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To think a lot of recent nutrition advice seems to overlook protein?

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AlpineAnja · 12/03/2026 23:41

To be up front, I am not a fan of the super high protein trend, and can't be bothered with fads. But I do prefer to follow a balanced diet which doesn't exclude food groups, and of course that's just my own personal opinion! We all react differently to different foods.

But I have noticed recently, after reading/podcasts and watching some video's, that a good amount of experts are suggesting reducing meat for a host of different reasons, and I can understand them all. So there's a good bit of push for us to reduce meat and replace with plant sources (legumes, beans, etc), especially from the people who run the Zoe app. Many of the experts claim to only eat fish twice per week, poultry rarely, and red meat once per month or never.

Wondering what people think of that?

I know women who menstruate need to be careful about iron, which is much less readily available in plant based foods. And older people are supposed to be mindful of getting enough protein.

I am all for working to protect the environment, and have many concerns about the appalling way animals are treated, but apart from going organic (which isn't perfect either), do people think the nutrients in a whole foods plant based diet are enough for the above groups without supplementation? Obviously vegans and veggies are still thriving!

Maybe it's just the stuff I've come across recently, but even though there is a fierce trend for high protein in general, a lot of the health messaging seems to be going the other way, or at least urging us to reduce it.

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SquashedSquashess · 13/03/2026 11:32

The trend for 2026 is “fibre maxing”.

Fibre is obviously important. But the trend annoys me because it’s quite transparently a way for food companies to increase profits on cheap ingredients like beans and pulses.

Lots of salads in the supermarkets are now bean / chickpea based which, whilst delicious and healthy, could do with a protein element. The margins on bean based meals which cost the same as protein based ones will be significantly higher.

HiFalutinFolDeRols · 13/03/2026 11:21

purplescissors · 13/03/2026 06:48

I’d agree with this, as a vegetarian who exercises a lot,

All I’m hearing is protein protein protein. I was shocked when I went to buy yoghurt recently (we normally order online) and a whole fridge was devoted to manufactured protein products! Then there are all the protein powders and bars. Which aren’t recessary for most people and can actually contain some iffy ingredients, but the marketing is making people think that they are. I’d recommend watching the Joe Wicks documentary on protein bars.

The "protein" versions of everything tend to be absolute UPF shite. Also very often they are hardly (if at all) higher in protein than a far less processed standard version! I did some comparisons in Lidl a while ago, they had "high protein" 5 bean chilli sachets that were more expensive, contained less protein, and had more UPF ingredients than the standard sachet of "tomatoey lentils" on the shelf above...

sunsetsites · 13/03/2026 11:19

No, there is a complete over focus on protein.

GloiredeDijon · 13/03/2026 11:18

I am vegetarian, dieting and track everything I eat on nutracheck.

I get my daily protein quota easily through my diet even with a lower daily calorie allowance and often exceed it so there really is no need for meat, fish or poultry to be eaten as protein at all.

I get sick of fashions in foods too. Protein is the latest thing. Not that long ago it was fibre. I can’t wait till it’s sugar!

damelza · 13/03/2026 11:16

I'm an old crone now, but eat (I think) well with the odd treat thrown in. I don't eat much meat at all, rarely in fact, unless someone else cooks it for me!

I have protein powder with my porridge every morning, eat tinned tuna, salmon, cheese, eggs. Don't eat (or like...) chips and roast spuds, but I love mash with lashings of butter. Few veg, never did, lots of fruit though. Plenty of wholemeal (home made mostly) soda bread and butter.

I think the forgotten element in much nutrition advice is adequate intake of fibre. It cleans the gut and helps get rid of toxins (I'd imagine!). So I use milled chia and flax together with a mix of crushed (in batches and frozen) avocado, kiwi, mixed berries (+ protein powder) at breakfast. I do 16/8 and have done for years now.

I have a cream cake and a scone with cream and jam occasionally if I feel like it and good dark choc.

I don't dwell on anything food wise. But I kind of know what works for me. I've stayed the same weight for over 5 years now despite treats and over indulgence in UPF now and then. Bloods all good so far despite lack of veg. And no, I refuse to eat veg, not eating something that has to be forced down my neck Ugh.

DuchessofStaffordshire · 13/03/2026 10:55

Psychosislotus · 13/03/2026 10:46

This! It’s protein protein protein.

I want someone to talk about carbs!

Most of the athletic population have done a U-turn on low carbing, but still maintain a high protein diet. The difference is that they consume their carbs around their workouts, eating them strategically. This is not the same as the general population. Government guidelines re protein intake suggest the minimum in order to survive. I am cutting at the moment and consume 1.5g protein per kilo of mass which equates to 120g per day. This allows me to shed fat and maintain muscle whilst in an overlap calorie deficit. Protein also has a high thermic effect which means that around 30% of protein calories consumed will be lost once digested.

Psychosislotus · 13/03/2026 10:46

Huckleberries · 12/03/2026 23:58

I find the opposite! Emphasis is always on protein, especially if you are training. Which I am.

It's taking me awhile to work out that I can keep up my workouts without going so overboard on protein - or at least it feels overboard to me.

I know what you mean about the red meat - I will turn into a chicken or an egg at some point! But I've realised I don't need to keep forcing down the protein.

This! It’s protein protein protein.

I want someone to talk about carbs!

Pinkfluffypencilcase · 13/03/2026 10:45

AmandaBrotzman · 13/03/2026 05:21

45g protein is very low. The NHS guidelines is a minimum amount you should eat to avoid protein deficiency, not for optimum health or muscle maintenance.

This makes sense as my hair is very thin and I’ve been focussing on vit D and iron. When really it’s lifelong low protein.

Dashling · 13/03/2026 07:09

I thought the latest health influencers were pushing fibre now

And about time. So much focus on protein for decades, including diets which restrict your intake of fibre. No wonder bowel cancer rates are through the roof.

Coffeetimes3 · 13/03/2026 06:56

I thought the latest health influencers were pushing fibre now.

Either way, you can get plenty of protein as a veggie, eggs, cheese, yoghurt, tofu, Quorn, beans, pulses are all good sources.

DuchessofStaffordshire · 13/03/2026 06:52

I'm in the middle of a heavy weight training cycle at the moment and have been training for years. At the moment I consume 1.5 g per kilo of body mass of protein a day (sometimes more if hungry). I manage this through consuming a mixture of complete and non-complete protein sources to make sure I am taking on all of the essential amino acids. I do not do this at the expense of a high fibre intake so eat very cleanly. I have a mixed salad of oily fish, eggs, beans and seeds every day for lunch. I have chicken maybe three times a week, tofu or tempeh (soy is a complete protein) a couple of times, red meat and liver once a week. I use a good quality protein powder to supplement my intake.

purplescissors · 13/03/2026 06:48

Giraffemug30 · 13/03/2026 06:30

To be honest I would say there's an excessive focus on protein these days. Most people in the UK are not deficient in protein, and its perfectly possible to get enough protein from a vegetarian diet.

There are complete sources of protein such as tofo, quorn, obviously dairy products. But also pulses/legummes/grains contain plenty and as long as you eat a couple of sources in a day you will easily get all your amino acids

Your body is pretty good at getting what it needs from the food you eat tbh, there's no absolute perfect diet.

I’d agree with this, as a vegetarian who exercises a lot,

All I’m hearing is protein protein protein. I was shocked when I went to buy yoghurt recently (we normally order online) and a whole fridge was devoted to manufactured protein products! Then there are all the protein powders and bars. Which aren’t recessary for most people and can actually contain some iffy ingredients, but the marketing is making people think that they are. I’d recommend watching the Joe Wicks documentary on protein bars.

Giraffemug30 · 13/03/2026 06:30

To be honest I would say there's an excessive focus on protein these days. Most people in the UK are not deficient in protein, and its perfectly possible to get enough protein from a vegetarian diet.

There are complete sources of protein such as tofo, quorn, obviously dairy products. But also pulses/legummes/grains contain plenty and as long as you eat a couple of sources in a day you will easily get all your amino acids

Your body is pretty good at getting what it needs from the food you eat tbh, there's no absolute perfect diet.

Monsterslam · 13/03/2026 06:21

I certainly see the the upf groups often don't care about nutrition which I find fascinating. Cake for breakfast lunch and dinner is fine because it's made with real cream and butter and lashings of jam just like old ma in the 50s.

HiFalutinFolDeRols · 13/03/2026 06:12

All I ever seem to hear is people wanging on about protein this and cottage cheese that tbh.

As a lifelong vegetarian who hates both eggs and milk, I somehow seem to have survived to my 40s (and had healthy pregnancies and babies) without withering or being anaemic.

Quite a lot of the "nutrition advice" out there on social media is just overblown for the sake of a video. There's so much noise that I just tune it out. I CBA with tracking this or calculating that.

AmandaBrotzman · 13/03/2026 05:24

Enrichetta · 13/03/2026 01:33

Well, you need to eat quite large quantities of vegetables, especially soybeans, lentils and peas, to get equivalent amounts of protein. Plus you need to supplement with vitamin B12.

You only need to supplement if you're vegan, not vegetarian

AmandaBrotzman · 13/03/2026 05:23

Tonissister · 13/03/2026 05:18

I found out recently that tinned tuna is about the highest ratio of protein to volume of any food. So just a tiny tin of it mixed with whatever you like and added to a baked potato or bagel thin gives total protein for the day.
I think the second highest is chicken breast which is versatile: curry, casserole, soup, stir fry, wraps etc.

A small can of tuna according to google is 12-14 grams of protein so this isn't true at all. Also protein should be spread across 3 meals not banged all in one go as the body doesn't store it so if you eat it all in one meal you'll excrete much of it.

AmandaBrotzman · 13/03/2026 05:21

Pinkfluffypencilcase · 13/03/2026 00:08

I’ve been trying to track and my protein seems very low. It should be 45g for women. Though I’ve also seen around 1g per kg body weight since I’ve been paying attention too. I too do wonder about reducing meat but how to keep protein high. I’m relying on eggs and high protein bagels.

45g protein is very low. The NHS guidelines is a minimum amount you should eat to avoid protein deficiency, not for optimum health or muscle maintenance.

Tonissister · 13/03/2026 05:18

Pinkfluffypencilcase · 13/03/2026 00:08

I’ve been trying to track and my protein seems very low. It should be 45g for women. Though I’ve also seen around 1g per kg body weight since I’ve been paying attention too. I too do wonder about reducing meat but how to keep protein high. I’m relying on eggs and high protein bagels.

I found out recently that tinned tuna is about the highest ratio of protein to volume of any food. So just a tiny tin of it mixed with whatever you like and added to a baked potato or bagel thin gives total protein for the day.
I think the second highest is chicken breast which is versatile: curry, casserole, soup, stir fry, wraps etc.

Wordsmithery · 13/03/2026 04:57

Pulses are high in protein and excellent for your gut health too - all round goodies. I've been veggie for 30 years and never felt I lack protein or iron. I believe that vegans lack a single amino acid that they should supplement but I can't remember which one.
If you are meat free and pay attention to your diet (i.e. eat a rainbow plate and avoid processed food) you can really thrive. The Roman gladiators - superhumans of their day - were vegan.

AlpineAnja · 13/03/2026 02:43

BollyMolly · 13/03/2026 02:18

promoting the idea of eating less meat is not the same as promoting the idea of eating less protein, so YABU.

Well I was confused by the info that says eat less meat, but also how other sources tell us plant protein is less efficient. I don't think the confusion is unreasonable, exactly.
Of course ideally we eat both, unless we are veggie etc.

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BollyMolly · 13/03/2026 02:18

promoting the idea of eating less meat is not the same as promoting the idea of eating less protein, so YABU.

AlpineAnja · 13/03/2026 02:13

do you mean a hypothetical 'you' here?
I'm an omnivore with a balanced diet. I think i get a lot of B12 Smile

My OP is about how recent advice, such as the Zoe app, seem to prioritise plant foods over animal sources. Even the BHF and NHS suggest reducing meat and animal foods.

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Enrichetta · 13/03/2026 01:33

AlpineAnja · 13/03/2026 00:12

It doesn't help that a lot of people say that plant proteins are lesser. I don't know how to find an unbiased source to read up on it. NHS doesn't give specific tips on that. I have a fantasy of becoming pescatarian!

Well, you need to eat quite large quantities of vegetables, especially soybeans, lentils and peas, to get equivalent amounts of protein. Plus you need to supplement with vitamin B12.

AlpineAnja · 13/03/2026 01:02

I strongly doubt most people eat just carbs though, a balanced diet is best.

I am a pesto woman, god i love my pesto!

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