To think vapes need consigning to the history books?

12 years old we’re not picking up cigarettes when vape came out. Cigarettes were about to die a death with the last gen to smoke them. Now it’s reopened again.

Twelve year olds used to take up cigarettes, are vapes worse?

Yes. I’ve quit vaping this week and finding it harder to quit than smoking. I’m 3 days vape free now though! It’s horrible and I was fully convinced it was making me ill all the time. Glad to have got rid.

12 year olds are not using vapes to give up the fags.

Probably? Yeah let’s not bother legislating against it and just cross our fingers and hope for the best.

I didn’t say ALL vapers… but given the mentality of the vapers I have the misfortune to know, I would bet it’s a majority.

Also seen vapes with fonts of the same name as branded food and drink. I pick litter and often see various vapes. One was called Tngo with the font of Tango drink.

Definitely targeting teens. Unicorn Shake? Rainbow candy? Bubblegum? Plus seen teens vaping vapes that change light colour with each draw.

Interestingly on the other side of the coin there are limited health benefits...for some brains

Studies have shown in brains of individuals schizophrenia that nicotine actually has positive cognitive effects on areas like working memory , attention and information processing
Allevation of negative symptoms via less social withdrawal, decreased lack of motivation and blunted emotions
Normalisation of brain activity
Also shows a reduction in medication side effects

All of which contributes to the statistic of 60-90% of individuals with schizophrenia being smokers. And also the sadly increased mortality rate in part due to smoking related deaths.

And unfortunately highly addictive. However they are looking into nicotinic agonists instead (produces the same effect as nicotine but without the additive component). Which not only could be used to treat schizophrenia but also ADHD and Alzheimer's.

Single use vapes were supposed to be banned last June. The manufacturers have found a loophole by putting a USB port in them. I doubt the USB does anything- a dummy.

Plus many vapes are illegal, like e-bikes. A home caught fire a few weeks ago due to an e-bike

if they actually were designed for smokers to give up, why are they in bright colours with sweet flavours? (Which is the complete opposite of how cigarettes are packaged) They are clearly marketed at kids, who weren't smoking in the first place.
My kids both said there were kids vaping in the classrooms at school.

teen DD saw her 30 year old cousin vaping on holiday, she was quite amazed to see an adult vaping, she said she thought it was for year 9s!

vaping looks so silly! My kids are young adults now and they found their peers who took up vaping at school very amusing. And now, proper adults walking around sucking these things just look daft!

I am concerned that anyone can open a vape shop without being trained how to deal with fires (apparently someone used an incorrect extinguisher)
Also the destruction of such old buildings due to vapes is a bit sad.

Perhaps vape shops should be out of town and government controlled.

Yes, they need banning. They’re disgusting in my opinion

People just seem easily irritable these days, but ok. On the flip I'd ban fast food restaurants and ready made meals whilst we are at it. All these fat people plodding around are a much bigger burden on the NHS for starters. To think people actually consider saturated fat and high salt and sugar levels as a treat for their children....and don't get me started on all the fast food litter.

Vaping is illegal here, except by pharmacists who can sell as a quit aid.

What happened is a smoking war. Tobacconists popped up everywhere selling illegal apes & cheap ciggies. Finally, the police have shut them down. Now they've moved to home delivery sales.

The negative is that people have moved back to illegal traditional cigarettes as vapes are obvious. They stink & I have to smell them despite strict laws on where you can smoke as they ignore it.

But I'm still pleased because my DC won't be sold yummy tasting vapes. DS's 13 year old friend was vaping last year. My friend's 20 something kids had taken it up, along with all their friends.

I appreciate they are an alternative for people who want to give up traditional smoking and they are helpful in that respect.

I don't understand the marketing around them. Tobacco products have to be in plain packaging and are hidden away. You have to ask for them at the kiosk.

Vapes are in brightly coloured packaging and heavily visible. They're allowed to be in impulse places to encourage people to pick them up. I know people who've never smoked but they vape now.

Shops are not allowed to promote crisps or chocolate in impulse places because they're bad for health. They're allowed to tempt people with vapes and potentially get them addicted to something where the long term health risks are still as yet unknown. It makes no sense at all.

It’s not happening and probably will never happen.

They should have been licensed only as a medical device for smoking cessation. It’s unbelievable that we’ve allowed a whole new generation to get addicted tobacco through vapes

Scary isn’t it? Let’s not think about it.

Cognitive dissonance at its finest! 🤣

Yeah

I dont know about your local high street but mine goes vape shop, phone shop, Turkish barber, independant newsagent/grocery shop, nail salon, vape shop, Turkish barber, independent food shop, nail salon, charity ahop, Iceland, charity shop, vape shop, Turkish barbers. For a small town we have around 10 barbers shops and at least five vape shops, three phone shops. It’s interesting how empty a lot of those barbers shops are.