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To not want to punish DD during my custody time?

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MummaDelly · 09/03/2026 11:55

Ex and I have been separated 3 years, DD is just about to turn 7. Custody is 50:50.

DD is overall a lovely child, always great school reports, great feedback from friends families and after school clubs etc. She likes rules and routines and tends to question things and wants to learn and understand.

For me she is great, obviously has the odd issue but doesn’t really tantrum. Can usually talk it through and she listens to reason. I have a chore chart and behaviour chart for her which she loves.

Recently my ex has reported DD has been naughty for him, will talk back or completley
ignore him sometimes. I spoke to her about this and she didn’t really have an answer for why she behaved like that and denied some of his claims. I know how he parents and it is different to me, he changes his mind a lot and on one day a certain behaviour will be funny to him but the next he gets frustrated by it. He will have loads of patience and ask multiple times for her to tidy her room but get annoyed if she leaves her shoes beside the shoe rack.

I offered to chat over the phone about how we can handle this together which he didn’t really seem keen on, I sent him photos of our chore charts etc and offered to print the same for him. I also said we could chat to DD together but again he didn’t really jump at this idea. I think he is a bit defensive of his parenting.

This weekend he had her the whole time and called my on Sunday to say that he had missed his mums birthday thing because DD had refused to get dressed out of her PJs, so they had to stay at home because “I’m not going to wrestle her into clothes, she’s not a baby”…

Next weekend I have plans with my friends, their children and my DD and exH said he had told DD she wasn’t going to go. I said to him that it’s not reasonable to punish her a week later and that I’ve already bought tickets etc and that I hadn’t experienced any of this bad behaviour. He also said that he is not going to renew her gymnastics club for after Easter if she doesn’t start behaving better but that seems really severe to me.

I don’t know how to help or advise him. Maybe I do need to be stricter…? It’s hard because I don’t see this bad behaviour

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Assistledoggo · 09/03/2026 17:10

You can’t make him pay for her sports if he doesn’t want to.

you do seem to negotiate and discuss with a very young child more than I would babe and I had kids with various mixes of PDA/ADHD/ASD.

I wouldn’t punish across houses for a one and done incident though. I would for something serious but that would be, for eg, sustained bullying.

i agree as well that I wouldn’t do a reward chart either.

Catwalking · 09/03/2026 17:06

If ex wants to stop having child for as much as 50% then he should say so, why should you be organising your time with child around the things that arise during ex’s times?

Whyherewego · 09/03/2026 17:02

MummaDelly · 09/03/2026 15:48

And what consequence do you suggest I give her at my house?

She’d already had a day of consequences from her dad and it’s not like I gave her a song and dance when she got to mine. It was pretty much straight to bed and school today, I’ve barely seen her.

When she misbehaves for me I give her the appreciate consequence myself then and there, I don’t rely on dad to do another punishment himself too.

I'd strongly disagree with having consequences that cross houses. His house his rules, your house your rules. Yes ideally it would all align and you'd parent the same but realistically there's always differences. One person's tidy is another person's messy. You may care that she makes her bed, he may not.

So youve told him you have a chart. It's up to him to find his thing, can be a chart but doesn't have to be. What he cant do is punish your time with her. Especially at this age for minor issues.
So you need to say, "I am really sorry to hear DD is not behaving at yours. Ive found the chart really effective for me, you may like to try it. But I can't have you making unilateral punishments that affect my time with her unless we've discussed and agreed it first. So I will be taking her to see my friends as this is not an arrangement that can be easily undone. Likewise if you want to stop gymnastics then that's your decision as it's in your time. I think it's a shame but I am not going to stop you"

ChavsAreReal · 09/03/2026 16:40

Agree with PP.

Different place, Different rules. It applies to school/grandparents/friends too.

They soon learn which boundaries/expectations apply in each place.

You arent together anymore. You won't always be able to agree. Carrying over his punishments is ludicrous. There could be exceptions to this for eg 'no tik tok' if you reach an agreement.

You're too involved with him. Its not going to work.

NotAnotherChickenNugget · 09/03/2026 16:37

Notasbigasithink · 09/03/2026 15:41

Give her a consequence at your house perhaps if she misbehaves at his?
Talking to her clearly didn't work, its hardly a consequence is it?!

I disagree with this, surely a consequence should be given at the time in a related way which it sounds like it was. Why should it be dragged out back at mum’s house? If something happens at home when I’m in another room, I’d expect my DH to deal with it. I wouldn’t then enter the room and also punish them for something I didn’t even see. Why is this any different?

Littlemisscapable · 09/03/2026 16:17

Iloveagoodnap · 09/03/2026 12:22

Is she happy at her dad’s? Because if she isn’t and it’s showing in her behaviour then I wouldn’t want to bring punishments and you being cross into her happy home with you.

This. All behaviour is communication and all that ... she is clearly not happy with something if she is normally happy and settled I would want to know more about what is wrong. And conflating this with gymnastics and outings just isnt ok.

MJagain · 09/03/2026 16:14

MummaDelly · 09/03/2026 12:44

Obviously this isn’t what I wanted for her. I thought I did everything I could, took my time and established a great family for her to be born into. It wasn’t to be and I have constant guilt that I failed her. But she has been well adjusted until a couple of months ago, I thought we’d smashed the co parenting

Maybe it’s worked for a while while she was small and malleable, but now her dad can’t be arsed with the next stage of parenting.

engaging with them as individuals and guiding them through life is very different to the basics of nappies/meals/basic play that young kids need. Often men just simply can’t be arsed and/ or they are too controlling and selfish to listen to the child

Noorandapples · 09/03/2026 16:12

All of these commenters saying you need to carry out punishments on behalf of your ex are being ridiculous. You do NOT need to help him parent, coparenting has limits. You dont agree on parenting styles and that's okay, she'll get used to different expectations in each house and it's much more stable for her to know you'll stick to your parenting and he'll stick to his. Working together only goes so far, he doesn't get to tell you what to do.

SynthEsjs · 09/03/2026 16:08

Nope. He has no control over your time with her, enjoy your time out with her.

It’s his own fault he missed his mum’s birthday, he should come up with better coping strategies like getting her dressed himself or taking her in her pyjamas. If we didn’t want to do either of these, that’s on him not you.

Moonnstarz · 09/03/2026 16:06

Agree that any punishment needs to happen in his time. Also doing a punishment a week later for a young child is ineffective as they will not link the punishment to the behaviour.
I do think it's fine though if she does play up for him and he says he will stop gymnastics for him to carry out that threat.
You say that shouldn't happen as she is a well behaved child, but maybe she is difficult for him or pushes him. You sound like you spend a lot of time negotiating with her (based on the examples you gave over how you would have dealt with the situations) and maybe he thinks this is unnecessary, you also have reward charts which to me suggest she is not a complete angel.

I also would be annoyed if she moped around at a friend's party and would have probably taken her home..do you know he definitely didn't say anything to the host about dropping the gift off another time?

PuppiesProzacProsecco · 09/03/2026 16:05

Some of the replies on here are insane! OP you sound like a fabulous mummy and I'd be willing to bet your relationship with your lovely little girl will flourish and be a lifelong joy to you both. Her dad, on the other hand, sounds like a bit of a dick. But at least she has one fantastic parent, which is more than some kids have.

TakeTheCuntingQuichePatricia · 09/03/2026 15:59

I point blank refused to carry punishment over from their Dad's house. I would reiterate that they had to follow the rules at his, the same as they did at mine. But if he felt the need to punish them then that's for him to do in his time. In the same way I didnt expect him to punishment them for things they did at my house.

Blondeshavemorefun · 09/03/2026 15:55

His punishment can’t happen on your time and vice versia

why he didn’t just to the party and take clothes with him / sure she would have changed there

equally you are saying she said she did change and wasn’t in pjs ? So maybe find out what clothes she was in

you have different types of parenting which is hard.

agree having a reward chart shouldn’t be needed if there are no issues

BudgetBuster · 09/03/2026 15:49

MummaDelly · 09/03/2026 15:35

I did stand united with him, I spoke to her yesterday evening and asked what had happened. I said things like ‘you were excited for a nice weekend with daddy and to see x cousin. But daddy said you weren’t behaved enough to go which is disappointing”. “I don’t like to hear that you’ve been raising your voice” etc. What else can I do when I’m not there?

I have the behaviour chart at my house and before it was only for the days I have her, I can extend that to every day but I can’t be the only one with the chart and therefore giving her the punishment a few days after the problem.

Im happy to be on the same page as dad, but he needs to be open to those discussions for that to happen and so far I’m the only one that’s trying

Personally I don't agree with your style of parenting.... but it clearly works for you. To caveat I don't agree with your exes either... I prefer a blend of the 2 BUT I acknowledge that's very difficult in the case of blended families.

From experience, my stepson was an absolute terror for his mother (especially in the evenings) but he wasnt like that at his dad's house (or our house thereafter when we lived together). The 2 parenting styles were completely different.

In the end, what has worked for us is the concept that different houses have different rules. My husband used to try to help his ex handle SS on her days and talk to him on the phone or have a chat when he got back to ours about his behaviour... but it became exhausting. They are now seperated 12yrs and the "different rules" approach works to the best extent possible.

By different rules we mean that Mum does things X way and Dad does them Y way and each parent / adult in the house (for example grandparents or caregivers) set the rules, expectations and consequences. The only thing they really ever discuss is school or medical related or perhaps phone use (but again we have VERY different rules around this).

He cannot expect you to change your plans, just like you cannot control her behaviour at his house and vice versa.

MummaDelly · 09/03/2026 15:48

Notasbigasithink · 09/03/2026 15:41

Give her a consequence at your house perhaps if she misbehaves at his?
Talking to her clearly didn't work, its hardly a consequence is it?!

And what consequence do you suggest I give her at my house?

She’d already had a day of consequences from her dad and it’s not like I gave her a song and dance when she got to mine. It was pretty much straight to bed and school today, I’ve barely seen her.

When she misbehaves for me I give her the appreciate consequence myself then and there, I don’t rely on dad to do another punishment himself too.

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Notasbigasithink · 09/03/2026 15:41

MummaDelly · 09/03/2026 15:35

I did stand united with him, I spoke to her yesterday evening and asked what had happened. I said things like ‘you were excited for a nice weekend with daddy and to see x cousin. But daddy said you weren’t behaved enough to go which is disappointing”. “I don’t like to hear that you’ve been raising your voice” etc. What else can I do when I’m not there?

I have the behaviour chart at my house and before it was only for the days I have her, I can extend that to every day but I can’t be the only one with the chart and therefore giving her the punishment a few days after the problem.

Im happy to be on the same page as dad, but he needs to be open to those discussions for that to happen and so far I’m the only one that’s trying

Give her a consequence at your house perhaps if she misbehaves at his?
Talking to her clearly didn't work, its hardly a consequence is it?!

TwinklySquid · 09/03/2026 15:39

MummaDelly · 09/03/2026 14:59

I feel like before we were sort of on the same page about this. And if ExH has said DD physically hit out, stole something, bullied someone… I would of course carry over the punishment. There are some behaviours where a longer term consequence is needed and I wouldn’t even hesitate.

My daughter’s father moans that daughter doesn’t always behave as she should. I’ve tried to help but he then backtracks and says he doesn’t mind. So I leave it now.

Just have a word with her, tell him you’ve done it and see how it goes.

MummaDelly · 09/03/2026 15:35

Notasbigasithink · 09/03/2026 15:23

Consequences shouldn't extend across households with joint custody however, you are condoning the behaviour by not standing untied with your exh.
It is not acceptable for your daughter to misbehave in her dad's care and for you to do nothing about it! I'm sure you would be horrified if she was misbehaving at school and certainly wouldn't just let it go when she came home. I would be mortified to hear that my daughter was playing her dad up. This needs to be nipped in the bud now OP!

I did stand united with him, I spoke to her yesterday evening and asked what had happened. I said things like ‘you were excited for a nice weekend with daddy and to see x cousin. But daddy said you weren’t behaved enough to go which is disappointing”. “I don’t like to hear that you’ve been raising your voice” etc. What else can I do when I’m not there?

I have the behaviour chart at my house and before it was only for the days I have her, I can extend that to every day but I can’t be the only one with the chart and therefore giving her the punishment a few days after the problem.

Im happy to be on the same page as dad, but he needs to be open to those discussions for that to happen and so far I’m the only one that’s trying

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PeopleLikeColdplayYouCantTrustPeopleJez · 09/03/2026 15:29

No, I wouldn’t carry his punishments over onto your time. Certainly regarding a prearranged outing that has nothing to do with him. He needs to find a way of dealing with challenging behaviour before your daughter gets older- if they but heads now it’s going to a war zone when she hits puberty in my experience.

MummaDelly · 09/03/2026 15:28

LemonTT · 09/03/2026 15:13

Tbh, you seem to be trying to find “loophole” for her not to have been disobedient. She was asked to change. She refused. She needs to know this was wrong in your eyes and his eyes. There shouldn’t be any horse trading on whether she can call PJs, clean or not PJs or whether she can change later.

And this is not a reward chart scenario.

So what is your suggestion?

I’m not at his house and haven’t experienced this behaviour. So if she doesn’t want to get dressed but he doesn’t want to miss the party then what do you think should have happened?

If he punishes her… I have no issues with that. Make her sit all day bored with no tv and no fun and tell her how disappointed you are (which is what happened). No dessert after dinner, early to bed etc. That’s the punishment and I’m not upset about punishment she experienced that day and I’m not condoning the behaviour.

But if a child is considered well mannered and easy to handle by every other adult expect one person, then it’s showing where the issue is

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HelenaWaiting · 09/03/2026 15:27

Beachingtons · 09/03/2026 13:20

This level of compromise and reassuring would not be necessary for the vast majority of children.

I think you and your ex are at opposite ends of the spectrum here. I don’t think either of you are bad parents, but ultimately you could read the situation as him being too authoritative and inconsistent, and you spoiling her and being over-indulgent.

The result is your kid is unhappy because she has inconsistent rules. You need to meet him in the middle.

You ignored my earlier question about whether she has issues with authority and talking back at school…

Yep, she's allowed to ignore your questions. You aren't her parent.

MissionBiscuits · 09/03/2026 15:26

MummaDelly · 09/03/2026 15:13

DD was 3 when we seperated and just 4 when the divorce became official. She doesn’t remember us being together

There was a variety of reasons but the nail in the coffin was the exH had made poor choices and got into debt without telling me and then made more bad choices to cover it up. Unfortunately it all stems from him being a proud man who doesn’t like to ask for help

Snap! Like you, the final catalyst was a major poor financial decision, which inevitably opened my eyes to all the smaller ones that had happened along the way. Sadly my kids are older so they've had to put up with a lot more, but at least they have each other when they're with him.

Notasbigasithink · 09/03/2026 15:23

MummaDelly · 09/03/2026 11:55

Ex and I have been separated 3 years, DD is just about to turn 7. Custody is 50:50.

DD is overall a lovely child, always great school reports, great feedback from friends families and after school clubs etc. She likes rules and routines and tends to question things and wants to learn and understand.

For me she is great, obviously has the odd issue but doesn’t really tantrum. Can usually talk it through and she listens to reason. I have a chore chart and behaviour chart for her which she loves.

Recently my ex has reported DD has been naughty for him, will talk back or completley
ignore him sometimes. I spoke to her about this and she didn’t really have an answer for why she behaved like that and denied some of his claims. I know how he parents and it is different to me, he changes his mind a lot and on one day a certain behaviour will be funny to him but the next he gets frustrated by it. He will have loads of patience and ask multiple times for her to tidy her room but get annoyed if she leaves her shoes beside the shoe rack.

I offered to chat over the phone about how we can handle this together which he didn’t really seem keen on, I sent him photos of our chore charts etc and offered to print the same for him. I also said we could chat to DD together but again he didn’t really jump at this idea. I think he is a bit defensive of his parenting.

This weekend he had her the whole time and called my on Sunday to say that he had missed his mums birthday thing because DD had refused to get dressed out of her PJs, so they had to stay at home because “I’m not going to wrestle her into clothes, she’s not a baby”…

Next weekend I have plans with my friends, their children and my DD and exH said he had told DD she wasn’t going to go. I said to him that it’s not reasonable to punish her a week later and that I’ve already bought tickets etc and that I hadn’t experienced any of this bad behaviour. He also said that he is not going to renew her gymnastics club for after Easter if she doesn’t start behaving better but that seems really severe to me.

I don’t know how to help or advise him. Maybe I do need to be stricter…? It’s hard because I don’t see this bad behaviour

Consequences shouldn't extend across households with joint custody however, you are condoning the behaviour by not standing untied with your exh.
It is not acceptable for your daughter to misbehave in her dad's care and for you to do nothing about it! I'm sure you would be horrified if she was misbehaving at school and certainly wouldn't just let it go when she came home. I would be mortified to hear that my daughter was playing her dad up. This needs to be nipped in the bud now OP!

Pistachiocake · 09/03/2026 15:21

It's not uncommon for kids to behave like this after a divorce. Don't suppose she could have been watching something like the Parent Trap, or anything similar? I had friends who really tried to act up to get their mum and dad back together, and when it didn't work, would try to play each off each other/see what they could get away with. They were a bit older, but friends who work with kids say even younger kids often have issues in similar situations, and quite young kids can try it on, knowing mum won't let dad stop her going to gymnastics, or vice versa.

MummaDelly · 09/03/2026 15:20

roilito · 09/03/2026 15:02

I think if a generally well behaved child starts acting out, something is wrong and reaching for punishment first is not the way to go. He needs to connect and communicate with her properly if he wants a good long term relationship. I feel sorry for her, the examples you give are things my similarly aged DD would worry about and be anxious about and I wouldn’t dream of being cross with her, behaviour is communication so what is she trying to communicate?

Totally agree that such big changes in behaviour is the child trying to communicate something. I’ve been doing some googling too and something that came up was a diary for her to write in about how she’s feeling or what she’s thinking. I might chat to dad and see if it’s something we can implement. I think if exH could see her words written down he’d take it in more because in a heated conversation he doesn’t really listen well. And it will also help me understand what’s happening when im not there.

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