This is the height of lazy childcare and I’m so sick of it

Seems to me two obvious problems - both created to help - both ended up totally unhelpful.
One: Forcing women out to work with no incentives to look after children - in fact sthm penalised - which forced children into inadequate expensive childcare - Two: Creating disposable nappies instead of reusable washable ones. I can tell you - you got them out of nappies pretty quickly and we have created a nauseating land fill problem. Yep poor kids and poor mums. Two steps forward four steps back.

I’m so glad to hear this. As a childminder myself and former nanny this is how myself and fellow childminders behave. Perhaps certain childminder stick together.

I know of a family with 3 kids age 4/5 and a 6 year old all are still in nappies day and night.
When asked about it parents said its hard work to potty train, and there not ready either.
There local school wont take then untill they are potty trained.

It's neglect - plain and simple.

These people give childminders a bad name! We're lucky enough to have the most incredible childminder, and she'd never let a child go without a nappy change (or leave them to their own devices while she sits chatting and eating biscuits - but that's a whole other issue!).

They need to be reported higher up as matter of urgency.

It’s sad there are such bad childminders around (although I’m not surprised given my own childhood experience with one).

I have to say though, all the local childminders in my area seem excellent. I take my baby to the library structured story/song sessions and several childminders go there. They sit on the floor and interact with the kids. You can’t really chat during the group but we chat after. They’re really lovely and affectionate to the toddlers they care for. I’ve also noticed that they all know each other and the children they care for, so if one needs to change one of their kids they ask another childminder to mind the rest.

This is concerning to me as a childminder. We have very strict rules here in Northern Ireland and all the Chikdminder’s I know do a wonderful job. Some childminders are unregistered and that’s illegal. The system is different in England .

I agree, although the pampers blue line type aren't right either. It is common sense isn't it? Feed, nappy change. I think these parents honestly don't care, and are neglectful in other areas too.

There is a local childminder my friend uses who talks in the street to neighbours, while the kids are running around, little toddlers; one got right up the street before she noticed. It is frightening.

I’m a childminder and there is definitely this type of childminder but the good ones won’t mix with that type so we get the bad name without earning it. I stopped going to one group as I didn’t want to be associated with them. However 3 times in my life I’ve worked in nursery and every singe one of those experiences had me convinced nursery was worse than a decent childminder. I’ve come across good nurseries too but generally they only suit the kids who demand the attention, the quiet well behaved children don’t get the level of care I feel they would get with a decent childminder.

childcare is such a difficult decision for parents and every setting has strengths and weaknesses that will suit some children and not others.

what I will say though about groups. Is while I watch my charges and keep on top of nappies snotty noses and drinks etc the reason I go to groups is for them to free play/not be adult led. Building independence and social skills in a group doesn’t usually need adult support immediately next to a child. I do the structured activities back at my setting

i have seen parents doing this! YANBU I want to scream because the adults are perfectly comfortable in their presumably dry pants laughing and socialising while the DC are waddling around, skin chaffing, in a loaded nappy.

Also I get angry with the disposable nappy companies for seemingly showing a nappy can hold more and more and encouraging less changes!

This is concerning. I'd be worried that the baby had marks or bruises hence why she didn't want to change it in front of you.

Loads of childminders are like this. I remember it clearly myself.

I’m sorry to hear this. As a childminder and former nanny this is not at all what I have encountered here in Northern Ireland.

This is awful. As a childminder and former nanny I change the children as soon as they have pooed as it is not pleasant for anybody, let alone the child. I change wet nappies every few hours. This is not something that i have come across here in Northern Ireland. Maybe are Chikdminders are better trained as we go through rigours inspections. I would try a different playgroup tbh.

Perhaps the playgroup could put up a sign to say leaving a soiled child is unacceptable for them ,and the group ,.It is a sad world that it's necessary

hmm, whilst I hear what you saying OP, your attitude is just as worrying. My one year old is with a nanny (who Is from a well known nanny school)
She does a number of activities with my child and she has never mentioned this. I really hope she is kind enough to point out a soiled nappy/uncomfortable child to their respective carers and is polite/friendly enough to do this with grace/good manners as my child spends all day with her so hope she is setting a good example. Whilst reporting it (I am not familiar with as we didn’t look into childminders or nurseries) might be the best course long term it doesn’t help the child running around in a soiled nappy short term.

No, no problem at all at the two church groups I attend with my youngest two grandchildren.
Relatively small groups with an equal number of grandparents and parents at both, but no childminders .

It’s revolting. I used to just tell other parents/carers ‘your child has done a poo, you need to change their nappy.’ It always boggled my mind that anyone would let their child wander around with stinking poo against their skin.

Never encountered that and I have been to lots of playgroups with my nanny charges and granddaughter.
Although when I lived in London I reported 2 Nannie’s for lack of care (both horrendous!) and found a fair few childminders were simply horrible to their little ones. Moved outside of London and found most childminders were fantastic in comparison to the London ones.
I’d also stay clear of nurseries as many employ young females who do not care for the children and have high staff turnover.

Sorry should have phrased it as "People didn't do that at the toddler groups I went to 15-20 years ago." There weren't groups of childminders though. Just individual ones

Have to say, I thought the OP dealt with that and the other poster (who is a returning troll I think) like a champ 👍🏻

BTW Pampers, disposable nappies and mostly training between the ages of two and three was perfectly standard for 1996 and 2002.

It’s true that children on the whole trained earlier at one time but you’d have to go further back for that, probably more like forty-fifty years really. And there was a pushback against it, not so much instigated by Pampers as the fact that disposable nappies meant that it was easier for it to be a bit more child led and most children trained easily a few months either side of three.

Now the pendulum is swinging back, mainly because of tabloid claims about classes of children in nappies, but also because of the popularity of Oh Crap on here. To me, frankly it seems like a lot of hard work. I’ve actually used ChatGPT to help me with DDs potty training which was much more helpful and dare I say kind (not to mention realistic.)

Posters who shame parents for not having their children out of nappies age 2 should be trapped in a giant stinky nappy for the rest of the day.

What's your deal? The op is absolutely correct but you seem to be.doggedly going after her??

Sigh

It’s marketing well done by Pampers and the rest of them.