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AIBU to think parenting advice just doesn’t work?

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jolonger · 14/03/2026 09:22

AIBU to think parenting advice just doesn’t work? Or do I have particularly obtuse kids?

Apparently for my stubborn and defiant two year old I should offer choices. This always leads to a prolonged drama with wanting the red socks then the blue then the red then the tantrum anyway when you’ve put the ‘wrong’ socks on. Or just NO SOCKS.

When he is having a tantrum I should verbalise his frustration ‘you’re angry I took you away from the swing’ but when he’s furious if I say anything it gets him more and more worked up. Wait until he’s calm then so I do it goes silent then if I speak again raging starts.

It makes me feel like I’m doing a terrible job and my kids are broken somehow!

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Catza · 14/03/2026 11:38

IrishSelkie · 14/03/2026 09:46

Effective at what? Frightening your child into silence and submission?
Screaming your head off is terrible parenting with seriously bad long term consequences. You need to try not to do that.

If screaming your head off at a child becomes a habit, it would be categorised as verbal abuse.

I agree with this. Besides, they will very quickly become immune to it and/or, worse, learnt that this is an acceptable way to react to any sort of conflict and you will "enjoy" the same behaviour from them when they reach teenage years.

TigTails · 14/03/2026 11:04

IrishSelkie · 14/03/2026 10:56

Spanking is abusive and also illegal in some countries.

Which is why I said you mustn’t do it if it’s against the law. 🙄

jolonger · 14/03/2026 10:56

There were plenty of poorly behaved children when I was at school. My brothers class had four that ended up in reform school!

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IrishSelkie · 14/03/2026 10:56

TigTails · 14/03/2026 10:44

This is out of fashion now but still works when you apply it consistently. Spanking is also NOT abusive when done sparingly (and in places where it’s within the law). It gets the message across.

Edited

Spanking is abusive and also illegal in some countries.

jolonger · 14/03/2026 10:55

Oh ds2 doesn’t give a shit abut a stern face. Neither does / did ds1.

I am slightly peeved as up until this point I thought ds2 was easy but he isn’t, he was just waiting. Also refuses the potty so will be going to university in nappies at this rate. Or jail.

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IrishSelkie · 14/03/2026 10:54

Dweetfidilove · 14/03/2026 10:42

Absolutely!

My family raised reasonably adjusted human beings, so I tended to follow what was modelled around me by my own parents and my older sister who had three children before I started.

I find some folks read so many books, looking for methods, by the time they've finished reading the horse has already bolted. They're frustrated, the children are frustrated, dysregulated and just desperate for some consistent parenting.

The child-led hullabaloo has parents who have no control, children who are terribly behaved and schools that are now behaviour-management centres. Utter madness.

Yes and what do you do if you were abused or neglected as a child and so can’t just copy and paste what your parents did? Not everyone has the privilege you have.

You read books, you ask for advice,

It’s not hullabaloo and not linked to poorly behaved children in school.

Owly11 · 14/03/2026 10:54

Your child is a person. Get to know him and relate with him as he is and as you are. Don't try to manage him, just be in charge. It sounds like you don't want him to be angry - he is allowed to be angry! Be confident and relaxed and if he wants to do something that doesn't matter like not wear socks just let him not wear socks. If he has to wear socks for some reason just tell him he has to wear socks for xyz reason. I think offering choices at this age is too much - choice can be overwhelming and adds in a totally unnecessary layer of pressure. In terms of the anger, no one wants to be told 'you're angry I took you away from the swing' it sounds so patronising and indifferent. When you are angry what do you want from the other person? An apology? An explanation? For the other person to look like they care that you are angry? For them to get a bit angry too? I think trying to relate with someone by using techniques is never going to work, you need to be more real. Remember that you ARE in charge, even if you don't feel like it. He can be angry and you can take him away from the swing. It feels like you think you should be able to take him away from the swing without him being angry about it and that if he gets angry he is a defiant child and you are a poor parent. Not so. You are a good parent and he is a normal 2 year old doing exactly what 2 year olds should do.

CharlotteRumpling · 14/03/2026 10:46

TigTails · 14/03/2026 10:44

This is out of fashion now but still works when you apply it consistently. Spanking is also NOT abusive when done sparingly (and in places where it’s within the law). It gets the message across.

Edited

I don't believe in spanking. And I come from a culture where kids are spanked.
Firm voice and few choices worked for me.

TigTails · 14/03/2026 10:44

Friendlygingercat · 14/03/2026 10:09

My parents just got on with it when my sister and I were young. There were no child psychologists. TV pudits or do-gooders on social media. If we played up we got a smack across the legs and/or sent to bed. None of this gentle parenting and helecoptering around. Children were not allowed to rule the house, interrupt adults and were taught respect for authority figures and parents.

This is out of fashion now but still works when you apply it consistently. Spanking is also NOT abusive when done sparingly (and in places where it’s within the law). It gets the message across.

Dweetfidilove · 14/03/2026 10:42

Screamingabdabz · 14/03/2026 09:57

In a loving busy family a bit of stern face and raised voice at pinch points is sometimes the most effective thing to convey the urgency of needing to get out the door of needing to get them to focus. I don’t mean as a first pass, but if you’ve given them several lovely warnings and time checks and they’re still dilly dallying, a bit of shouty mum is what they need.

But child-led parenting advice has made everyone into ridiculous hippy dippy negotiators “…I know you’re having big feelings right now…” bollocks. I think this is one of the main reasons for the growing mental health crisis in children.

It’s not a democracy. Parents need to establish a benign dictatorship and strictly uphold boundaries. Especially when children are tiny. They need that safety even if they don’t like it sometimes. As they get to teenagers you can flip the model depending on how sensible and trustworthy they are.

Shouty (but otherwise loving) mums get shit done and their kids easily know what the score is.

Absolutely!

My family raised reasonably adjusted human beings, so I tended to follow what was modelled around me by my own parents and my older sister who had three children before I started.

I find some folks read so many books, looking for methods, by the time they've finished reading the horse has already bolted. They're frustrated, the children are frustrated, dysregulated and just desperate for some consistent parenting.

The child-led hullabaloo has parents who have no control, children who are terribly behaved and schools that are now behaviour-management centres. Utter madness.

Fearfulsaints · 14/03/2026 10:41

Choices increase anxiety in some children. They prefer the security of an adult in charge.

They can help with other types of children.

Validating emotions doesnt stop the emotion being expressed. Im probably explaining it badly. Its a slow process to go from knowing what an emotion is to regulating that emotion. At that age you are just labeling the emotion really so they know what it is. You probably dont need acknowledge the reason they feel angry. Just say 'you are angry' then distract him asap not expecting him to go 'oh, 'im angry I need to do x or y to not feel angry'. Some adults havent even got there yet! He might already know he feels angry so be thinking why the eff is she pointing that out.

the other part of that is when you are angry you are supposed to model how to regulate when you are feeling angry. So you might go gosh im so angry my body feels hot and tight, I am going to do ten star jumps and have a cup of tea till I feel better and can solve this problem.

mikado1 · 14/03/2026 10:33

I don't mean you're not confident but you're not confident in this advice which isn't working, understandably.

jolonger · 14/03/2026 10:32

Silvertulips · 14/03/2026 10:27

He seems worried about making the wrong choice

Socks are just socks - I have seen some parents remove ‘wrong socks’ as they don’t match or are fluffy socks instead of thin socks or whatever - don’t give him choices of one choices is the wrong one - he won’t want to get it wrong - kids are programmed to please their parents

It isn’t about socks. It’s about trying to hold things up, I guess.

This morning we’ve had screams because he wanted a card in the Yoto player and I put it in, he wanted a drink and I gave him a drink, he hit me and clawed my face yesterday evening because he wanted to go outside and dad put his shoes on (I will say in fairness he was very tired at that point) and then he found a new pack of socks I’d picked up for him from Sainsbury’s.

It does bring back memories, when ds1 was the same age I bought SEVEN packs of socks from a supermarket as they were transport ones and he’d only wear the ones with fire engines on, so … I’ve made myself laugh; I’d forgotten about that 😂

It does pass eventually he’ll hopefully resemble a semi reasonable human around this time next year.

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mikado1 · 14/03/2026 10:30

jolonger · 14/03/2026 10:22

Well, yes, I’m sure, but in fairness ChatGPT, CBeebies parenting website, that How To Talk book that seems very popular on here all say that validating the feelings works!

In our case the validation can’t be heard above desperate screams (mine or his unsure …)

Same here for validating unless they at a later age were complaining and I agreed that seemed really annoying but other times I'd try it and he'd be mad, probably thinking shut up I don't want to hear this 😀
So it doesn't work stop doing it. Just get through as the person in charge. Be the hulk, as Vannesa dePointe says. I like her too. Visualise yourself as the strong leader, unbothered and confident in yourself. I think your ds is sensing your uncertainty

jolonger · 14/03/2026 10:28

I’m not feeling unsure - I’m very confident indeed it doesn’t work 😂 I’m wondering if others found this and the parenting books are suggesting parenting a fictitious and cooperative toddler or whether mine is just broken.

@Bumblingbee92 it isn’t about the socks. It was the socks this morning, tomorrow it could be the wrong drinks bottle or shoes or anything really. It’s nothing to do with socks. I do understand there must be a level of frustration for him, I honestly do, but sometimes I do have to live my life and it can’t be about his feelings about socks, ie I can’t sit around and wait for him to decide the socks (or shoes, or whether he wants his hat or not.)

It’s exhausting and thankless. I hate this stage!

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CharlotteRumpling · 14/03/2026 10:28

jolonger · 14/03/2026 10:22

Well, yes, I’m sure, but in fairness ChatGPT, CBeebies parenting website, that How To Talk book that seems very popular on here all say that validating the feelings works!

In our case the validation can’t be heard above desperate screams (mine or his unsure …)

I couldnt be arsed with validating their feelings at age two. Maybe offer only one colour of sock. Ignore the screaming or walk away ( not far).

Silvertulips · 14/03/2026 10:27

He seems worried about making the wrong choice

Socks are just socks - I have seen some parents remove ‘wrong socks’ as they don’t match or are fluffy socks instead of thin socks or whatever - don’t give him choices of one choices is the wrong one - he won’t want to get it wrong - kids are programmed to please their parents

Bumblingbee92 · 14/03/2026 10:25

There’s thousands of bits of parenting advice out there. But like arseholes everyone has parenting advice, regardless if they’ve ever had kids.

Everyone’s situation is different, kids are different and family set ups are different.

One tipit of advice I follow is the louder the child screams the quieter my voice becomes. If I start screaming I’ve already lost the argument/my job as mum is to stay cool - not always easy mind, sometimes I’ve got to take a deep breath. I’ll only become angry/loud with my toddler if she’s doing something dangerous to scare her into compliance.

If there’s a huge sock battle in your house why not try just putting on socks when you arrive at your destination? That way he’s distracted/cannot join in until he’s got his socks and shoes on and mentally it’s away from the current battle field.

mikado1 · 14/03/2026 10:25

I thi j what might be happening is that you're trying this advice but it's not you so you're feeling unsure I'd it and toddler totally sees that so has a field day. If it'd not you don't do it. I am a v touchy feely, gentle (not permissive) and yet no nonsense parent and I never offered a sock choice. The choices bit is more if there's an issue ans then you give A or B. As you say sometimes that's too stressful so you say 'It's hard to make a choice sometimes so I will help you.' Choose the socks and get on with it. He's kicking and holding things up, picking up and go. The house can't wait on him.
Janet Lansbury is goof though you're probably loathe to listen to an more advice but she's got a piece called don't keep a testing toddler hanging and explains well about them pushing buttons etc. Definitely no to the regular screaming. He's tiny and learning and his brain is really not online just yet.

jolonger · 14/03/2026 10:22

CrocsNotDocs · 14/03/2026 10:18

There is no need to constantly scaffold and validate a child’s emotions. I don’t mean dismissing or not allowing their feelings- I mean just getting on with things and moving forward with what you were doing when they are carrying on. You then get where you need to be on time, they get over it and there’s absolutely no wallowing or rehashing.

Well, yes, I’m sure, but in fairness ChatGPT, CBeebies parenting website, that How To Talk book that seems very popular on here all say that validating the feelings works!

In our case the validation can’t be heard above desperate screams (mine or his unsure …)

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Wynter25 · 14/03/2026 10:22

YANBUX

CrocsNotDocs · 14/03/2026 10:18

There is no need to constantly scaffold and validate a child’s emotions. I don’t mean dismissing or not allowing their feelings- I mean just getting on with things and moving forward with what you were doing when they are carrying on. You then get where you need to be on time, they get over it and there’s absolutely no wallowing or rehashing.

jolonger · 14/03/2026 10:17

OneTealTurtle · 14/03/2026 10:04

You will always get tantrums, but you will have more tantrums when you are not consistent.

They “listen” to you when you scream because you have literally taught them to ignore you until you scream. You’ve taught hem that your words mean absolutely nothing until you scream.

Got it. 100% my fault. Even though I lost it for the very first time this morning after weeks of this behaviour. Still my fault. Sure it is.

@CharlotteRumpling unfortunately not.

The verbalising feelings and offering choices doesn’t work for sure 😂

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rfgtc43c4 · 14/03/2026 10:16

Depend on the advice. Better to rely on your instincts.

Boomer55 · 14/03/2026 10:12

jolonger · 14/03/2026 10:03

I am getting tantrums because of me, is it, it’s nothing to do with the age.

I’ve really noticed as I’ve been consistent and calm etc and it’s just got worse then this morning I’m at my limit and I can’t take another prolonged battle over socks and I lose my temper and … voila, compliance.

I don’t know. I probably am doing a crap job though otherwise it probably would work … I am doing a crap job, the things I should be doing don’t work so I’m obviously doing them wrong but there’s nothing to explain how I’m doing them wrong.

Two year olds can be awful little tyrants. Child behaviour books don’t work, because they can’t read. 😂

Just press on, follow your instincts, try to kerp calm, be consistent, and hold onto the thought that this stage passes. 😊

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