To think vapes need consigning to the history books?

They are a harm reduction tool for former smokers. They are many percentage points healthier than cigarettes. The teen issue is a whole other thing.

YANBU, hopefully they'll fall out of fashion as they look really tragic, like a dummy.

Yes, I still vape - but I mix my own liquid, which is 0% nicotine. I enjoy the flavours (not disposable vapes, my own mixed flavours - usually vanilla or lemon tart), plus it gives me something to do with my hands.

Agree with OP. Smokers used to have to go outside but now people are vaping in crowds, pubs at the table, trains, even changing rooms at the bloody gym!

And there’s a whole generations of teens who think smoking is rank and probably would have never tried it, who now vape. It’s sad.

Nicotjne has health negatives and health benefits. It has been found helpful for cognitive abilities like focus, but it does constrict blood vessels. Many people are using slow release nictotine specifically as a biohack!

Former smoker here, from a long line of smokers. A lot of smokers I knew (grandparents, dad, aunts and uncles) lived pretty long lives. My dad is 70, pack a day, and he is still in pretty good condition all things considered. It’s not healthy and chances are he will get lung cancer or die of something smoking related, but we know exactly what smoking does and you can make an informed choice about the risks. The people I know who vape and have been vaping for a few years are in way worse knick than the smokers. I genuinely think it’s going to come out that it’s worse for you. I know most places don’t let you vape inside, but people do. Loads of people do it and people just vape all the time, so they’re probably doing it more than smokers.

I hate vapes. They are the new cigarettes for teens. What started as a form of quitting smoking had become the new demon.

Then they are thrown all over the place. Bin Lorrie’s keep setting on fire because those that bin then don’t realise the shouldn’t go in the actual bin.

Wafts of strawberry cheesecake or candy floss as I walk down the street are frankly no more desired than the waft of weed. Though at least the weed is natural despite pongy.

And while I’m ranting. Parents who seem to forget that you shouldn’t vape in the school playground!! You wouldn’t spark up a fag so why you vaping.

I was asking if she’d actually given up.

Also tar isn’t the only health issue. Nicotine also has negative impacts on health.

Vaping reduces the exposure to tar, which is the killer.

But do you still vape?
Did vapes actually help you give up nicotine addiction or did it just switch from one bad habit to another?

Many people (especially young people) start vaping having never smoked. Vaping is way more addictive than smoking and delivers much higher levels of nicotine.

There’s a lot of dodgy vapes around and a quick Google reveals a lot of fires/explosions caused by vapes. Obviously we don’t yet know the cause of this fire but they have resulted in a considerable number of fires.

I love my vape. It will have to be prised out of my cold, dead hand.
I had a mini stroke
18 months ago. At the time I was advised to stop smoking cigarettes. I knew I would fail, I started aged 12.
I reluctantly took up gaping, I only have tobacco flavour liquid.

I save around £120 a week.

I think instead of just banning “disposable” ones they need to ban ones where you can’t replace the coil because effectively the new “reusable” ones aren’t since the coil wears out shortly after the pods do.

People would still vape but this would cut down on the battery issue.

That or everything with a battery in it now has a mandatory £5 battery disposal tax. That would cut down on the cheap dodgy battery powered things very quickly!

There's lots of evidence that vaping is safer than smoking. When vaping first became popular it was estimated as 90% safer, they reviewed this over a decade and found that figure stilk seemes correct.

Here's the NHS guidance on vaping compared to smoking: https://www.nhs.uk/better-health/quit-smoking/ready-to-quit-smoking/vaping-to-quit-smoking/vaping-myths-and-the-facts/#:~:text=Myth%201:%20Vaping%20is%20just,most%20effective%20stop%20smoking%20aids.

I vape and I think they’re stupid things. I’m grateful not to be stuck on cigarettes.

I do however wonder how this one shop had an incident out of all the millions of vapes lying around in houses, warehouses etc.

something doesn’t sit right with me, I can only assume it was a dodgy knock off vape.

I did say ‘socially’ in my post. As in, from a social point of view.

also, there’s the third, widely know option of not smoking at all. That would avoid the health issues.

Maybe we should all go back to Woodbines!

@ticketwoes so you’d rather they had the long term health problems (you know the lung cancer and death) because you think vaping might be just as bad?

I do understand what you're saying, but I'm on the fence with this one.

I smoked for 18 years and didn't think I'd ever stop. I just didn't want to because I enjoyed it so much. A friend gave me a disposable vape on a night out last year, and I ended up switching to vaping - with the intention of using it as a tool to quit smoking.

Vaped for six months and then switched to nicotine gum. I'm now weaning myself off the gum and will be nicotine free by May. I don't think I'd have even attempted to quit if vaping hadn't been an option. Having vapes (which were easily available) as a stop gap between cigarettes and nicotine gum, eased the transition for me.

And there is no evidence that vaping is any safer than cigarettes.

Stop lying.

If it wasn't for vapes, I'd still be smoking. I'm all for age limitations and restrictions on buying the things, but not an outright ban.

I mean, socially? I would prefer they smoked.

Regarding the individuals health…well, I’m not convinced that vaping is much better. We just don’t have the same length of time as cigarettes to see the effects.

Just had a Google and it appears you approx 30% of people using vapes stop smoking compared to approx 10% of those using patches or gum.

Completely agree.

We need more studies on them! I knew very little about them but initially liked the sweet smell when I walked by someone. Now I realise how toxic (at least) some of them are! I want more information about the second hand inhalation.

And yes, this dreadful fire! Vape shops are popping up everywhere (teen market? Can’t order to home lest parents see?) and to see how the shop was just rows and rows of accelerant? Terrifying.