made for parenting, it’s hard. That I’m naturally better at it. We can’t all be as good as I am at it. I always knew I wanted kids and he was very take it or leave it about having them, so perhaps that’s why. That’s his excuse…

even at home with no one watching if the baby is crying too much he’ll excuse himself into a different room. We don’t both need to deal with the baby at the same time, right? And he struggles to listen to the crying, needs some peace and quiet.

OP posts:
mothersdayq · 24/03/2026 22:17

@Amiacoolorwarmcolour
i mean going to the local zoo 20 mins drive away, a different park that’s a half an hour bus journey, a town 40 mins away etc. instead of the local park across the road from us. He’d prefer to be within 10 mins walking distance from our house all the time. Ideally leave the house, get a coffee, walk for 20 mins, return.

DH really struggles if left 1 on 1 with our eldest. At the slightest hint of an issue (eg I’ve left them cottage pie for dinner to heat up and she doesn’t fancy cottage pie that day / he couldn’t understand what she was asking for so she had a meltdown because couldn’t get her message across) he panics, gets in a mood, tells me this is impossible and asks when I’m returning.
absolutely wouldn’t consider parenting courses / therapy / anything of the sort.

OP posts:
Beautifulhaiku · 23/03/2026 17:10

mothersdayq · 15/03/2026 12:41

@AbzMoz
Thanks, I do see the point about him needing to live it a bit more.

My question is more how when his default response tends to be panic. Even at home he gets quite flustered by normal kid stuff. For example if the 4yo suddenly changes her mind about something small (banana cut / not cut etc) he gets quite stressed about it.

And if the baby is crying during something normal like a nappy change he’ll come into the room asking “are you alright, are you alright?” (with a suggestion of “MAKE HIM STOP! Why is he crying?”) as if something is wrong, when it’s just a baby crying for a minute while being changed.

So I’m not against easing him into it at all, I’m just not sure what the “start small” version actually looks like when even ordinary kid chaos seems to overwhelm him a bit.

Why is it your job alone to fix this? He should be coming up with suggestions and trying different things, beyond 'I will only look after the baby if you somehow ensure it doesn't cry', and 'I will only look after the child if they are on best behaviour'. Really not sure how you've put up with this for so long to be honest.

'And if the baby is crying during something normal like a nappy change he’ll come into the room asking “are you alright, are you alright?”' - This infuriates me just to read it - how do you respond in the moment?

If he truly has anxiety then it's his responsibility to seek help for that. Has he looked into this at all?

Jellybunny98 · 23/03/2026 17:05

Beautifulhaiku · 23/03/2026 17:04

'If you don't like how I am, you can leave" - wow. This, and some of your other responses, make it sound much more like a 'partner who isn't willing to put in any effort on his side to make things better' issue than a 'dad who find parenting stressful' issue. With the latter you could work together as a team to improve things, but it doesn't sound like he's willing to do this. Has he always had that attitude?

This. Honestly I don’t think parenting and the chaos comes naturally to everyone, it’s something you have to learn and adjust to and work on, if he’s not prepared to work on it then you have to decide if you’re prepared to accept that.

Beautifulhaiku · 23/03/2026 17:04

mothersdayq · 23/03/2026 15:56

@LameBorzoihe gets annoyed if I bring it up. “It’s just who I am” “I struggle with kids / parenting” “it’s difficult for me” “if you don’t like how I am, you can leave”

'If you don't like how I am, you can leave" - wow. This, and some of your other responses, make it sound much more like a 'partner who isn't willing to put in any effort on his side to make things better' issue than a 'dad who find parenting stressful' issue. With the latter you could work together as a team to improve things, but it doesn't sound like he's willing to do this. Has he always had that attitude?

rainbowstardrops · 23/03/2026 16:34

Blimey, the more you write about him, the worse he sounds!
Why on earth has he fathered two children if he doesn’t think he’s cut out for fatherhood?!
Was he this shit when your 4yr old was a baby and toddler?

EatMoreChocolate44 · 23/03/2026 16:31

My OH is similar OP. He makes a stressful situation worse. If one of our kids are kicking off then he huffs and puffs and exasperates the situation (same thing as you - we need to leave this restaurant, why are they behaving like this, telling them off etc). I've no advice. I just keep telling him they are children, they are supposed to be unreasonable and that he's the adult so he should behave like one. He's ok with one on one but he just doesn't have the patience for the more challenging behaviours. I get it, children can really push your buttons and be so unreasonable at times but I'm a primary school teacher so I am used to the madness. They are a bit older now and it's much easier but he still gets in a flap or frustrated with them when they misbehave. He does the school run with them too which I just love hearing about 😂🙈.

Hurryandwait · 23/03/2026 16:29

Oooh my dh was quite a lot like this - the constant worrying about what other people think, them making too much noise.

i’d do a few things: set up time for yourself to relax by using some childcare or gym with crèche in the week. Acknowledge with your dh this is needed because he finds it too hard to take them both out.

Have a plan where he takes one child out at a time until he gets used to that, and the other child gets
some focused time with you. It may then be that he can do both as he’s more used to each individual child, over time.

get dh to do more practical things he’s good at.

my dh is a great dad to older children, good with teens, he really couldn’t deal with the unpredictability of two children.

ginasevern · 23/03/2026 16:28

@mothersdayq

Like a lot of men, he's allergic to fatherhood. Did he actually want kids?

Toastersandkettles · 23/03/2026 16:20

Me and DH are both a bit flappy and anxious people. We're not bad parents or people, we just struggle with the thought of something going wrong. When the DCs were little we would do tiny things, such as walk to the end of the road to post a letter, go for a walk around the block and get the DCs to take photos of interesting bugs/leaves/birds, or make a short list of what we needed for lunch and go to the shops were DC could cross things off.

I was a SAHM with 3 under 4 and managed perfectly well doing things like that. I used to find far away, all day excursions horrendous.

CombatBarbie · 23/03/2026 16:15

mothersdayq · 23/03/2026 15:56

@LameBorzoihe gets annoyed if I bring it up. “It’s just who I am” “I struggle with kids / parenting” “it’s difficult for me” “if you don’t like how I am, you can leave”

What would he do if you were hospitalised for appendicitis or whatever....

He sounds like a complete wet lettuce and that would give me rhe ick.

HawthornFairy · 23/03/2026 16:14

“If you don’t like how I am you can leave”

How manipulative!!!

He chose to have these children, he is choosing to stay in the family, so he doesn’t get to pick and choose the easiest bits of parenting. What if you did the same for goodness sake?!?!
Don’t pander to it, keep sending him out in smaller trios with one or both and ignore the martyr when he complains when he gets back.

Does he do a fair amount of bath times? Getting up in the early hours? Nappy changes? Bedtimes?

Again, he chose to have kids.
Tell him how deeply unattractive his behaviour is.

Anon501178 · 23/03/2026 16:13

What was his own parenting experience like? Sounds like he is being triggered by the crying and other behaviours of your children and might need therapy for his anxieties around that.
Until he has had support then I doubt he will change alot if eldest is already 4 and he isn't finding it easier.
Definitely needs sorting though- not fair on you and he does need to be able to step up and take responsibility as a parent.

TheRealMagic · 23/03/2026 16:08

mothersdayq · 23/03/2026 15:56

@LameBorzoihe gets annoyed if I bring it up. “It’s just who I am” “I struggle with kids / parenting” “it’s difficult for me” “if you don’t like how I am, you can leave”

“if you don’t like how I am, you can leave”

This is very much not a normal response. He seems to entirely lack empathy for you.

mothersdayq · 23/03/2026 16:02

@Scarydinosaursit is absolutely catastrophic if people are looking. I’m the opposite in that I truly do not care if people are looking, I am very difficult to embarrass. He says I’m just “socially retarded” because I don’t care if people look, I’ve suggested to a fellow plane passenger that he should look into saving up for a private jet and avoid holidays until he’s done it because he sighed repeatedly and dramatically at my child.

OP posts:
Jellybunny98 · 23/03/2026 16:00

I honestly think, if he is otherwise good, that this comes down to just not being used to it. We have a 2 year old and a baby, not much phases me! I’m on maternity leave currently so with both babies all day every day and I think I’m just used to the chaos😂 so crying, a tantrum, a spilled drink, a little fall while running at the park, an explosive poo, an unexpected feed etc are just part of my life and really are no drama. I do find that my husband feels much more stressed about those things though, he’s great, but because he works and isn’t at home/out with us all day he isn’t used to it the same way I am. He often says he thinks it is easier to be at home whereas I totally find it easier to be out and about.

Not quite the same because my husband doesn’t make a drama of it and he really is an equal parent when he is here but I can see him getting a bit stressed when there is a hiccup!

Just saw your latest post though, I don’t think the “if you don’t like how I am you can leave” is fair. If he doesn’t want to work at it and is prepared to be left over it then… don’t let the door hit him on his way out.

mothersdayq · 23/03/2026 15:56

@LameBorzoihe gets annoyed if I bring it up. “It’s just who I am” “I struggle with kids / parenting” “it’s difficult for me” “if you don’t like how I am, you can leave”

OP posts: