Nigel Farage behaviour during talk about Dunblane shooting

I don't have a 5 year old child so I didn't open any can of worms.

There are probably Reform members who regard laws against DV as "woke" and think we should go back to the days when it was ok to beat your wife, as long as you didn't use a stick that was thicker than your thumb.

@LakieLady "Farmers might also have grounds to keep a handgun, I guess."

See info from HSA (Humane Slaughter Association) (My italics)

"In the UK, some handguns are exempt from the general ban on their ownership brought in under the Firearms (Amendment) Act 1997. An exemption is granted provided the guns are used solely for the humane destruction of animals and that this purpose is clearly stated on the individual’s Firearm Certificate. In an effort to reduce the potential for criminal use, some licensing authorities may put pressure on the operator to have the capacity of the magazine or cylinder reduced to one or two shots. The HSA recommends that owners of such weapons hand them in to the local police authority and equip themselves with a purpose-built .32 humane killer. Such a weapon should come supplied with the correct ammunition."

@BiggermommabearWTAF are you on? Your spouting nonsense!
Someone wielding a knife can do far less damage than that same individual could with a gun. Fact.
Being stabbed is shit. Being shot is equally shit. Neither is a nice way to be injured or killed.
But the fact is that in the same period of time an individual with a knife will kill or injure far fewer people than they could with a gun.
It’s not rocket science.

But in addition to that, the number one cause of death in children in the US is by gun.

The damage that Nigel Farage in power would likely be irreversible.

To call it a knee jerk reaction is very disrespectful to the parents of those children who died. It downplays what they did for laws to be changed.

If only one adult in the house has a firearms licence they must ensure the other cannot access them. The keys to access the firearms should be in a place only the licenced individual knows about. My father had a shotgun licence for many years. When the police came round for the inspection, on more than one occasion, they in passing asked my mother where the keys were. Had she known the answer that would have been considered a breech of the licence and would have gone against the renewal.

He is a hideous human regardless of his politics

Agree with this
my DH has a shotgun license (rural worker)
the police check in regularly
he has to show them a secure gun cupboard with ammunition stored elsewhere.
Despite strict licensing and MH checks, he knows of farmers who have sadly taken their own life with their own guns. They are a rural necessity but agree that controls can’t be strict enough. I think it’s testament to good gun control that Dunblane hasn’t had a repeat in this country

He was smirking when Jess Phillips read the list of the 100+ women killed by men.

People don’t understand that Reform wants the guns and Equality laws to be revoked

Yet brainwashed people are voting for them

There are sound reasons to own "pointy knives" though. I have a fine collection in the knife block in my kitchen, all regularly used for perfectly legal purposes.
There's already a ban on carrying them in public unless you have a legitimate reason though, eg a chef going from one place of work to another.

Handguns have very few legitimate uses in the UK if you're an ordinary civilian. Off the top of my head, I can only think of vets and people who compete in pistol shooting as a sport. Farmers might also have grounds to keep a handgun, I guess.

Everyone is entitled to an opinion on any politician and any post.

You opened this can of worms by saying that your yr 5 child understood about gun and knife culture and the (not so subtle) differences between people getting stabbed or shot.
I wonder how he got that knowledge aged 9/11?

He absolutely isn’t. There is ZERO need for anyone in this country to own a privately held hand gun. I’m amazed anyone on here can think this ban was excessive. I also think the term knee jerk is very patronising to all those involved in the Snowdrop campaign who are my heroes . No school shootings since tells you all you need to know.I don’t think that the criteria for firearms licences can ever be too stringent either. Farage is an absolute prick of the highest order and immensely disrespectful. Those parents are worth a billion of him.

Exactly what I was trying to say.
If I had to go against someone who had a knife or a gun, I would rather the person with a knife. That does not mean I would like to go get stabbed, it means I would be more likely to be able to defend my self, run or fight the person with a knife, the person with a gun, can shoot me from a distance and there would be little defence. I think 'biggermommabear' is just being deliberately goady trying to twist words to get a reaction

It’s not trying to ‘prove’ anything. It’s a discussion, on a chat forum, about the public behaviour of a public figure. If you have any issues with the public behaviour of other public figures you are of course free to start a discussion about them, too.

Goes without saying.

But as the other poster said fewer would have died. More people can be killed, quicker with a gun. Plus there is a school of thought where guns somewhat detach a killer from their actions, whereas a knife is upclose and harder to do.

I would hate the UK to have lax gun laws.

Id obviously hope no-one got shot or stabbed but in the real world, there will always be some violent people, but I'd rather they didn't have access to more dangerous weapons. I think the point I was making was fairly obvious. I'm happy to live in a country you can't pop to a local grocery store and pick up an ak-47. Knives have normal uses and you can't ban every sharp object in reality but you can ban the sale of guns and grenades to the general public

Same with my parents.
They were nice normal people that shot for a hobby and not because they had weird power fantasies about being able to take people down. Hence they were horrified by the tragedy and understood the need for new legislation.

Deliberate goading now.

If you want to champion the piece of shit that is Farage, of course you can. Just accept that others regard him and his behaviour as utterly reprehensible.

Zombie knives have been banned

https://www.gov.uk/government/news/zombie-style-knives

You're not wrong.

Hes utterly vile

Agree.

So you're OK with people dying but not the method?

Riiight .

So your Yr 5 knows about gun culture and knives do they? Hmmmm ?