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To not want to punish DD during my custody time?

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MummaDelly · 09/03/2026 11:55

Ex and I have been separated 3 years, DD is just about to turn 7. Custody is 50:50.

DD is overall a lovely child, always great school reports, great feedback from friends families and after school clubs etc. She likes rules and routines and tends to question things and wants to learn and understand.

For me she is great, obviously has the odd issue but doesn’t really tantrum. Can usually talk it through and she listens to reason. I have a chore chart and behaviour chart for her which she loves.

Recently my ex has reported DD has been naughty for him, will talk back or completley
ignore him sometimes. I spoke to her about this and she didn’t really have an answer for why she behaved like that and denied some of his claims. I know how he parents and it is different to me, he changes his mind a lot and on one day a certain behaviour will be funny to him but the next he gets frustrated by it. He will have loads of patience and ask multiple times for her to tidy her room but get annoyed if she leaves her shoes beside the shoe rack.

I offered to chat over the phone about how we can handle this together which he didn’t really seem keen on, I sent him photos of our chore charts etc and offered to print the same for him. I also said we could chat to DD together but again he didn’t really jump at this idea. I think he is a bit defensive of his parenting.

This weekend he had her the whole time and called my on Sunday to say that he had missed his mums birthday thing because DD had refused to get dressed out of her PJs, so they had to stay at home because “I’m not going to wrestle her into clothes, she’s not a baby”…

Next weekend I have plans with my friends, their children and my DD and exH said he had told DD she wasn’t going to go. I said to him that it’s not reasonable to punish her a week later and that I’ve already bought tickets etc and that I hadn’t experienced any of this bad behaviour. He also said that he is not going to renew her gymnastics club for after Easter if she doesn’t start behaving better but that seems really severe to me.

I don’t know how to help or advise him. Maybe I do need to be stricter…? It’s hard because I don’t see this bad behaviour

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BudgetBuster · 09/03/2026 13:28

NoisyViewer · 09/03/2026 13:25

I think that’s extreme. He already said we’ll give the present at school. He had a problem with the sulking the whole time she was at the party, which isn’t ok

Exactly 💯
Im sure he mentioned to the parents that he forgot the gift and would bring it to school.

Being sad is fine, sulking and therefore potentially bringing down the mood of an entire party isn't OK. The "compromise" I'd be giving here is Cheer up and enjoy the party or go home.

Mangelwurzelfortea · 09/03/2026 13:27

NoisyViewer · 09/03/2026 13:25

I think that’s extreme. He already said we’ll give the present at school. He had a problem with the sulking the whole time she was at the party, which isn’t ok

She's 6 years old. Regulating your emotions just because an adult tells you to isn't really a thing at that age.

He messed up and handled it really badly.

MummaDelly · 09/03/2026 13:26

Beachingtons · 09/03/2026 13:20

This level of compromise and reassuring would not be necessary for the vast majority of children.

I think you and your ex are at opposite ends of the spectrum here. I don’t think either of you are bad parents, but ultimately you could read the situation as him being too authoritative and inconsistent, and you spoiling her and being over-indulgent.

The result is your kid is unhappy because she has inconsistent rules. You need to meet him in the middle.

You ignored my earlier question about whether she has issues with authority and talking back at school…

I disagree with your take on what I’ve said. I don’t spoil her and actually would say I’m quite strict. Not many children I know her age have the same chore expectations, limits on screen time etc. But I am consistent, which I would say her dad is not as much.

And I hadn’t ignored your question, there’s a lot of people to answer and I was typing as you sent your second message. You can see I have now replied in more detail but no my daughter does not have a problem with authority and has only ever been complimented by her teachers

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NoisyViewer · 09/03/2026 13:25

Mangelwurzelfortea · 09/03/2026 13:17

I agree. He forgot it and instead of apologising or trying to fix the situation, he wants to punish his daughter for being upset by HIS mistake. I really dislike that kind of attitude. He needs to take responsibility for upsetting his daughter but blames her for being upset instead. It's such classic toxic male behaviour!

I think that’s extreme. He already said we’ll give the present at school. He had a problem with the sulking the whole time she was at the party, which isn’t ok

ImImmortalNowBabyDoll · 09/03/2026 13:25

I think that missing an event a week later is too extreme a punishment and impinges too much on your parenting time.

If she'd done something serious, like been suspended from school, fighting, stealing etc., then I would think it was good co-parenting to agree on a punishment and enforce it at both houses but not for this, which is just a typical stroppy 6 yo pushing boundaries. I agree that he should have just taken her in pyjamas and made her sit on her own until she got dressed.

I would have a talk to her about that not being acceptable though.

The gymnastics is his choice, seems a bit of a weird and disconnected punishment to me.

NoisyViewer · 09/03/2026 13:22

MummaDelly · 09/03/2026 13:14

I would have spent time in the car letting her calm down and then found a way to compromise. I wouldn’t have bought another present but I would have gone to the parents/child and apologised for me forgetting, explained DD was sad about not having a present to give and we’d give it on Monday. Spent the time understanding why it’s such a big deal to her and explaining at her level how we would resolve it

Maybe he could have taken a screenshot of the present on the Argos website and let her show that to the friend or something. Rather than dragging her into the party crying and telling her she is silly for being upset about this.

you think dragging the party kid away from having fun to appease your daughter is reasonable and fair on that child. To comfort your child so she would feel better and potentially wreck the surprise of what’s in the present (which by all accounts the most exciting thing) you’re putting to much emphasis on her feelings above what’s reasonable, things aren’t going to go her way, your daughter is only 6. I agree she can’t help feeling and acting out. Thats why we teach them at this age to behave appropriately. I probably would have asked another parent to watch her whilst I ran back and got the present, but my gosh she’d have had some consequences to teach her to not try ruin someone else’s day. I think there’s an over pandering from you and a lack of patience from the dad. He needs to chill out abit and you need to firm up a little.

MummaDelly · 09/03/2026 13:21

Beachingtons · 09/03/2026 12:55

It sounds like you negotiate a lot with your DD - letting her choose rewards, explaining why, talking things through, even coming up with extreme measures like letting her go out in pyjamas and taking a bag of clothes if she doesn’t want to get dressed. You give her a lot of control in a way that clearly works for you both in your house. You’re raising her to be curious and feel like she has equal say in decisions that impact her, which is a great thing, when it works.

But it’s a style that isn’t always available and she needs to learn that when an adult tells her to do something, she does it.

Does she get in trouble at school for talking back?

No she doesn’t “talk back” and has never been in trouble at school, I’ve never heard a bad word about her from any adults and she does great with her peers. She understand and respects everyone has feeling and opinions and is conscious of those, will ask if people are okay, suggest games that everyone can join etc

I disagree that i negotiate with her, I am willing to compromise (not on everything) because she is entitled to have an opinion and I don’t want her to be a robot. If she doesn’t want to wear certain clothes then we will compromise with another option but I’ll ask her why she doesn’t want those and she can communicate with me “the label is itchy” “the trousers feel too small” etc.

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Beachingtons · 09/03/2026 13:20

MummaDelly · 09/03/2026 13:14

I would have spent time in the car letting her calm down and then found a way to compromise. I wouldn’t have bought another present but I would have gone to the parents/child and apologised for me forgetting, explained DD was sad about not having a present to give and we’d give it on Monday. Spent the time understanding why it’s such a big deal to her and explaining at her level how we would resolve it

Maybe he could have taken a screenshot of the present on the Argos website and let her show that to the friend or something. Rather than dragging her into the party crying and telling her she is silly for being upset about this.

This level of compromise and reassuring would not be necessary for the vast majority of children.

I think you and your ex are at opposite ends of the spectrum here. I don’t think either of you are bad parents, but ultimately you could read the situation as him being too authoritative and inconsistent, and you spoiling her and being over-indulgent.

The result is your kid is unhappy because she has inconsistent rules. You need to meet him in the middle.

You ignored my earlier question about whether she has issues with authority and talking back at school…

BudgetBuster · 09/03/2026 13:17

MummaDelly · 09/03/2026 13:14

I would have spent time in the car letting her calm down and then found a way to compromise. I wouldn’t have bought another present but I would have gone to the parents/child and apologised for me forgetting, explained DD was sad about not having a present to give and we’d give it on Monday. Spent the time understanding why it’s such a big deal to her and explaining at her level how we would resolve it

Maybe he could have taken a screenshot of the present on the Argos website and let her show that to the friend or something. Rather than dragging her into the party crying and telling her she is silly for being upset about this.

Yeah i think your parenting styles are VERY different. Yours seems to be a bit frilly, and his seems to be more authoritarian.

And that's possibly the issue... they are EXTREMELY different so she's going to be very disregulated.

Mangelwurzelfortea · 09/03/2026 13:17

99bottlesofkombucha · 09/03/2026 13:13

That doesn’t mean some children might not be really stressed about this. Have literally never seen a present given at school so I can see why she’d not be ok at that age, my eldest might have refused to go in too. This is 100% on the parent and he needs to own that .

I agree. He forgot it and instead of apologising or trying to fix the situation, he wants to punish his daughter for being upset by HIS mistake. I really dislike that kind of attitude. He needs to take responsibility for upsetting his daughter but blames her for being upset instead. It's such classic toxic male behaviour!

GertrudePerkinsPaperyThing · 09/03/2026 13:16

MummaDelly · 09/03/2026 12:55

Another example of recent bad behaviour was he was taking her to a birthday party, I had bought the present with DD earlier and gave it to him when I dropped DD to his that morning. He forgot to take the present to the party and when they realised in the car DD said she didn’t want to go because she didn’t have a present to give. He said they could give it to the child at school next week but DD was still upset and when they went to the party there was a present table in the corridor and she didn’t want to go in past the present table without putting something on the table.

He was really cross about that and said she moped the whole party and there wasn’t a point in going. But she’s 6 and to her it’s a big deal to not give her friend a present, she was embarrassed

He sounds like a dick. Surely they don’t live so far away that he couldn’t possibly have gone back for it?

Mangelwurzelfortea · 09/03/2026 13:14

NoisyViewer · 09/03/2026 13:11

I agree with you about your plans not being affected but he has a point on this. That would cheese me off. She was upset over a present but most kids would get over it within minutes. The fact she did this for the duration of the party suggests she’s being a little bit spoilt. She’s too young to know her actions make others feel, her sulking could have bought the atmosphere down and it’s important they learn that as & when they do it. Making excuses isn’t really going to help her regulate her feelings to suit, cause all you’re teaching her by doing that is an expectation that everyone should consider and understand her feelings regardless of the circumstances. I would not have been happy to get this feed back and if she was to return to me after that party and the dad didn’t have time to sort out consequences I surely would .

Or she could just be really sensitive. Being upset at her friend (not herself) not getting a present doesn't say 'spoiled brat' to me.

MummaDelly · 09/03/2026 13:14

BudgetBuster · 09/03/2026 12:58

And what would you have done in this scenario?

I would have spent time in the car letting her calm down and then found a way to compromise. I wouldn’t have bought another present but I would have gone to the parents/child and apologised for me forgetting, explained DD was sad about not having a present to give and we’d give it on Monday. Spent the time understanding why it’s such a big deal to her and explaining at her level how we would resolve it

Maybe he could have taken a screenshot of the present on the Argos website and let her show that to the friend or something. Rather than dragging her into the party crying and telling her she is silly for being upset about this.

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99bottlesofkombucha · 09/03/2026 13:13

LadyTable · 09/03/2026 12:59

Yeah I would've been cross with her too about that.

I've been to and had plenty of parties where the present has been given at school instead.

And let's face it, plenty of people will be walking past that table if their present is a card with money inside.

They'll normally hand that straight to the parents.

That doesn’t mean some children might not be really stressed about this. Have literally never seen a present given at school so I can see why she’d not be ok at that age, my eldest might have refused to go in too. This is 100% on the parent and he needs to own that .

Mangelwurzelfortea · 09/03/2026 13:13

I disagree with the idea that a parent tells a child what to do/wear/say/how to behave and they must instantly do it without question, otherwise they are bad children. Maybe they are sometimes, but kids are people with their own opinions too. Most kids go through stages when they absolutely refuse to wear trousers/dresses/pink things/tracksuits (my kids went through all of those) and if your child only likes wearing tracksuits but you insist on frilly dresses like they're in Little House on the Prairie, then you're creating a rod for your own back and IMHO that's on you. A lot of parenting IS negotiating, and if you're completely didactic and inflexible, you're going to end up either with a meek and mild child, or one that pushes back and you're endlessly punishing. 'Picking your battles' is about 50% of parenting.

Which is a long way of saying that I disagree with some of the posts saying the OP's child has been naughty and deserves punishing. a) she wasn't there so doesn't know and b) it does sound like her ex is inconsistent and didactic. That's the trouble with co-parenting in separate houses - it's hard to back the other up completely when you don't really know what's happened.

Heronwatcher · 09/03/2026 13:11

MummaDelly · 09/03/2026 12:55

Another example of recent bad behaviour was he was taking her to a birthday party, I had bought the present with DD earlier and gave it to him when I dropped DD to his that morning. He forgot to take the present to the party and when they realised in the car DD said she didn’t want to go because she didn’t have a present to give. He said they could give it to the child at school next week but DD was still upset and when they went to the party there was a present table in the corridor and she didn’t want to go in past the present table without putting something on the table.

He was really cross about that and said she moped the whole party and there wasn’t a point in going. But she’s 6 and to her it’s a big deal to not give her friend a present, she was embarrassed

Yes interested in what you’d have done. I probably would have been quite annoyed at that!

I’d either have said “don’t worry I will
speak to Mina’s mummy and explain, she’ll tell Mina and it won’t be a problem.” I think my kids would have accepted it.

If she was being rude or really moody I probably would have suggested we go back for the present if it was close by but made it clear that she would miss the first half hour and that she had to cheer up and not be rude otherwise the best thing might be to give the whole thing a miss.

But I suspect most of this is in the delivery- I have met many dads whose reaction is to escalate rather than diffuse with boundaries and it’s a difficult skill to learn.

NoisyViewer · 09/03/2026 13:11

MummaDelly · 09/03/2026 12:55

Another example of recent bad behaviour was he was taking her to a birthday party, I had bought the present with DD earlier and gave it to him when I dropped DD to his that morning. He forgot to take the present to the party and when they realised in the car DD said she didn’t want to go because she didn’t have a present to give. He said they could give it to the child at school next week but DD was still upset and when they went to the party there was a present table in the corridor and she didn’t want to go in past the present table without putting something on the table.

He was really cross about that and said she moped the whole party and there wasn’t a point in going. But she’s 6 and to her it’s a big deal to not give her friend a present, she was embarrassed

I agree with you about your plans not being affected but he has a point on this. That would cheese me off. She was upset over a present but most kids would get over it within minutes. The fact she did this for the duration of the party suggests she’s being a little bit spoilt. She’s too young to know her actions make others feel, her sulking could have bought the atmosphere down and it’s important they learn that as & when they do it. Making excuses isn’t really going to help her regulate her feelings to suit, cause all you’re teaching her by doing that is an expectation that everyone should consider and understand her feelings regardless of the circumstances. I would not have been happy to get this feed back and if she was to return to me after that party and the dad didn’t have time to sort out consequences I surely would .

NewGoldFox · 09/03/2026 13:10

Is there a reason he is resistant to the reward charts?
It’s fine for him to stick to his own style of parenting but not to then impose punishments on your time with her. Quite short sighted of him to cancel gymnastics as well.

MummaDelly · 09/03/2026 13:09

LadyTable · 09/03/2026 12:59

Yeah I would've been cross with her too about that.

I've been to and had plenty of parties where the present has been given at school instead.

And let's face it, plenty of people will be walking past that table if their present is a card with money inside.

They'll normally hand that straight to the parents.

Yes but you’re an adult that can reason that. She is 6. All she saw was her friends putting gifts on the table and in her young mind you always go to a party with a gift, so she was worried about not giving a gift. She has been to plenty of parties or seen plenty of gifts given the next day and hasn’t noticed parents giving money to the parents…

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user1492757084 · 09/03/2026 13:08

Your DD's Dad should have expressed sadness that DD forgot the gift and assured her that she should just remember to give the gift at school on Monday, and to tell her friend that.

Your daughter seems dramatic and extra sensitive.
She will adjust to her Dad's way of succinct communication and just getting on with things.

Hfiajfbdoflv · 09/03/2026 13:08

I’m horrified that he thinks an acceptable punishment is cancelling gymnastics. Sport is so so important for kids, plus it helps their behaviour, learning discipline and how to follow instructions. He needs better ways to manage her. Agree that he needs to do a parenting class.

mindutopia · 09/03/2026 13:07

I’m sorry but someone who cannot get their 6 year old dressed, severe SEN issues aside, is simply a rubbish parent. He needs to get up on time, get a plan in place and sort her out. Or frankly, I’d have plopped her in the car in her pj’s and I bet she’d have been ready to get dressed by the time they rolled into the car park. It only took one time driving my 13 year old to the bus stop in her pj’s for her to make sure she was dressed and ready for school on time every morning. 🙄 She’s 6. He needs to enforce his own boundaries. Not get you to do it because he’s too lazy.

NoisyViewer · 09/03/2026 13:03

You’ve tried to meet him halfway, he’s refused but you’re meant to be the one that doles out the punishment. If he takes his daughter to gymnastics and pays then again that’s up to him if he cancels it. He could just not go for 1 week as a preemptive to cancelling so she knows he means business. I wouldn’t be cancelling your plans. I would tell your ex that he needs to find his own parenting plan and to leave you out of it. She doesn’t miss behave for you

CleanOurWater · 09/03/2026 12:59

He doesn't get to impose sanctions that apply to your time without your prior consent .

LadyTable · 09/03/2026 12:59

MummaDelly · 09/03/2026 12:55

Another example of recent bad behaviour was he was taking her to a birthday party, I had bought the present with DD earlier and gave it to him when I dropped DD to his that morning. He forgot to take the present to the party and when they realised in the car DD said she didn’t want to go because she didn’t have a present to give. He said they could give it to the child at school next week but DD was still upset and when they went to the party there was a present table in the corridor and she didn’t want to go in past the present table without putting something on the table.

He was really cross about that and said she moped the whole party and there wasn’t a point in going. But she’s 6 and to her it’s a big deal to not give her friend a present, she was embarrassed

Yeah I would've been cross with her too about that.

I've been to and had plenty of parties where the present has been given at school instead.

And let's face it, plenty of people will be walking past that table if their present is a card with money inside.

They'll normally hand that straight to the parents.

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