To feel guilted into being vegan??? AIBU?

Humans are omnivores by nature and meat is a natural source of protein in this area.

Animal farming is a way how we get it, because with the current numbers hunting isn't an option.
Reducing the animals to factory is a result of trying to bring the price down.

You can decide to drop meat. Or you can decide to just be a bit more diligent, maybe reduce meat intake and buy better. Vote with your vallet for the better treatment. Free range, local farms, open area grazing, fish, buying full chicken instead of just chicken breast and cooking several meals from it.

UABU to change your diet based on that.

We are biologically omnivores. You can always look out for dairy / meat bred in better conditions.

I have a diet where I don’t mix meat and dairy and it’s MUCH easier to just have veggie meals than prat about with nasty vegan cheese on a burger!

But yes being truly vegan and avoiding all animal fats is tough. Can’t even have certain crisps as they have dairy type powder on them.

I think everyone (who eats/uses animal products) should be aware of what the animals go through.

I'm a meat eater and I'm very aware of the meat and milk industry. I try to make better choices, like local butchers, checking meat is uk slaughter etc, and I dont 'need' meat with every meal.

Ref dairy, reduced demand means less cows, which will ultimately lead to less green spaces. Yes industrial farming is damaging to wildlife, but wildlife has a chance in the margins, it doesn't have a chance on a housing estate.

Bang on! lol!

Factory farming is horrific. I have been vegetarian for almost 50 years because of the cruelty animals suffer. I try my best to be vegan but it is hard especially as I have a family of fussy eaters. I have rescue hens so don't feel guilty about eating their eggs as they are happy chooks. Dairy is harder to avoid - I keep it to a minimum and only buy organic as the welfare standards are higher (though not perfect).

Do the best you can. It is good that you are aware of the issues. What you buy (or don't buy) will help make a difference. Supporting campaign groups like Compassion in World Farming is also well worth doing.

I don't believe you really want to know if 'you're being unreasonable'.

Your diet is your own choice.

What did you think happened to animals when they are turned into burgers? That they were cuddled to death?

It’s a very cruel industry as is dairy farming. But I figure, you’ve gotta either quit it and be vegan, or own it and square it with yourself. I’m the latter, though I don’t eat loads of meat, I accept I’m still part of that industry.

Meet some vegans in 5...4...3.....2.....*and self righteous......'