To think vapes need consigning to the history books?

But how is it our problem that some people start vaping without having followed the usage guidelines you just made up?

Would you ban cars because some people are not willing to walk to the grocery store?
Some people are addicted to the gym, would you ban that too?
I've heard of people who are addicted to using a hair dryer, should we all go back to towel dry our hair?

I’m at almost as though the government has lost control isn’t it?

Why would criminals put fentanyl in unlicensed vapes? Well let me think. as you are obviously unable to. How about in an unregulated factory or manufacturing premises those organised crime gangs are also manufacturing synthetic drugs and cross contamination happens. Is that too hyperbolic for you?

Was it Around 10 years ago that smoking became so much rarer among younger age groups?

I work in a building with a lot of people aged 18-23.

They all vape and they’re all totally addicted.

They can’t go half an hour without sneaking back to their lockers for puffs.

The actual smokers are the model of restraint!

Something has badly gone wrong.

While they may have been advocated for this by health professionals, the fact they were developed and are sold by big companies like BAT (British American Tobacco) tells you everything you need to know about why they were invented. They’re designed to be more socially acceptable and to plug the sales gap created by the drop in sales of traditional smoking products. See also - nicotine pouches!

I’ve never been able to smell BO or perfume as far away from someone as I can their vape.

it’s disingenuous to pretend like it’s the same thing.

if you are going to be antisocial, at least own it.

Wow what a load of hyperbole. Why would they put fentanyl in vapes

What’s your point? Many many do

They scan and confiscate any in checked luggage. Vapers are more likely to want to keep them in hand luggage anyway as it’s easier to access them after the flight, or so they can vape once through security if the airport has a smoking area.

And I don't throw my vape in the bin, daily or indeed ever.

Awful, dreadful things. Young kids getting addicted really early. Young kids ending up in hospital due to dodgy, disposable vapes coming from god knows where. We better bloody hope fentanyl doesn’t end up in the illegal ones as then a great swathe of people will be dead.

That's a bit of a generalisation. Why do you think all vapers aren't environmentally aware? I dispose of my vape batteries in the proper way.

They’re not being thrown in your bin though, as most vapers do with their vapes.

“But would they have started smoking instead?”

Who knows, but probably less likely as it’s no longer socially acceptable and the harmful effects are well known, as well being plastered all over the packaging.

An awful low of very illiberal sentiment on here! I do not smoke, nor vape but:

• Vaping is orders of magnitude safer than smoking (as agreed by the NHS and the Royal College of Physicians)
• Negative externalities? Yes, the smell can be irritating if people are inconsiderate, but I was also irritated when someone started eating McDonalds next to me on the bus...
• Where vaping is permitted, rates of smoking fall faster.
• Australia is a fairly horrible example - there's a huge illicit market (no regulation or quality control) and a fair bit of organised crime associated with it

Don't sell them to children. By all means restrict disposables for environmental reasons, but let adults do what they want.

IMO we're way too quick to demand authoritarian bans (which very rarely work) in this country.

It is banned but there are a whole load of unregulated vapes accessible in this country

The vape industry is worth in the region of 40 billion dollars !

I love my vape and id fight you to keep it. If we are going to ban them because lithium batteries can be unpredictable we'll have to also.ban phones, smart watches, laptops, tablets, power tools electric cars the list goes on.

Yes but there’ll maybe the odd person who doesn’t do that. Or do they scan for them in luggage?

If it helps your anxiety, every airline I’ve flown with has the rule that vapes are turned off and in hand luggage

What about the all the kids you see with them who would probably have never had a chance to take up smoking at all?
Also most people dont use them to stop smoking. They just use them so then can still "smoke" in more social settings.

The government massively dropped the ball with vapes. After all the years it took to turn the public against smoking. So stupid

So.. you don't like the smell and its annoying?

I could say the same about walking behind someone with excessive perfume or aftershave, or BO.

Or having to walk past/be in the same space as drunk people (and that can be dangerous for your health, never seen vaping cause someone to hurl abuse or actually attack someone!).

Ban alcohol, drunks are really annoying and sometimes dangerous.

And all the lives/ families that are wrecked through alcohol misuse x

Surely it must be a big risk on aeroplanes? If someone had one in their luggage could it start a fire or was there something else involved in this that triggered it? I’m on holiday at the minute so worried a bit about that.

Dogs are annoying and they smell. Ban them, I say!!