To feel guilted into being vegan??? AIBU?

The fields full of animals that farmers have right now will be sold on and killed

They won't exist because they won't be bred in the first place

Meat and dairy farming is horrific. There is nothing anyone can say to evidence otherwise. I had zero intention of ever going vegan until I visited a farm.
Knowing this information doesn’t mean you have to go vegan. It’s entirely up to you how you live.

So if someone killed a one year old rabbit. Shot them and skinned them and gutted them they would have a proper Life. Hopping about and then some predator comes along because they want a freebie rather than buy meat in the supermarket

We really are a country of animal haters. I would drop dead before I hurt an animal

I have not RTFT so im not sure if this has been asked already
What do vegan and vegetarian people believe will happen to the fields full of animals we have at the moment?
If they're not bred for the food industry then they won't be scattered around the countryside because farmers cant afford to keep them as pets.

They'll exist in zoos only.

I have no issues with anyone who chooses to be vegan / vegetarian. Im a firm believer in choice.
Personally I do enjoy eating meat but wouldn't force my views on others.

I honestly don’t see the difference between animals in levels of sentience and would much rather the animal lived a “proper life” and then was quickly killed, than a horrible life and then death on a conveyor belt.

My mum has pet rabbits
Anyone who wants to kill a wild rabbit for food is a sociopath

It’s horrific. But you won’t stick to it if you do this on impulse because of guilt.

Make any changes slowly and find out about vegan nutrition and recipes.

I think it more ethical to catch, dispatch, skin and eat a rabbit than to buy factory farmed meat or eggs. But that is kind of the point, it doesn’t really matter what anyone else thinks. If you have a problem with something don’t be part of it, if you don’t then crack on.

That's a disgrace. I'm sorry. No need. No one needs to kill skin and gut rabbits to live. I don't care what you eat but that's too far

You're talking absolute crud. Not every vegan eats avocado. What kind of death did the animal that you bought btw?

Try it, see if you like it. If you like it, stick with it, if you don’t go back to eating meat and dairy.

I have been vegan for 8 years and not experienced any health issues, always fine to give blood etc. It is inconvenient at times, especially on holiday.

The most annoying things are:

The “hilarious” jokes that get even less funny each time they are repeated

People demanding a discussion even if you don’t want one and then thinking/saying you are preaching when they insist you explain your choice.

But I don’t have many of these issues as I don’t go on about it.

Yeah I guess so. I wouldn't watch animal torture videos etc as I like meat and want to enjoy it in moderation without feeling repulsed.
I grew up in an era where there were lots of really gory animals rights posters in all the health food shops/cafes. It certainly put me off at least temporarily.

Why would you ruin your health by going vegan? Meat has everything your body needs and is completely bioavailable unlike plants. Also veganism is bad for the planet. All those out of season fruit and veg need to get here somehow and don’t even start on avocados.

I get my meat from the local farm. I’m doing my bit

You don't think having a go at a vegetarian for not being a vegan and calling them "a hypocrite" is rude? For context, I am vegan and think that any mindful changes that people make to their diet is only a positive thing. Telling someone that they're "a hypocrite" for not going the whole way doesn't makes me feel "uncomfortable" but I do think it's uncalled for - it just adds more fuel to the 'ugh here comes a vegan activist' stereotype and I think encouraging rather than ridiculing someone making any attempt to cut out animal products is more productive. Like I said, it doesn't have to be all or nothing. If that poster really felt the need to take out their anger on someone, doing so to a vegetarian rather than a meat eater felt like a misdirection at best.

I’m in my 50’s and not eaten meat since I was 12 for the reasons you stated. However I grudgingly eat fish for nutritional benefits, so I’m in no way perfect. I do think people should be made aware of how what they eat is killed and the issues surrounding it, to then make an informed choice.

Choose organic, and local if you can. UK welfare isn't perfect but it's higher than, say, buying from Thailand or Brazil. Buy better- welfare standard meat and milk and buy less of it. If you can find it, calf-at-foot milk is better welfare and seems to taste better!
I am plant- based but DH is a raging carnivore and very fussy about where his meat comes from - he won't get a takeaway because their chicken.... Well, best not to ask. So it's possible to have a balance, OP.
I like fish but it's the most unsustainable meat, apparently (but that's another whole, er, kettle of fish).

PS, am sure there's not much market for farmer controlled rabbits, nor much left of them after being shot or controlled by ferrets.

My partners ex is the daughter of a diary farmer. She turned vegan at a young age because she thought the whole industry was cruel. And it's not like her dad mistreated the animals, other than well, the whole industry that is.

But I agree, eat less, eat better.

I would say welfare is going backwards. Intensive farming is on the rise in the UK.

Google intensive farming, or USA style mega farms.

You ignored the truth. Two of us can play at that game.

But they do. The director who made the film vegucated is a vegan campaigner with a massive social media following-lots of things influence people to go and stay vegan

There are vegan activists who do roadshows -offering people vegan food

The fact that places like Aldi and Lidl have a bigger vegan range than they had than even ten years ago shows that the demand is there.

I would admire anyone who thought about going vegan after watching a hard hitting film.

Do you not think it might be helpful to have input from vegans? What’s the point in only talking to meat eaters if you’re wrestling with the rights and wrongs of the meat industry? A variety of views is good I reckon. I’m not a vegan btw.

You could try introducing vegan meals to your current diet and see how it goes OP. Sometimes when you make a start with something, taking the next step is almost a given. I was vegetarian for years and still make loads of the recipes from back then. About half of them are vegan and we eat them regularly. I do eat meat from time to time now and am happy with the balance I have.

YABU for doing the faux wide eyed I must become a vegan now after seeing something horrible thing OP. It's not convincing.

The videos and crap don't work. They don't. In fact, out of all the militant vegans on my SM the only one who I pay attention to is the one who shows the different way. What she eats, how she prepares it and makes it tasty for her family. Products she uses etc.

Not once, has she ever posted some video.

But you aren't thinking of going vegan. The OP is. You still eat meat. I went vegetarian then vegan because I don't want to eat meat.

There's never going to be a more merciful death in an abbatoir ever -even if there were CCTV. There only would be less chance of being abused by staff before dying

Pigs get gassed to death for example at slaughter. They suffer terribly

I agree there should be better welfare standards across the board but we're in 2026 and there aren't