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To wonder what happens to the maids and nannies etc when people flee Dubai/the Middle East

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morningmists · 12/03/2026 07:42

I saw news stories of lots of pets being left behind, but I can't see any mention of the maids and nannies etc ? I am guessing it wouldn't always be simple to get them to England due to visas etc -so do they get booked on flights back to their homes?

My mum had a nanny growing up and she loved her as much as she loved her mum so I imagine this is a hard separation for some

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ThatCyanCat · 12/03/2026 12:42

Why did they all have maids at all? If they didn't work, why weren't they SAHMs and doing it themselves, if the maids were such a threat? If you aren't working or raising kids or keeping house, what are you doing all day?

Sprawling · 12/03/2026 12:35

HellybellyMelly · 12/03/2026 12:09

@Sprawling people i knew spoke of maids being raped, passports being kept from them. You seem to have a very different view.

Let me be very clear. The stories of sexually predatory foreign housemaids are stuff I used to hear at expat gatherings when a certain type of woman was three sheets to the wind, or on Dubai chat forums. For obvious reasons, these people were not my friends. I didn't go to their houses. I didn't know their maids personally. I have no idea what really went on in their houses. What I'm recounting here is a general attitude towards domestic help that was fairly widespread when I lived in Dubai, and which often included racist stereotypes about which nationalities were 'least trouble'.

I imagine sexual coercion and rape was widespread among domestic staff. Certainly keeping a maid's passport was quite usual.

Plus I think some of the stories I heard circulating (like the ones about 'headache money') were probably in part displaced ways of dealing with the guilt at employing an imported, comparatively powerless underclass, by switching roles and making the maid the predator who was determined to bag herself a rich chap by doing all the things her 'ma'am' did, but better, and eventually replacing her.

Maids got projected onto a lot, it seemed to me, and their very tiny ways of exercising such little power as they had (passing on household gossip to maids of other households while walking the dogs, dressing the children in the clothes they preferred, making the dish the DH once said was better than his wife's version etc etc) were ways of staying sane.

morningmists · 12/03/2026 12:31

Jdnd · 12/03/2026 11:41

They aren't Victorian at all. Very well advanced. The gulf is westernising and modernising and become the hub of the future.

It sounds more dystopian than Victorian I agree.

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WaryCrow · 12/03/2026 12:31

Then don’t expect rescue from the rest of us, nor service from the NHS and other services we fund. Somehow I don’t think you will like that will you?

GnusSitOnCanoes · 12/03/2026 12:28

WaryCrow · 12/03/2026 12:10

This has a brief mention of taxi drivers and lower status servants from Dubai https://www.theguardian.com/world/2026/mar/11/the-shine-has-been-taken-off-dubai-faces-existential-threat-as-foreigners-flee-conflict

So of course our government is going to welcome these servant owners ‘home’ to the country they refused to pay taxes to, at our expense. Fucking hell. And of course Britain has exploitative practices here, it’s called ‘working’ especially in the public sectors. This world is fucked up now thanks to would be serf owners.

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Why would they be paying tax, if they don’t live in the UK? The UK is not the US - tax status isn’t dictated by citizenship. If this bothers you, take it up with the government.

Zimunya · 12/03/2026 12:26

morningmists · 12/03/2026 07:51

I guess if I were their employer I would fund their flight home .

This is exactly the right thing to do :)

GladHedgehog · 12/03/2026 12:25

mumofoneAloneandwell · 12/03/2026 10:40

???

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-38013351

No-one working in dubai is sleeping with their bosses husband, the punishments are insane.

Don't be silly. No one ever believes they're the ones going to fall foul of these laws. The place wouldn't be stuffed full of westerners if they did.

MidnightPatrol · 12/03/2026 12:16

AgentPidge · 12/03/2026 11:11

Most of the Brits who have a maid over there aren't going to have one in the UK, just as the rest of us don't.

Most Brits living in Dubai won’t be leaving permanently, just while the conflict is live.

thestudio · 12/03/2026 12:11

Jrisix · 12/03/2026 08:37

Some work for agencies and will be reassigned, some may go back home, some may move to another country. Some are trafficked and treated appallingly but not all of them. Women from poor countries also have agency and make their own decisions including to live and work abroad.

My nephew has a nanny, she's built multiple properties in the Philippines with her overseas nanny salary and will retire before age 50 as a wealthy woman in her home village.

I despise the weaponising of the concept of agency to justify our rapacious commodifying of economically disempowered women - whether that's nannies who have to leave their own children behind or women who are forced to choose (or just plain old forced) to suck men's dicks or live in poverty.

It's about the most neoliberal thing I can think of.

WaryCrow · 12/03/2026 12:10

This has a brief mention of taxi drivers and lower status servants from Dubai https://www.theguardian.com/world/2026/mar/11/the-shine-has-been-taken-off-dubai-faces-existential-threat-as-foreigners-flee-conflict

So of course our government is going to welcome these servant owners ‘home’ to the country they refused to pay taxes to, at our expense. Fucking hell. And of course Britain has exploitative practices here, it’s called ‘working’ especially in the public sectors. This world is fucked up now thanks to would be serf owners.

‘The shine has been taken off’: Dubai faces existential threat as foreigners flee conflict

Tens of thousands of residents and tourists have left UAE since the US and Israel started bombing Iran two weeks ago, leaving beach bars, malls and hotels eerily empty

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2026/mar/11/the-shine-has-been-taken-off-dubai-faces-existential-threat-as-foreigners-flee-conflict

HellybellyMelly · 12/03/2026 12:09

ThatCyanCat · 12/03/2026 11:38

Can you tell us more about casting spells on the dog?

@Sprawling people i knew spoke of maids being raped, passports being kept from them. You seem to have a very different view.

OlympicWomen · 12/03/2026 12:06

Sprawling · 12/03/2026 12:02

I can’t remember the details.. From memory, some employers thought their maids were doing sort of folk magic rituals from their home countries to make the children and pets prefer them over the mother/wife/employer. It often seemed to centre around food and food prep. A lot of ‘AIBU to be annoyed DH prefers the maid’s cooking’ or annoyance that the dog seemed fonder of the maid and a suspicion she was buying its affection via feeding it type stuff.

Honestly, the whole thing to me seemed to stem from an unvoiced discomfort at having a live-in servant from a different culture in the house when there was also a SAHM feeling usurped by someone doing ‘her job’, especially when that woman often had children of her own in her home country being raised by grandparents. So they found themselves either a sort of live-in ‘double’. It probably explains the DH paranoia too.

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Oh my god, that sounds so messed up. Imagine being so jealous!

Sprawling · 12/03/2026 12:02

ThatCyanCat · 12/03/2026 11:38

Can you tell us more about casting spells on the dog?

I can’t remember the details.. From memory, some employers thought their maids were doing sort of folk magic rituals from their home countries to make the children and pets prefer them over the mother/wife/employer. It often seemed to centre around food and food prep. A lot of ‘AIBU to be annoyed DH prefers the maid’s cooking’ or annoyance that the dog seemed fonder of the maid and a suspicion she was buying its affection via feeding it type stuff.

Honestly, the whole thing to me seemed to stem from an unvoiced discomfort at having a live-in servant from a different culture in the house when there was also a SAHM feeling usurped by someone doing ‘her job’, especially when that woman often had children of her own in her home country being raised by grandparents. So they found themselves either a sort of live-in ‘double’. It probably explains the DH paranoia too.

Mosman2020 · 12/03/2026 11:59

Sooverwork · 12/03/2026 11:53

No sense here . Your sister is presumably a “ she” but husband fucked “ him “. So who did he fuck ?

Oh read it again slowly

ThatCyanCat · 12/03/2026 11:57

Sooverwork · 12/03/2026 11:53

No sense here . Your sister is presumably a “ she” but husband fucked “ him “. So who did he fuck ?

The husband considered her fucking him, the husband, as part of her job. It's pretty clear.

Seedlingsparrow · 12/03/2026 11:55

@Mosman2020
I have a relative who works for the modern slavery unit attached to the Metropolitan police. It is sadly very common. Remember Sir Mo Farah was trafficked to the UK as a child and kept by a woman as a household slave. She has never been charged.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-62123886

Mo Farah

Sir Mo Farah reveals he was trafficked to the UK as a child

The Olympic star says the name Mohamed Farah was given to him by a stranger who flew him to the UK.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-62123886

Sooverwork · 12/03/2026 11:53

Mosman2020 · 12/03/2026 10:31

My sister was a nanny in America. The husband very much considered fucking him as being part of her duties.
Luckily, the wife never found out and not a good place to be homeless.
And they weren’t even rich
The audacity

No sense here . Your sister is presumably a “ she” but husband fucked “ him “. So who did he fuck ?

Jdnd · 12/03/2026 11:47

Foodie68 · 12/03/2026 11:45

I live in the Middle East currently with my family and have a nanny. She is truly part of our family. If we need to leave us to the conflict here we will pay fo a flight for her to return to her home country and will also continue pay her salary in the meantime. Most Nannys have a visa tied to their employer or with a nanny agency like maids cc. It is possible for Nannys to travel to the UK with their family but there are specific visa requirements

Can I ask what country? (And as another note how you deal with July, August in the ME)

Foodie68 · 12/03/2026 11:45

I live in the Middle East currently with my family and have a nanny. She is truly part of our family. If we need to leave us to the conflict here we will pay fo a flight for her to return to her home country and will also continue pay her salary in the meantime. Most Nannys have a visa tied to their employer or with a nanny agency like maids cc. It is possible for Nannys to travel to the UK with their family but there are specific visa requirements

Jdnd · 12/03/2026 11:41

ApplebyArrows · 12/03/2026 11:38

How progressive of them, sounds like they're almost in the Victorian era!

They aren't Victorian at all. Very well advanced. The gulf is westernising and modernising and become the hub of the future.

Mosman2020 · 12/03/2026 11:39

Seedlingsparrow · 12/03/2026 11:09

There are plenty of abusive women in this country too. This is a current news story on the BBC
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/clyve7vn7m7t

Theres one that you know of

ApplebyArrows · 12/03/2026 11:38

Jdnd · 12/03/2026 11:13

I mean I've been reading a lot about how Dubai are trying to improve conditions for migrant workers and reduce exploitation .The Wages Protection System for example. New laws coming into place as well.

How progressive of them, sounds like they're almost in the Victorian era!

ThatCyanCat · 12/03/2026 11:38

Sprawling · 12/03/2026 07:54

I wouldn’t sentimentalise it too much. When I lived there, employers were continually discovering their maid wearing their clothes or in the hot tub or in bed with their husbands or casting spells on the family dog and proudly recounting how they frogmarched her to the airport and watched, arms folded, as she cleared passport control.

Imagine exactly the kind of Mner who comes on here to recount how they ‘stood up for themselves’ when someone challenged them for the buggy space and then the whole bus burst into applause. Only they probably did actually fire the maid.

Can you tell us more about casting spells on the dog?

KimuraTan · 12/03/2026 11:30

When we left we honoured the severance period in terms of pay and our maid always wanted to see Europe in the snow - as our relocation period fell over Christmas we took her with us but had to pay for her flights, visa and put an extra of about £13000 as collateral into a state bank account to ensure she would leave the country after her visa expired or we would have forfeited that money. She then flew home to the Philippines and subsequently moved to Singapore for work.

Jdnd · 12/03/2026 11:13

mumofoneAloneandwell · 12/03/2026 10:58

That's good for them and the small number of influencers who will benefit

But it's naive to think that this law changes anything for working women on visas from poor countries

Put a foot wrong there and suffer the harsh consequences - these maids aren't having affairs for the fun of it

I mean I've been reading a lot about how Dubai are trying to improve conditions for migrant workers and reduce exploitation .The Wages Protection System for example. New laws coming into place as well.

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