To think vapes need consigning to the history books?

Exactly. Why people believe that steaming chemicals into the lungs is any safer than smoking them is beyond me. I'm a very heavy smoker and I'm constantly being told I should vape instead. Er no thanks. At least with cigarettes I know what could happen, vapes are even worse I think and it's awful that people who have never smoked in their lives decide to vape. As many pp have said teenagers especially

Only around half of people who vape are former smokers though.

Mumsnet’s answer to everything: ban this, ban that.

I don’t like vapes, or the litter that goes with them (bins are covered in those little labels “remove to use”: it took me a while to work out they come from vapes), but I do think vapes are the lesser of two evils, compared with smoking.

They are like dummies for adults. Get rid.

Or make them available on prescription as a treatment for smoking addicition / harm reduction, rather than available in shops regardless of age restriction. And I say that as someone who vapes.

What do you mean by toxic?

I feel like the people who used them to stop smoking have sacrificed a whole generation that would have never vaped.

I didn’t smoke or vape born in 92, but the generation below me are vaping. They wouldn’t have smoked or vaped if these things didn’t exist.

I think those old school smokers that want to quit need to do it a different way.

They are disgusting things, why do humans need to suck on these things, feel same way about cigarettes. Its weird when you think about it.

I just have to look at vapers and get an immediate ick. Everything about the things is grim, the smell, how they look, the cloud of vile sickly fumes. Gross.

Obviously for those using them as a means to quit smoking they’re a great temporary tool, better than smoking just don’t get addicted to them.

I’m an ex smoker, now I vape. I have had the same vape for over a year and buy refill juice. I feel 100% healthier than I did when I smoked, I’ve not had a cold or a cough for a year. I’m not adding to landfill, the bottles are recyclable.

BUT… I think anything remotely disposable should be banned, I think the sale of them should be age restricted to 21/25+, I think all the stupid flavours should be outlawed immediately (can’t buy a menthol cig but can buy doughnut or Bavarian slice flavour vapes!) and I think all the tacky shops should be closed down. They’re ruining high streets for starters, many of them are covers for money laundering and loads sell cheap dangerous knock offs.

They are a scourge on society but at the same time have definitely helped me and others who were addicted to smoking. The problem is the sheer amount of the shops and their target audience ie kids. Outlaw all the hideous drinks and American style sweets that these shops sell, too.

I know a few people who have never smoked but taken up vaping. How mad is that?
Many of these shops are fronts for money laundering like the barbers and the nail salons. Its about time the authorities cleared them all out

I was a smoker from probably 2000ish until 2014, I was more of a social smoker and could stop and start easy enough. Once the smoking ban came in I became pretty much a seasonal smoker as no way was I standing in the rain and cold for a fag. I then stopped for several years until probably 2022 ish when I tried w vape on a night out. From there I vaped all the time, it curbed my appetite and as it didn’t leave a lingering smell I would vape everywhere; house, car etc. My kids started being more aware and I started to feel really embarrassed by it but it took a bout of Covid for me to stop. I felt so ill for days and had tightness in my chest so the last thing I wanted was to vape. As if made it through nearly a week I decided to keep going and I’m now approaching 6 months vape free. So glad to be off them.

Should be px only for heavy smokers who can't quit. The teenage vaping issue is INSANE (dd1 Im looking at you).

There are reports on social media from an eye witness that there was an overloaded charging plug/extension cable that was on fire. It would then have spread to the vape batteries and beyond.

I am near Glasgow and we are devestated by this and hope that it starts talks about tougher legislation. There have been a number of reports of batteries causing fires in bin lorries etc. Having a shop full off vapes all stored next to each other is not the way to operate and that needs to change.

Me too. I haven’t smoked now for 14 years. The shopkeepers shouldn’t be selling the vapes to kids.

The fact that a historic building is burned don because of a stupid bloody vape shop. Is there anything more 2026?

This thread is about health risks of smoking vs vapes, and that’s valid, but do we really need thousands of knock off vape shops everywhere?

I actually generally agree with you.

But it is very obvious they are safer than breathing in smoke, tar, and thousands of poisons and carcinogens into the lungs.

There is evidence they might not be completely safe, and there might be some issues in the future. But I dont think there is any suggestion they aren't much, much safer than smoking from anywhere. The consensus is they have potential issues, but are certainly vastly safer than smoking.

They were not created to help people give up smoking. They were created to make a lot of money. They were marketed on the ‘it’ll help smokers’ ticket, but anyone with an ounce of understanding of humans knew that before long, loads of people would be using them who would never have smoked cigarettes.

Same technology yes, but often shoddy manufacturing, like some batteries in electric scooters.

This is what they were initially invented for, which is great. What isn't great is that many people (mostly teens) start with vapes and never stop. As long as manufacturers make all the cool and yummy flavours, this will only continue.

Given cancer research back then, I’m pretty confident in my choices. They’ve been around a long time now. I started vaping (or tried my first one) in 2013

I dont like them . Horrible sickly smell..I wiuld rather walk behind a smoker than a vaper and I dont believe they are any safer than fags. They havent been around long enough to find out what long term.damage they can do. Remember in the past they thought smoking tobacco was good for you!!

this one shop had an incident out of all the millions of vapes lying around in houses, warehouses etc.

Having spoken to a fireman recently they get called to fires at landfills regularly caused by binned vapes so not as dramatic as this fire but still dangerous

Vapes are like dummies for adults. And have created a whole new addiction for teens. They are awful things.

I love my vape.