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To think a lot of recent nutrition advice seems to overlook protein?

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AlpineAnja · 12/03/2026 23:41

To be up front, I am not a fan of the super high protein trend, and can't be bothered with fads. But I do prefer to follow a balanced diet which doesn't exclude food groups, and of course that's just my own personal opinion! We all react differently to different foods.

But I have noticed recently, after reading/podcasts and watching some video's, that a good amount of experts are suggesting reducing meat for a host of different reasons, and I can understand them all. So there's a good bit of push for us to reduce meat and replace with plant sources (legumes, beans, etc), especially from the people who run the Zoe app. Many of the experts claim to only eat fish twice per week, poultry rarely, and red meat once per month or never.

Wondering what people think of that?

I know women who menstruate need to be careful about iron, which is much less readily available in plant based foods. And older people are supposed to be mindful of getting enough protein.

I am all for working to protect the environment, and have many concerns about the appalling way animals are treated, but apart from going organic (which isn't perfect either), do people think the nutrients in a whole foods plant based diet are enough for the above groups without supplementation? Obviously vegans and veggies are still thriving!

Maybe it's just the stuff I've come across recently, but even though there is a fierce trend for high protein in general, a lot of the health messaging seems to be going the other way, or at least urging us to reduce it.

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canuckup · 13/03/2026 00:59

I do think protein/and or fat makes you feel fuller than just carbs.

So spaghetti with a meaty/especially cream sauce makes me feel fuller than a basic marinara sauce, for example.

Some fat is definitely not to be avoided, it makes you feel full

Thecows · 13/03/2026 00:52

Love Dr Chris

TheLeadbetterLife · 13/03/2026 00:42

AlpineAnja · 13/03/2026 00:31

This reminds me of a fabulous video i saw recently, the chris van tulleken royal institution lecture.
Although not protein related ( his focus was ultra processed foods), a story about a historical infant/child who craved cod liver oil because he lacked vitamin D really struck me - the idea that we intuitively know what our body needs, yet there's too much noise and commercialism in the way. When the child had efficient levels he stopped wanting to consume it.

Wonderful lecture!

I do think there is so much advice now that it creates too much interference.

I also think we are all different. I am great with carbs but sluggish with fats. I do feel better with animal proteins though. I will have to look into pescatarian info, thank you!

That Christmas lectures series was excellent.

I'm the opposite with carbs and fat - carbs make me sluggish and bloated and I gain weight very easily with them. I eat loads of nuts, olive oil and cheese without ill-effects. Plenty of people can feel well and full of energy without eating meat, I'm not one of them.

Bloody love carbs though, more's the pity.

AlpineAnja · 13/03/2026 00:31

This reminds me of a fabulous video i saw recently, the chris van tulleken royal institution lecture.
Although not protein related ( his focus was ultra processed foods), a story about a historical infant/child who craved cod liver oil because he lacked vitamin D really struck me - the idea that we intuitively know what our body needs, yet there's too much noise and commercialism in the way. When the child had efficient levels he stopped wanting to consume it.

Wonderful lecture!

I do think there is so much advice now that it creates too much interference.

I also think we are all different. I am great with carbs but sluggish with fats. I do feel better with animal proteins though. I will have to look into pescatarian info, thank you!

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YourShyLion · 13/03/2026 00:29

I find the complete opposite, everything is protein protein protein!

pokemoan · 13/03/2026 00:26

I think people obsess about protein, saying we should eat loads of it.

Pinkfluffypencilcase · 13/03/2026 00:24

I think that’s to do with amino acid’s. Meat gives you all the essential ones for growth. Whereas I think most plant protein doesn’t.

And amounts in plant is less so you’ll require more. Fish is a good source of protein?

TheLeadbetterLife · 13/03/2026 00:23

I find I need to eat quite a bit of protein to feel really well, and that protein from meat makes me feel better than other sources. I eat meat or fish every day (always free range or organic). That said, I also eat a lot of fibre and vegetables.

I don't eat as much protein as a lot of people say you "need" to these days, though - I once tried to track down any science for this claim that you need 2g per kilo of bodyweight and couldn't find anything. I think it's peddled by the makers of protein powder, because it's impossible to do from food alone (unless you eat upwards of ten eggs a day). PTs and the like repeat the claim until it becomes received wisdom, but no-one ever provides any evidence.

It's the same with hydration - no-one was fussing about dehydration until bottled water became ubiquitous. The human thirst mechanism works fine.

AlpineAnja · 13/03/2026 00:12

It doesn't help that a lot of people say that plant proteins are lesser. I don't know how to find an unbiased source to read up on it. NHS doesn't give specific tips on that. I have a fantasy of becoming pescatarian!

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Pinkfluffypencilcase · 13/03/2026 00:08

I’ve been trying to track and my protein seems very low. It should be 45g for women. Though I’ve also seen around 1g per kg body weight since I’ve been paying attention too. I too do wonder about reducing meat but how to keep protein high. I’m relying on eggs and high protein bagels.

AlpineAnja · 13/03/2026 00:03

I really don't like poultry much, or red meat, so do struggle.

I agree that the messaging could be conflicting, so you have the zoe types almost ignoring it and the rest of the market obsessed with it!
We live in confusing times Grin

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Huckleberries · 12/03/2026 23:58

I find the opposite! Emphasis is always on protein, especially if you are training. Which I am.

It's taking me awhile to work out that I can keep up my workouts without going so overboard on protein - or at least it feels overboard to me.

I know what you mean about the red meat - I will turn into a chicken or an egg at some point! But I've realised I don't need to keep forcing down the protein.

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