To be fed up that it seems to be expected that female celebs dress risqué while men dont

It’s somewhat convenient that the ‘female empowerment’ look overlaps with what men would like to look at…

These women are highly successful multi millionaire entertainers. If they choose to compete for media coverage by going out in their knickers that’s up to them. Their career, their choice. I will give them enough credit to assume they are perfectly capable of deciding for themselves what they wear. I find it very hard to believe that anyone is dictating Madonna’s clothing choices to her.

And the award for most ironic comment of the day goes to.....

The could actually wear what they want? A novel idea bit maybe they do and dont need other people to speak for them like they are not in the room

Can it be that men are fascinated by women’s bodies. Men’s bodies don’t have the same appeal to women.

It’s naive to sell it as purely female empowerment. It’s no secret that female musicians, actors etc are pressured to use their looks to market their work.

It’s interesting that some of the female actors who are often dressed without acres of flesh/underwear on show are some of the most successful. Success has bought them leverage in choosing how they dress.

Agree. The double think on this is off the scale. Empowerment my arse! The underlying message is that unless you have got your legs on show up to your pants, and your boobs out, you aren't worth looking at, regardless of how talented you are at singing or acting.

It's a crap message to pass on to younger women and just puts even more pressure on them to look perfect.

These women parade around nearly naked to up their public profile, keeping their names and photos very clearly on the front pages. Otherwise tge alternative for them is to slip into obscurity and they fear that the most. So yes, you are being unreasonable inbthe respect that you think it’s expected. It’s not. It’s they themselves driving it, their vanity wouldn’t allow anything else.

as far as im aware who chooses the outfits ?

Maybe now. That was not the case years ago.

Ha ha please no (the balls in a lace cup). Now I've got that Mandelson picture stuck in my head..

Pamela Anderson is bucking the trend.

There was an interview with Corinne Bailey Rae in the Guardian at the weekend and she said she was labelled ‘middle of the road’ because she wasn’t “tits out for the lads”.

I saw Wolf Alice recently and the difference between the female lead singer (body suit, tights, knee high boots) and the male band members (jeans and t shirts) really struck me.

She looked amazing, don’t get me wrong, but I much preferred the vibe at Of monsters and men, where everyone looked comfortably dressed!

I'd rather not see anyone in their pants tbh, I just hate all the bollocks about how women going round half dressed is great, positive, personal choice that is in no way exploitative.

Not all of us need to see male celebrities in their pants.

Same.

I don’t expect it but I’d love it if some of the men turned up with their bodies on show! Yummy.

It will keep happening until successful women say no.

While it is ultimately their choice, they are influenced by societal expectations, the boundaries pushed by those before them, and the designers who have quite a lot of say for certain events etc.

But I agree with @YerMotherWasAHamster if it is all about empowerment, why dont male artists walk the red carpet with their balls precariously balanced inside a lace, see through cup, two sizes too small, because sex sells...

In the animal kingdom isn't it normally the male of the species that does the peacocking to attract a mate 🤔

And it’s usually the males who compete and display for the females, rather than the other way around.

@YerMotherWasAHamster because women aren't visual? Women are more interested in what a person's attributes are other than physical I think, plus it garner attention, sexual attractiveness is still deemed very worthy and powerful, and for a woman that equates to being young and fertile, dressing up in underwear says young and sexy, don't tell Madonna though.

Actually, generally it's the males in the animal kingdom who have the more extreme appearance.

Why is it wrong for women to dress how they want to dress? Whether that involves showing themselves off or covering up, why has there always got to be women trying to bring down other women? Wear what you want to wear, and leave other women to it.

Expected by whom? Themselves? They chose to do it as they want to be seen as “young, hot and sexy”.
You do understand that females making themselves look attractive for male attention is a basic trait in the animal kingdom? Humans are no different and no more advanced than the rest of the animal kingdom in that regard.

I think they are daft to dress that way and to capitulate to the trend - but their body, their choice.

Mostly they look perfectly ridiculous.