To absolutely loathe the increase in smear campaigns against businesses because of the halal meat debate?

Nobody needs to explain anything - I am just interested as to why.

I have had conversations with Muslims about their beliefs and why they believe them and some really interesting conversations with Jehovah's Witnesses as to why they believe what they do - particularly around not celebrating Christmas and Birthdays.

I have also had conversations with people from different sides of the political spectrum and different backgrounds to me as to where their beliefs, ideas and views come from.

Sometimes that has led me to change my mind about things or think of things differently, sometimes listening to my views has changed other peoples minds

Having conversations about what people believe and why leads to greater understanding and a much more peaceful and cohesive world generally.

Do the people who only buy free range eggs know or care what happens to the male chicks in the industry? They are gassed or occasionally macerated at a day old, it happens whether the eggs are battery or free range.

Ill stick with the old testament because thats Gods original laws.
Jesus said himself i have not come to change anything but to fulfil the will of him who sent me.
In mark 5, he says I have not come to abolish any laws.
Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them. Mark 5.17.

I think you mean Matthew 5.17?

Do you make sure not to wear clothes of two different fabrics together? (Leviticus 19:19 and Deuteronomy 22:9–11)

Do you also avoid shellfish which is also deemed unclean? (Leviticus 11:9-12 and Deuteronomy 14:9-10)

Do you believe unmarried women who are raped should have to marry their rapist? (Deuteronomy 22:28-29)

Do you believe that if a man accuses a woman of not being a virgin when he marries her she can be killed? (Deuteronomy 22:20-21)

Just interested whether you follow all of the laws laid out in Deuteronomy and Leviticus or just the ones that suite you?

Most people follow etiquette when sharing a meal in someone’s home, they probably know and like them.

In a supermarket customers can just choose the product they want. Some will look for halal others will avoid it and choose non halal. I don’t think either need to explain much more on why.

Also applies to a restaurant, bakery, school. Customer choice is with them, not others to order they must buy it.

Ill stick with the old testament because thats Gods original laws.
Jesus said himself i have not come to change anything but to fulfil the will of him who sent me.
In mark 5, he says I have not come to abolish any laws.
Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them. Mark 5.17.

I think you mean Matthew 5.17?

Do you make sure not to wear clothes of two different fabrics together? (Leviticus 19:19 and Deuteronomy 22:9–11)

Do you also avoid shellfish which is also deemed unclean? (Leviticus 11:9-12 and Deuteronomy 14:9-10)

Do you believe unmarried women who are raped should have to marry their rapist? (Deuteronomy 22:28-29)

Do you believe that if a man accuses a woman of not being a virgin when he marries her she can be killed? (Deuteronomy 22:20-21)

Just interested whether you follow all of the laws laid out in Deuteronomy and Leviticus or just the ones that suite you?

Most people follow etiquette when sharing a meal in someone’s home, they probably know and like them.

In a supermarket customers can just choose the product they want. Some will look for halal others will avoid it and choose non halal. I don’t think either need to explain much more on why.

Also applies to a restaurant, bakery, school. Customer choice is with them, not others to order they must buy it.

Certainly, if you’re a mainstream Christian, you throw out the bits that are made outdated by the New Testament.

But live by whatever rules you personally like.

What's so hilarious? The bible? The truth of pork?

As a fellow atheist I would be interested to know why the Tasmiyah bothers you so much?

The Tasmiyah is the words: "Bismillahir-Rahmanir-Rahim" (In the name of Allah, the Most Gracious, the Most Merciful).

Many Muslims recite this - not just when slaughtering animals. They often say it before daily tasks including eating, drinking or praying.

What is it about those words that bother you so much? Is it just in the context of slaughter or would you refuse to share a meal with a Muslim who said this at the start of the meal?

If you were at a dinner table with a Christian who said a prayer at the start of the meal, would you also refuse to eat it?

What if you were invited to Shabbat by a Jewish person - would you refuse to go?

I am genuinely interested in what it is you find objectionable, because neither the Tasmiyah, lighting candles, saying the Kiddush, eating challah or sitting with a Christian who felt the need to "thank the lord for what we are about to receive" would bother me as none of that holds any meaning for me.

I would just respectfully be quite until my companion had done or said what they needed to.

Bloody ridiculous. If he doesn't want to serve halal meat, fine. If he does, also fine. No need to egg him. Ridiculous

So just throw the old testament out then?

Whilst I agree (I'm veggie), this debate is predominantly driven by racism. Most the people kicking up a fuss don't give a toss about animal welfare.

Speak for yourself and not all atheists.

OMG! 😂

This is all you stuff, though, isn't it.

It's your thoughts, which you're entitled to, of course. But it's not mainstream Christian teaching or practice.

Ill stick with the old testament because thats Gods original laws.

Jesus said himself i have not come to change anything but to fulfil the will of him who sent me.

In mark 5, he says I have not come to abolish any laws.

Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them. Mark 5.17.

Jesus cant come and change what God has decided.

There is a reason why this is. Pork is dirty and harmful. Pigs eat their own poo. They also will happily drink the urine straight out of a pig. Proof is on YouTube. Pigs can also have hepatitis and tapeworm. Pigs also eat other pigs and basically anything. Also you can see this on YouTube that if you pour coca cola on raw pork it causes maggots to rise, still alive, wiggling around. That's because flies are attracted to poo. When you see dogs mess on the street theres usually flies on it. The flies lay their eggs/maggots in the poo and they are still alive.
Also sausage comes from the entire pig that means its brain, eyeballs, genital, anus, bowels, liver, snout the lot are in a hot dog. Ill stick with the original teachings of the old testament and evidence I have seen to support this. I cant and will not go against Gods teachings. I also dont believe jesus would ever eat pork. He had a clean diet.

It’s the same types

Bothered about Halal, not bothered about Kosher, Battery Eggs, the appalling way lots of farmed meat is reared

Bothered about VAWG when it’s a Muslim/Brown perpetrator, not bothered when it’s a White one

It’s because they are Racist.

Why are you quoting the Old Testament when there is a New Testament verse that supersedes it?

Ok great, I don’t think people will object.

Does this include clear halal labelling on meat sold or in places such as schools?

Because if you want that too then it looks like everyone agrees pretty much.

Ill stick with the old testament because thats Gods original laws.

Jesus said himself i have not come to change anything but to fulfil the will of him who sent me.

In mark 5, he says I have not come to abolish any laws.

Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them. Mark 5.17.

Jesus cant come and change what God has decided.

There is a reason why this is. Pork is dirty and harmful. Pigs eat their own poo. They also will happily drink the urine straight out of a pig. Proof is on YouTube. Pigs can also have hepatitis and tapeworm. Pigs also eat other pigs and basically anything. Also you can see this on YouTube that if you pour coca cola on raw pork it causes maggots to rise, still alive, wiggling around. That's because flies are attracted to poo. When you see dogs mess on the street theres usually flies on it. The flies lay their eggs/maggots in the poo and they are still alive.
Also sausage comes from the entire pig that means its brain, eyeballs, genital, anus, bowels, liver, snout the lot are in a hot dog. Ill stick with the original teachings of the old testament and evidence I have seen to support this. I cant and will not go against Gods teachings. I also dont believe jesus would ever eat pork. He had a clean diet.