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AIBU to question praying and sleeping in the library kids area?

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sunshine240778474 · 13/03/2026 20:12

Yesterday I took the kids to the local library (Inverness, scotland). The local library has a kids area. The kids area has a nice artificial grass mat for the kids to sit and read their books on.

When I entered the library there was a man who had folded the kids mat over so he could kneel on the floor and pray to Allah.

Therefore this prevented the kids from sitting on the mat and reading their books.
The man was praying for a while.

I don't have a problem with someone praying if that's what they want to do.

Is it appropriate to be doing it in the kids area in a local library?

Also, there was a woman curled up in the corner of the library sleeping. This was also in the kids area.

I've seen people sleeping in the library on a few occasions now. I've never seen it in the kids' area.

Ofcourse, I feel sorry for her if she's tired, but again is it appropriate to be using the local library, especially the kids area, as a shelter?

I left the library, and told the staff politely, I didn't find it kid friendly.

Was I being unreasonable?

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Womaninhouse17 · 14/03/2026 07:03

Birdsongisangry · 13/03/2026 22:44

Did I miss the part that the library reserved the space as his personal prayer room or where the man told OP to leave, or did you make it up?
Ordinarily prayers would be done in a more private space, if someone for whatever reason felt the need to pray in an open public area then they would be aware of the public being around them. Though given the OP was there at a time that the vast majority of children would have been at nursery or school it might have seemed the least in demand space at the time.

As I said I'm not religious but if you object to a few minutes of personal reflection and thanks, which is what praying is, I think that says a lot about you as a person.

I think some religious people would object strongly to your description of prayer.

UniquePinkSwan · 14/03/2026 06:56

tonyhawks23 · 13/03/2026 20:29

I don't get why it's inappropriate?what's wrong with prayers and rest?

Really? Keep it private and I say that for all religions

FrodisCapering · 14/03/2026 06:53

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Sartre · 14/03/2026 06:51

There should be a specific prayer room rather than using the kids general area. It won’t even be peaceful for the guy with kids potentially running all over the place. As for the woman sleeping in the corner, that’s just a bit fucking weird! Sounds like a bit of a rough area…

Isittimeformynapyet · 14/03/2026 06:50

sunshine240778474 · 13/03/2026 20:47

@Creepybookworm most occasions I have went into this library there has been people sleeping. Without sounding judgemental a lot of them look like drug users. Again, I feel sorry for anyone who doesn't have somewhere to sleep, but the library isn't a shelter. The health visitor encourages mums to take their children to the library for learning. I felt more like a shelter then a library. I don't feel safe. Again the body odour was horrendous. People sleeping with their shoes and socks off.

Again the body odour was horrendous

Again? That's the first time you've mentioned body odour.

Isittimeformynapyet · 14/03/2026 06:45

tonyhawks23 · 13/03/2026 20:29

I don't get why it's inappropriate?what's wrong with prayers and rest?

Don't be obtuse.

hazelnutvanillalatte · 14/03/2026 06:41

saveforthat · 13/03/2026 22:26

You are absolutely not being unreasonable op and it's totally unacceptable for anyone to pray in the children's area. Praying loudly is happening in other inappropriate situations and we are all too Britishly reserved to call it out.
In Bristol City Council call to prayer was sang out at public council meeting. This now happens at many English councils as many have Muslim mayors

I called 101 because there was a car with a blacked out number plate driving through our area with a man singing a call to prayer through a megaphone at around 5am. He did it on a few different days. Involved a lot of shouting. Woke up my children and they were terrified.

People need to start making their minds up on what they actually want and what they feel is acceptable - not just bury their heads in the sand and pretend nothing is happening.

Onmytod24 · 14/03/2026 06:26

This whole thread is ridiculous. In a children’s library adults are simply not allowed unless with children. If library staff dont request they move to the adult section then they’re not capable of doing their job, make a complaint.

Skybunnee · 14/03/2026 06:01

Well if there’s men sleeping in there next time that’ll be ok too??

ForeverLoveCeltic · 14/03/2026 05:59

TY78910 · 13/03/2026 20:33

As long as that would also extend to someone sitting down with their eyes closed whispering their Hail Marys twiddling with their rosemary beads.

It's Rosary beads and they're not "twiddled" with. Ignorant.

Hollyhobbi · 14/03/2026 05:53

Calendulaaria · 14/03/2026 04:58

I agree that the children's area is for children and their parents only

Or their childminders.

Hollyhobbi · 14/03/2026 05:40

marcyhermit · 13/03/2026 21:37

If he wasn't on the mat, couldn't you have just moved it over a bit if your children wanted to sit on it?

He was on the mat!

NorthFaceofthelaundrypile · 14/03/2026 05:36

I’m not sure why the idea of praying to Jesus would be offensive in other countries. You do realise that Muslims see Jesus as the second to last Prophet before Muhammad?

Calendulaaria · 14/03/2026 04:58

I agree that the children's area is for children and their parents only

Wellthisisdifficult · 14/03/2026 04:07

Anonanonay · 14/03/2026 00:01

99% of all argument with people on the left is them pretending not to understand what you are saying.

Oh yes, so far if seen the isial

  1. what ifs…,
  2. everyone is welcome
  3. id use it as an opportunity to teach my kids…
  4. he should be allowed to do whatever he wanted
Wellthisisdifficult · 14/03/2026 03:57

sunshinestar1986 · 14/03/2026 02:58

So, did the man have his children with him?
I struggle to believe that someone would choose the children's area out of the whole library to pray? Couldn't find another corner is it?
Why was he even there?
And a lady sleeping? Did she have her kids with her and she was lying next to them? Taking too much space was she?
Go put it on the local news, homeless woman uses children's library to sleep.

This post just sounds pathetic, very pathetic and pedantic.
Bet you'd complain if people were taking up too much space simply reading too.
Ain't got nothing better to do smh

I’d be wary of any man who specifically chose a kids area in a library for anything other than helping his kids with books tbh

Wellthisisdifficult · 14/03/2026 03:55

tonyhawks23 · 13/03/2026 20:29

I don't get why it's inappropriate?what's wrong with prayers and rest?

Everything when it’s in the middle of a library and preventing kids having full access. He should have found somewhere private like a mosque or home. I suppose I could pop down to the local library in my cloak, draw a circle and triangle on the floor, take my dagger and start summoning demons. I assume that would be fine too, depending which demon I’m going to need specific candles, silver etc so might need a bit of space.

Isthateveryonethen · 14/03/2026 03:55

JaneBoleyn · 13/03/2026 20:23

I think id try to lean on the perspective that anyone walking into a library should be welcomed.

To read!

sunshinestar1986 · 14/03/2026 02:58

sunshine240778474 · 13/03/2026 20:12

Yesterday I took the kids to the local library (Inverness, scotland). The local library has a kids area. The kids area has a nice artificial grass mat for the kids to sit and read their books on.

When I entered the library there was a man who had folded the kids mat over so he could kneel on the floor and pray to Allah.

Therefore this prevented the kids from sitting on the mat and reading their books.
The man was praying for a while.

I don't have a problem with someone praying if that's what they want to do.

Is it appropriate to be doing it in the kids area in a local library?

Also, there was a woman curled up in the corner of the library sleeping. This was also in the kids area.

I've seen people sleeping in the library on a few occasions now. I've never seen it in the kids' area.

Ofcourse, I feel sorry for her if she's tired, but again is it appropriate to be using the local library, especially the kids area, as a shelter?

I left the library, and told the staff politely, I didn't find it kid friendly.

Was I being unreasonable?

So, did the man have his children with him?
I struggle to believe that someone would choose the children's area out of the whole library to pray? Couldn't find another corner is it?
Why was he even there?
And a lady sleeping? Did she have her kids with her and she was lying next to them? Taking too much space was she?
Go put it on the local news, homeless woman uses children's library to sleep.

This post just sounds pathetic, very pathetic and pedantic.
Bet you'd complain if people were taking up too much space simply reading too.
Ain't got nothing better to do smh

askmenow · 14/03/2026 02:51

Unless he was sitting with a child in the children’s area, I’d have told him to get the fuck out!

There’s a time and place for everything and commandeering a children’s library area for praying isn’t on!
Why should we make allowances for everyone else.

Anononony · 14/03/2026 02:43

For all we know he was in the library picking up a book for his child, realised the time and quickly got down to his prayers. Or maybe there were people using the other areas of the library at the time and he felt moving to an empty at the time area was most appropriate/fair to other library users/he felt more comfortable away from others

Assuming he wasn't shooting dirty looks or asking you to leave the space then it didn't really affect your visit, doesn't stop your child looking for a book or you sitting down to read to them. He would have been finished within 10 minutes or so.

Rolling up the mat instead of moving away slightly is a bit odd but 🤷 still can't see it being a huge issue that would warrant writing the library off!

My kid would probably ask what he was doing, and it would be a chance to explain that he's practicing his religion

LBFseBrom · 14/03/2026 02:32

I don't know. It's good for kids to know that people come in all sorts, after a while they won't find such things strange if they encounter them occasionally. It won't happen all the time and, odd though it may seem to many adults, it's not harmful, it makes life interesting.

Idratherhaveafishsupper · 14/03/2026 02:24

tonyhawks23 · 13/03/2026 20:29

I don't get why it's inappropriate?what's wrong with prayers and rest?

There is nothing wrong with prayer and rest in an appropriate / designated area within the building.

The children’s area is for children! End of!

SadSaq · 14/03/2026 01:00

saveforthat · 13/03/2026 22:39

Or go back and start reciting the Lord's prayer on the mat and see if you are welcomed or asked to stop.

Haha that's what I was going to say. Right next to him. And then lots of praying to Jesus. Except @sunshine240778474 had young dcs to supervise. They could maybe take a friend next time in case there's people praying and do this?
I'd definitely complain in writing. Non of this is good or appropriate.

Jane143 · 14/03/2026 00:51

ElizabethsTailor · 13/03/2026 20:42

Inverness library? How odd. The children’s area is enormous. How did one person praying physically prevent children from using it.

I’m trying to imagine an adult praying in this photo or sleeping and it just doesn’t work. It’s a play area. You wouldn’t do it unless trying to be awkward and prove a point. Same as you wouldn’t sleep and pray in Tesco.