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to ask my friend to replace the baby play gym I lent her?

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OldPossumsPracticalCats · 11/03/2026 21:26

My friend asked to borrow my baby’s play gym when my first wasn’t using it anymore. I said that was fine, but I would want it back for a second child. I am now expecting my second soon, so I asked for it back. When it was returned, it looked like it had been really badly treated. The mat is stained, some pieces are missing, the sensory cards are bent or gone, and the guide booklet has gone as well.

It was immaculate when I handed it over; all the parts were there, the fabrics weren’t stained. It was used every day for about seven months by my first, and intermittently until about ten months when my friend asked for it, and I had a refluxy baby who played hard with it, and it’s suitable from newborn so it’s not as if it has lots of tiny parts that are easy to lose.

It sounds petty but I cried when I saw it and wish I hadn’t lent it. Obviously I can’t go back in time but would I be unreasonable to ask for a replacement for the mat for my new baby? She didn’t mention the condition when she dropped it off, just thanked me again for it so I don’t know if she’s just hoping I don’t mention it because she must know that it’s not in remotely the same condition as when I lent it.

OP posts:
NN2020 · 12/03/2026 14:01

Pinnacles · 12/03/2026 13:57

I fear this is too indirect and gives her a massive out because she has definitely lost these parts. So to prepare for the disappointment coming, here's a draft response to her next text:

Hi lovely, I did say I wanted it back for my next one and I lent it in pristine condition. Please can you replace the missing bits (play guide etc) - you can get them here (link to Argos or whatever). Thanks so much.

I would share the invoice you’ll get from Lovevery for the missing bits and ask her to transfer the money.

Pinnacles · 12/03/2026 13:57

OldPossumsPracticalCats · 11/03/2026 23:00

I think I’ll send this tomorrow. I really don’t want to lose the friendship because she’s a really good friend. I wouldn’t have lent it in the first place otherwise.

Hey Friend, thanks for bringing the play gym over. I’ve just opened it to get ready for Baby2 and I think the red bell, the crinkly teething ring, the mirror and sensory cards have been left behind. If HerDH can hand them over to DH on Friday that would be amazing because I don’t know how we would have survived Baby1’s baby days without that red bell 😂 And can I have the play guide back too - I’m so used to running around after Baby1 I’ve forgotten what to do with a newborn!!

I fear this is too indirect and gives her a massive out because she has definitely lost these parts. So to prepare for the disappointment coming, here's a draft response to her next text:

Hi lovely, I did say I wanted it back for my next one and I lent it in pristine condition. Please can you replace the missing bits (play guide etc) - you can get them here (link to Argos or whatever). Thanks so much.

Needspaceforlego · 12/03/2026 13:57

Misnofitness · 12/03/2026 12:52

It could be £1000 but it doesn’t matter. People can spend their money on whatever they want without judgement. I don’t get Mumsnet and the ‘I’m better than you becuase my baby played with a fork’ brigade. (Not saying that is you but there has been a lot of it on this post)

The person I was replying to was thinking it was a £30 baby gym that Op should just replace it and forget about it.

NN2020 · 12/03/2026 13:57

OldPossumsPracticalCats · 12/03/2026 10:04

My baby also liked to play with utensils, jars of chickpeas, saucepans etc. It’s not either/or. I’m also curious why it’s my fault for expecting an item back in roughly the condition it was lent or at least an explanation and apology, rather than my friends fault for not returning several parts of the toys she asked for.

Argh, these replies are so annoying. There is a difference between Lovevery and cheap toys from Amazon/temu full of toxins. I don’t understand how people let their babies chew on toys from Temu for example, yet I don’t comment on it, each to their own.

OP, there’s a love chat option in Lovevery website and they are very helpful. You can tell them which replacement bits you want and they’ll create a manual order.

NN2020 · 12/03/2026 13:46

OldPossumsPracticalCats · 11/03/2026 22:05

It was the Lovevery one. It was a huge splurge for us and grandparents contributed too and we can’t afford it easily. I’ll look up the play guide on Reddit. I’ve looked for parts on Vinted but people tend to sell
it while and I’m not a subscriber so don’t have access to the shop.

There’s a Lovevery Facebook group where people sell items they no longer need. I love all our Lovevery toy and would never lend it until my kids are done with it.

allthingsinmoderation · 12/03/2026 13:44

I think lending anything comes with the risk that damage may occur,particularly when used by babies and children.
It a shame your friend didn't admit the damage and offer to replace it though as that would have been the decent thing to do.
I do think asking for a replacement may have consequences for your friendship though ,as people often take offence at being pulled up on something like this.
If you value the friendship is worth more than the cost of the mat, i would let it go, though i wouldn't lend her anything again!

ShizIsWicked · 12/03/2026 13:42

OldPossumsPracticalCats · 12/03/2026 07:55

I’ve just washed it with huge amounts of Vanish and the stain has faded and I’m hanging it out in (hopefully) the sun today to see if that helps more. I think what’s really bothering me is that she didn’t say anything, and that there are bits missing. If she’d said when she’d handed it over or anytime she’d had it (7 months for someone’s who asked above) that she’s really sorry but Baby grabbed and bit/crumpled a few of the play cards before she could get to them, or that she’d split XYZ on it then I’d have been better with it than discovering it myself.

I can’t find the post now but someone asked why I hadn’t see it at her house, we tend to hang out at mine because it’s easier with a toddler to be with his things than have him in a baby setting which he finds a bit boring now. I’ve seen her use a few pieces out and about and a couple of months ago the stain wasn’t there.

And someone else asked if her house is grubby and it’s always so clean and tidy. I’m the one who is more cluttered and relaxed on cleaning. If you’d asked a mutual friend which of us would stain or lose pieces, I don’t think anyone would pick her. It’s why I trusted her with it and why it’s so surprising.

I feel for you, you have some pretty judgemental responses. I am not sure why people suggesting you should buy the £20 one aren't suggesting that your friend should at least contribute £20 to getting some of this fixed. Your friend would know the value/worth of this particular playmat, so it isn't unreasonable to ask.

If you haven't done it already (I know you did Vanish) give it a soak in vinegar, then wash in Napisan. Not saying your friend is dirty but you need to be sure that there is no mould or germs lingering for your new baby.

trumpisvomitous · 12/03/2026 13:39

My guess is that the borrower in question has some resentment towards the lender and thinks she has ideas above her station.

sparkleghost · 12/03/2026 13:36

I’ve read most of your posts. Since she’s normally a really good friend I suspect she doesn’t really understand Montessori style learning or appreciate how expensive the Lovevery sets are - maybe she might have been more careful if she realised how much you’d spent on it. Fingers crossed she can find some of the bits for you and you get a positive reply to your message! I think you’ve been very diplomatic. It’s not petty to be upset when it has sentimental value to you and was so expensive.

In case you do need replacement bits, you can order them by contacting Lovevery Support and offering to pay. I did this to get a new motor for the play sink (which we bought on Vinted). I’ve also bought and sold lots of individual bits from the play kits on Vinted - there’s definitely lots of other people that do this too, so hopefully some of the bits you need might crop up soon!

Itisatoughone · 12/03/2026 13:34

trumpisvomitous · 12/03/2026 12:35

Very true!
What stands out to me here is that (according to the op) this woman looks after her own stuff very well, her house is always very neat and tidy, and yet she doesn't look after her friend's stuff at all...

Agree

lingmerth · 12/03/2026 13:29

Op you don’t think she lent it to someone else and didn’t check it was complete and clean before she returned it to you?

FormFiller · 12/03/2026 13:22

I hate people who lend things off others.

If you want it that badly, then sell your unwanted stuff on Vinted, ask Grandparents to chip in, and buy it yourself.

But no. You have something I want, and I will borrow it. I will wreck it, and hand it back to you in a tip.

It is selfish and entitled.

ProfessionalPirate · 12/03/2026 13:20

trumpisvomitous · 12/03/2026 13:17

TL:DR
"Stay in your lane, poor person"

I knew I’d get an idiotic comment like this. I bet you didn’t even read past my first sentence.

GrumpyButOk · 12/03/2026 13:20

HappyClapper100 · 12/03/2026 07:52

She can afford a play mat. It's this overpriced thing she might not be able to. Baby won't care and won't be any smarter for it. It's precious nonsense IMO

Why should OP have to buy a new one? Why shouldn't the person who ruined it pay for it?

a222 · 12/03/2026 13:20

I’m so shocked people are blaming you! You did a kind thing and were put on the spot with her asking you, when put in that position you pretty much have to say yes especially when it’s a friend. She knew it was expensive and if she knows she can’t look after things properly she shouldn’t have asked to borrow. Did she make an attempt on the stains at least before returning? Awful she’s not even apologetic about missing items. People saying you shouldn’t have lent it are missing the point completely, you lent it to a friend who you assumed respected you and your belongings. Has she replied?

BudgetBuster · 12/03/2026 13:19

OldPossumsPracticalCats · 12/03/2026 08:39

I just sent it 😬 I‘m hoping that the items will materialise. I decided not to mention the stain because that’s wear and tear and I still
wish she’d mentioned it but it’s what it is. I think when I saw it yesterday I was just really upset by the whole thing but now I’ve had some sleep and time to process, it’s the missing parts that I want back or to be replaced.

Haven't RTFT @OldPossumsPracticalCats but I 100% would expect things back in full pieces. Stains or wear or tear would be annoying but I'd let it go and just be annoyed at myself for giving it out. Although if I had borrowed something and knew I lost pieces or stained it badly I'd definitely contact my friend and say "really sorry, just noticed XYZ, I'll an order a replacement ASAP".

Interested if she messaged you back?

IDontDrinkTea · 12/03/2026 13:19

Baffled by all the people saying a £30 mat does the same thing. Technically, Primark shoes are functional, but if I lent someone Jimmy Choos, I wouldn’t be happy if they were returned trashed and replaced with Primark heels.

movinghomeadvice · 12/03/2026 13:18

Oh my goodness, this is exactly what happened with a 'friend' of mine. I lent her a bunch of stuff (buggy, bassinet etc.) and made it clear that I wanted it back for when I had my second baby.

I was chasing her for MONTHS, until I was 8 months pregnant, which I really hated because I wanted to set up the baby's room with the bassinet in anticipation. I had had a miscarriage before this baby (she knew this), so it was even more important to me.

She finally handed back the stuff in terrible condition, and I cried when I saw the state of it. I decided to never lend out anything ever again. She ended up being an awful friend and she's no longer in my life.

I can't stand people who take advantage of other peoples' kindness.

trumpisvomitous · 12/03/2026 13:17

ProfessionalPirate · 12/03/2026 13:07

I appreciate quality toys, and have a household income of over 250k, but I never thought to spend anything close to £140 on my baby gym! I also never lend anything out unless I can afford to lose it.

I think you have rather strange financial priorities if you are prepared buy an expensive baby toy that by your own admission you can’t really afford, and then lend it out to someone.

your friend was a bit of a cf to put you on the spot asking for it and I don’t blame you for being annoyed. But let’s face it a baby gym is a bit of fabric that babies are going to poo on, be sick on, pull bits off. I think you were a bit daft to buy it in the first place, and even more daft to lend it out.

TL:DR
"Stay in your lane, poor person"

Marmalademorning · 12/03/2026 13:16

Mumtobabyhavoc · 11/03/2026 22:07

She's not a friend and she's a cheeky f for returning it like that. Message a pic saying: What happened? It was like new when I lent it to you. I'll need you to replace it or pay me X in lieu.

This ^ She sounds like a shit friend OP. I can’t believe the amount of responses you are getting advising you to just stay quiet and not say anything for the sake of the ‘friendship’.

No real friend would take advantage of you like this.

HarrietPierce · 12/03/2026 13:12

CallingOnTheMegaphone
"Surely you know what do with the thing if your first kid used it for ages? That probably went in the recycling long ago!"

Why the heck would you put property that was loaned to you in the recycling even if it was "only" the play guide? The OP may have been planning to sell the complete set on after she had finished with it.

Marmalademorning · 12/03/2026 13:11

tinyspiny · 11/03/2026 21:37

It depends if you want to stay friends

Well it sounds like the ‘friend’ who borrowed the play mat isn’t a friend worth keeping.

Misnofitness · 12/03/2026 13:10

TheodoreMortlock · 12/03/2026 12:17

So am I, and my baby's almost a teenager. But I'm persuaded by the number of posters who have coincidentally all noted that this product "grows with your baby." For the price, I'm assuming it would still be suitable for her.

Based on your snarky comment you clearly have forgotten what it’s like to be a first time mum and wanting something nice. So I’m guessing you have never spent any amount of money on your kids - fine, you do you. No stop judging others who have.

Itisatoughone · 12/03/2026 13:08

OldPossumsPracticalCats · 12/03/2026 10:04

My baby also liked to play with utensils, jars of chickpeas, saucepans etc. It’s not either/or. I’m also curious why it’s my fault for expecting an item back in roughly the condition it was lent or at least an explanation and apology, rather than my friends fault for not returning several parts of the toys she asked for.

It's definitely not your fault.

And you are right to expect anyone (especially a friend) to handle things lent to them with care.
Even without you telling her you wanted it for a second child, you could have had various other plans for it. It's yours.

You don't need to defend why you bought it. It's nobody's business.

Going forward, you know she's not one to lend stuff too..and you know that anything you value does not get lent out, irrespective of person. That's the way to damaging relationships with people.

Really sorry, this happened. I wouldn't like it.

ProfessionalPirate · 12/03/2026 13:07

OldPossumsPracticalCats · 12/03/2026 08:32

I don’t care if people don’t want to spend money on toys for children and think that there’s no difference in toys like from Lovevery and whatever’s cheapest in Argos, but it’s surely not a huge stretch that some people do see differences in toys and have different preferences. Personally I don’t care about handbags, to me they’re just a receptacle to haul around my stuff but I don’t act surprised and shocked that other people care. For me, buying my children nice toys that will help them develop and grow with them is something I like to do. I don’t want to have to justify that on this thread.

And even if it were a £5 Temu mat, it’s still not right to mistreat it or hand it back in poor condition with bits missing.

I appreciate quality toys, and have a household income of over 250k, but I never thought to spend anything close to £140 on my baby gym! I also never lend anything out unless I can afford to lose it.

I think you have rather strange financial priorities if you are prepared buy an expensive baby toy that by your own admission you can’t really afford, and then lend it out to someone.

your friend was a bit of a cf to put you on the spot asking for it and I don’t blame you for being annoyed. But let’s face it a baby gym is a bit of fabric that babies are going to poo on, be sick on, pull bits off. I think you were a bit daft to buy it in the first place, and even more daft to lend it out.

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