AIBU to question why taxpayers should fund Ian Huntley’s cremation?

Well, the equivalent checks at the time. He told the admin assistant to not bother with the background checks. I know the murder of Holly and Jessica changed legislation. Holly and Jessica were 18 months older than my eldest DD, cases stay with you when you have children/grandchildren around the same age. I remember this case well.
https://www.theguardian.com/society/2004/mar/12/childrensservices.schools

@PeppyBrickQuoter probably because they aren't notorious. This murder has been about notoriety, not morality or justice. While they may be segregated, they could still be got to. But that's irrelevant to the discussion.

@Starbright102 the DWP pays around £2400 in total towards a funeral. The cost of prisoner funerals are more because there's usually more involved re transportation and possibly storage. Both girls funerals were private, but were a community affair. Details were never published.

He died in the care of the state. The state pays.

In cases like this the crematorium has to be thoroughly cleaned before and after to ensure there is no cross contamination with other remains. The furnace will be out of action for a time which adds to the cost. This is why it will be more than the cheapest available funeral.

FFS!!

Prison or not, there is a body and it is a public health issue. No one person is financially responsible for resolving that issue. There might be money in the deceased’s estate, someone can volunteer to pay, or the state must intervene.

Brady's cremation only happened after a complete circus though. No authority wanted to deal with it so they literally left his body in mortuary storage for months and months, until a court order forced the local council to sort it out. That was a tremendous waste of time and resources.

@PassingStranger how more petty could you be? Show some respect to those who's lives have been turned upside down in pain over this case.
You really should be ashamed of yourself. I'm not even sure why I'm feeding the dragon.

They are victims in this too.

Can you imagine the distress of seeing your son commit awful crimes and then be murdered?

They deserve compassion in the forms of a cremation and compensation.

It's really great to see so much empathy on here.

Because people these days seem to have very insular thinking and zoom in on one part of something and focus on that and never give any thoughts to how it all works, as much as I dont want to put any more on schools maybe more critical thinking needs to be taught because it sure as heck does not seem to reach adults

What exactly is the debate? A persons funeral costs are the responsibility of the estate of the deceased. If the deceased has no assets and the estate has no money then the state picks up the tab for a basic funeral. That applies whether you are in prison, hospital or just at home. I don’t expect many imprisoned for life have much in the way of assets anyway. There is no legal basis for making a relative or parent responsible for the cost of a funeral, and it is ridiculous to suggest that just visiting a prisoner makes you liable for the cost. None of which lessens the vileness of his crimes, but then his mother is not responsible for those either…

Nice try.

But still nonsense.

You haven't come up with any arguments.

Are you asking?

Then yes, it's a waste of time.

You can't murder someone in self defense. That would be manslaughter.

Murder has to be intentional and premeditated.

Zero point going over old ground.
There is a body that needs disposed of government policy allows £3k to do it. So that should cover it.

The Head Master of the school didn't place importance on a DBS for a man who would be working with girls.

How was the headmaster supposed to get a DBS check 10 years before they were introduced?
The CRB system was only 6 months old at that time.

Right 😢.

I would imagine many of the costs will be incurred in keeping the proceedings secret from knuckle draggers who would turn it into a circus.

There is a government fund that covers the basic cost of the cremation or burial for children in England but certainly in the areas where I've worked the funeral directors also seem to go the extra mile for children's funerals and offer all their services free. One of my close friends tragically lost her daughter at a young age and their funeral director would not accept any payment at all. I've heard other families say the same.

I think its more the undertakers generally don't charge rather than anything the government does.

I did not know that even though I lived in Scotland for a while - makes sense though, but Scotland does tend to do common sense more than the rest of the UK please don't come at me about the £££ of it all.

She's probably suffered in ways none of us can imagine.
Worrying about his victims families.
Worrying about him what else was going to happen to him.
Dealing with the finger pointing.

Let her enjoy a bit of compensation.

Children's funerals are usually up to age 16 free well in scotland they are not sure about rest of uk but I think they will

You think that is bad after the trial his mum will get money as her son was murdered it comes after conviction to the family .yes the man was heinous but he was still her child that bond is not easily broken

Arranging the disposal of the body without the resources to pay for security to prevent ghouls and the press from making a nuisance of themselves is too great a burden for ordinary people

Huntley died in prison, let the prison authorities sort it out

DWP have said that the cheapest cost of cremation is is £945.00 and that they could only pay up to £1000.00 for funeral costs, director’s fees, flowers, coffin etc therefore a non criminal leaving no estate would have a £1945 budget rather than £3k budget for child killer.