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This is the height of lazy childcare and I’m so sick of it

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WizardLizard86 · 10/03/2026 11:14

Just back from a church playgroup and at various points it absolutely reeked with small kids needing their nappies changed. I’m not talking babies, I mean toddlers who at some points are actually waddling uncomfortably with full stinky nappies. The minders seem to just do a nappy change en masse before they leave.

Their ‘carers’ are mainly a big group of childminders (no I’m not slagging them all off just these ones!) who just sit having a chat while their charges free roam and they either don’t check or pretend not to notice. An occasional few are parents who are actually sitting right next to their child but still don’t get up to anything about it for ages.

There’s two changing facilities and a box of spare nappies of all sizes and wipes etc so it’s not that. The changing rooms are just off the hall so no one needs to go anywhere else to sort it, and they’re empty most of the time.

I’m a nanny there with toddler twins and triple checked their nappies loudly to make a point but it doesn’t change anything. (We’re not there anymore and they are napping so I’m not slacking off)

It’s so unpleasant for others not to mention gross and uncomfortable for the child, I feel like they’re should be a sign up or something but it just seems such a basic point of childcare it shouldn’t need to be stated.

is it common at other playgroups? I don’t know what the answer is I just wanted a vent. Puts me right off my coffee and hobnob I tell you.

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marcyhermit · 10/03/2026 14:47

Springisnearlyspring · 10/03/2026 14:44

It doesn’t sound like it’s hours in dirty nappy so not a welfare concern just a by product of minding several children.
How would logistics work if it was change on demand? So she needs to change A but B and C need minding too. Taking all 3 into tiny cubicle often isn’t practical and there’s privacy and dignity - she can’t have a 3 yr old stood watching her change another 3 yr olds dirty nappy. I assume the set up is group nr house and they get nappy changed at set times of day at the house.
Not ideal and not pleasant but toddler groups are usually pretty short.

Taking all the children to the toilet together isn't an issue.

Ponderingwindow · 10/03/2026 14:46

No, I never encountered anything like this.

Are the parents of your charge aware of the situation? Do they support their child going to this particular playgroup?

In addition to neglect, it isn’t just an unpleasant environment for the adults, it is unpleasant for the other children. It also speaks to a general level of poor supervision that would not be my choice for an environment for my young child.

marcyhermit · 10/03/2026 14:46

WizardLizard86 · 10/03/2026 14:42

I do have training thank you, with 16 years of experience and some of that spent working in a nursery.

As a nanny Ofsted registration is costly, annoying and has zero benefit to me. I’d only do it if an employer paid for it as they needed it or preferred me to have it. Never been asked so far.

The above suggestion from another poster about speaking to a church volunteer is a good one. I don’t know of you’ve ever had any dealings with Ofsted or experience with them as a body, but they don’t come out to inspect childcarers in any other setting but their home one. They would not come to a church hall playgroup on the off chance of catching a childminder be remiss in nappy changes on a whistleblower’s tip off, Ofsted registered or not.

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They would speak to the childminder though.
If they needed to inspect (eg if they were due an inspection or had other complaints) they would inspect at the setting.

I'm assuming that actually there isn't really an issue which is why you're so reluctant to do anything 🤔

Springisnearlyspring · 10/03/2026 14:44

It doesn’t sound like it’s hours in dirty nappy so not a welfare concern just a by product of minding several children.
How would logistics work if it was change on demand? So she needs to change A but B and C need minding too. Taking all 3 into tiny cubicle often isn’t practical and there’s privacy and dignity - she can’t have a 3 yr old stood watching her change another 3 yr olds dirty nappy. I assume the set up is group nr house and they get nappy changed at set times of day at the house.
Not ideal and not pleasant but toddler groups are usually pretty short.

WizardLizard86 · 10/03/2026 14:42

marcyhermit · 10/03/2026 14:36

Speak to the childminders and possibly inspect?
Why do you think they wouldn't react to a welfare concern?
This is why it is important for all childcare providers to be registered even if you don't see any benefit to yourself - you'd at least have some training and understanding of safeguarding and the regulator's role.

I do have training thank you, with 16 years of experience and some of that spent working in a nursery.

As a nanny Ofsted registration is costly, annoying and has zero benefit to me. I’d only do it if an employer paid for it as they needed it or preferred me to have it. Never been asked so far.

The above suggestion from another poster about speaking to a church volunteer is a good one. I don’t know of you’ve ever had any dealings with Ofsted or experience with them as a body, but they don’t come out to inspect childcarers in any other setting but their home one. They would not come to a church hall playgroup on the off chance of catching a childminder be remiss in nappy changes on a whistleblower’s tip off, Ofsted registered or not.

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marcyhermit · 10/03/2026 14:36

WizardLizard86 · 10/03/2026 14:34

It really doesn’t.

I’m interested to know what action you think Ofsted would be able take about children being left too long in dirty nappies at a playgroup setting open to parents and childcarers?

Speak to the childminders and possibly inspect?
Why do you think they wouldn't react to a welfare concern?
This is why it is important for all childcare providers to be registered even if you don't see any benefit to yourself - you'd at least have some training and understanding of safeguarding and the regulator's role.

Springisnearlyspring · 10/03/2026 14:34

Is there a church volunteer there. Could you have a word about how stinky environment is putting you off coming and it’s great they have so many facilities but people don’t seem aware. Maybe they could say can we ask that nappies are changed promptly as the smell lingers and other groups use the hall.
I’d suspect it’s because minding multiple kids and can’t leave others to change 1.

WizardLizard86 · 10/03/2026 14:34

marcyhermit · 10/03/2026 14:30

You're regularly watching children being neglected but you can't be bothered to do anything about it?
Sounds like you're just as bad as them to be honest.

It really doesn’t.

I’m interested to know what action you think Ofsted would be able take about children being left too long in dirty nappies at a playgroup setting open to parents and childcarers?

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marcyhermit · 10/03/2026 14:30

WizardLizard86 · 10/03/2026 14:26

This has nothing to do with whistleblowing. Most Nannies I know aren’t Ofsted registered but it wouldn’t stop them reporting safeguarding or welfare concerns if appropriate. I don’t really see what use Ofsted would be in this case at all. They’re not going to come and observe the children at a toddler playgroup anonymously to see if they get adequate nappy changes are they?

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You're regularly watching children being neglected but you can't be bothered to do anything about it?
Sounds like you're just as bad as them to be honest.

Hoppinggreen · 10/03/2026 14:29

Many years ago I helped run a Preschool and the CM who came en masse were a bloody nightmare.
They sat around talking to eachother and ignoring the kids, never helped tidy up or volunteered to do anything - it was a charity and to keep costs low everyone took turns to help run things but they refused.
I also saw a few things that gave me minor concerns in how they interacted with the kids, not anything awful just lot of ignoring and minor neglect

WizardLizard86 · 10/03/2026 14:26

marcyhermit · 10/03/2026 14:17

If you were registered you would at least understand your whistleblowing duty when you have welfare concerns about other providers. Children waddling uncomfortably in soiled nappies for long periods of time is surely a welfare issue?

But if actually you think the children are happy and well cared for then I'm not sure what the issue is?

This has nothing to do with whistleblowing. Most Nannies I know aren’t Ofsted registered but it wouldn’t stop them reporting safeguarding or welfare concerns if appropriate. I don’t really see what use Ofsted would be in this case at all. They’re not going to come and observe the children at a toddler playgroup anonymously to see if they get adequate nappy changes are they?

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marcyhermit · 10/03/2026 14:17

WizardLizard86 · 10/03/2026 13:50

No, as a nanny I’m not (I choose not to be, no benefit to me to register) but I don’t think you have to be registered to report. I’m not sure it’s a welfare concern though (it should be, but as they presumably get changed at some point they probably wouldn’t see it as one) it’s just laziness. Oh and definitely it can be a parent thing too, some just don’t seem bothered enough to react straight away.

I do have my own child too but I’d be fairly mortified if someone had had to tell me he was in need of a nappy change.

If you were registered you would at least understand your whistleblowing duty when you have welfare concerns about other providers. Children waddling uncomfortably in soiled nappies for long periods of time is surely a welfare issue?

But if actually you think the children are happy and well cared for then I'm not sure what the issue is?

WhatwillitTake · 10/03/2026 14:00

WizardLizard86 · 10/03/2026 13:54

That’s so sad! Poor baby, and his skin must have suffered too 😔

Yes, I'm not surprised the poor baby had nappy rash a lot. I couldn't believe it, because it was such the opposite of how I cared for my child. I had known this friend for almost a decade, so this was a huge surprise that she would allow this for her daughter. Sadly she cared more about outfits and pretty things than basic needs. She now posts photos of herself and her daughter (now 6) on her whatsapp with filters on both of them, eg false eyes, lipstick etc. We now are very low contact. Seeing somebody you thought you knew parent is really an eye-opener. I guess you never really know somebody.

FordExplorer · 10/03/2026 13:59

I’ve witnessed the exact same thing. Put me off childminders for life. Thank god I never used one with my DC

Ohmygeorgey · 10/03/2026 13:54

I stopped going to the church groups because they are the ones where the parents (not childminders) seem to give absolutely no shits about their child or anyone else for that matter. The amount of kids walking around with globs of snot permanently hanging off their face, and into the toys, snacks etc is enough to make me want to puke. I have toddlers, I know they have endless snot but it doesn't take much to just wipe it away if you are the kind of parent who is actually WITH your child, not just dumping them on the floor and walking off.
And I am also that parent who will happily tell another that their child has done a poo.

WizardLizard86 · 10/03/2026 13:54

WhatwillitTake · 10/03/2026 13:49

I agree, it is the height of neglect leaving babies and small children in dirty nappies.
I remember a friend coming over for a few hours when she had a small baby. She left the baby in a full nappy. I politely offered her a changing mat, I had a toddler at this point who was potty trained, but plenty of baby things, as I was planning another baby at the time.

I held baby and could literally feel wet through the clothing. I offered numerous times, "Are you sure, no trouble for me to get the mat, or you can go in the other room etc." She just wouldn't do it, I was making her cups of tea, bringing her cake/biscuits, and she sat there the whole time. She just kept saying she'd do it when got home.

That’s so sad! Poor baby, and his skin must have suffered too 😔

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TulipsLilacs · 10/03/2026 13:52

Yanbu. That's rubbish. People didn't do that when mine were at toddler groups 15-20 years ago.

WizardLizard86 · 10/03/2026 13:50

marcyhermit · 10/03/2026 13:45

Are you Ofsted registered? If you have a welfare concern you should be reporting it!

No, as a nanny I’m not (I choose not to be, no benefit to me to register) but I don’t think you have to be registered to report. I’m not sure it’s a welfare concern though (it should be, but as they presumably get changed at some point they probably wouldn’t see it as one) it’s just laziness. Oh and definitely it can be a parent thing too, some just don’t seem bothered enough to react straight away.

I do have my own child too but I’d be fairly mortified if someone had had to tell me he was in need of a nappy change.

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WhatwillitTake · 10/03/2026 13:49

I agree, it is the height of neglect leaving babies and small children in dirty nappies.
I remember a friend coming over for a few hours when she had a small baby. She left the baby in a full nappy. I politely offered her a changing mat, I had a toddler at this point who was potty trained, but plenty of baby things, as I was planning another baby at the time.

I held baby and could literally feel wet through the clothing. I offered numerous times, "Are you sure, no trouble for me to get the mat, or you can go in the other room etc." She just wouldn't do it, I was making her cups of tea, bringing her cake/biscuits, and she sat there the whole time. She just kept saying she'd do it when got home.

marcyhermit · 10/03/2026 13:45

Are you Ofsted registered? If you have a welfare concern you should be reporting it!

ReadingCrimeFiction · 10/03/2026 13:45

In my experience, this is not necessarily a childminder thing. It's a certain adults thing. I didn't see a lot of childminders out and about when I was with my toddlers, but I spent plenty of time with other mothers and was always a bit surprised by the notable few who were weirdly relaxed about the poo in the nappy. I have a vague memory of one woman sort of doing a tinkly laugh and saying something like, "Oh yes, Johnny's got another poo but he doesn't mind so I'll just leave it until we leave". Mind boggling to me.

I can assume, the fact that I remember the convo but not the woman is a sign that this is not someone I went on to build or rtain a strong friendship with! Grin

WizardLizard86 · 10/03/2026 13:41

Daisymae55 · 10/03/2026 13:31

From my experience a lot of childminders are like this (not all, I’ve also encountered amazing childminders, but the bulk at playgroups seem to be this way). They sit around planning their nights out while their kids run around in shitty nappies and crashing into things. The amount of times I’ve had to explain how a child injured themselves to a childminder because they were too busy chatting to pay any attention killed any trust if have in them.

Yeah, this is what it’s like- although at some point they go round and take posed pictures of the kids engaging with something to send to the parents, so they probably think they’re well cared for and having a grand old time and being well attended to.

Im not included in the group although a couple of Nannies do seem to be part of it- part of the reason work on my own with kids is so I don’t have to chat shit with adults all day 😂 I think they think I’m really stand offish but at least my charges aren’t going around with shitty bums.

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Daisymae55 · 10/03/2026 13:31

From my experience a lot of childminders are like this (not all, I’ve also encountered amazing childminders, but the bulk at playgroups seem to be this way). They sit around planning their nights out while their kids run around in shitty nappies and crashing into things. The amount of times I’ve had to explain how a child injured themselves to a childminder because they were too busy chatting to pay any attention killed any trust if have in them.

Mosaic80 · 10/03/2026 13:04

Yuck that's horrible! The poor children.

I've never experienced that at baby groups. I did go to one where a mum mentioned she doesn't have a sense of smell so she just checked her toddler's nappy physically really often.

Besafeeatcake · 10/03/2026 13:01

Haha, I thought you were going to say holiday clubs for kids on holiday.

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