To buy my first house two minutes down the street from traveller housing initiative?

These are not people you want to live anywhere near OP.

I too have experience of these travellers and now am dealing with Roma - where I am a resident in the EU.

They don't want to respect anyone or anything. I would say more about how I feel about them but I would be banned. Ordinarily, I am a pretty much live let live, left leaning person, but my dealings with both travellers and roma has left me feeling nothing but distress and disgust and fear and loathing.

Those calling out others as racist (check the meaning) and bigoted etc, have not had the frightening experience of encountering these people. How they choose to live is on them. How we choose to view them is our right.

I wouldn't want either group anywhere near me or my family.

Evidence ?

That’s English law which classes them as a race with respect to the equality act. That’s doesn’t actually mean there’s a race of Irish travellers. The hints in the name. They’re Irish or of Irish descent. What the UK has done is bundled all those protected characteristics like ethnicity and race under one umbrella for an act which is quite clear if you read it.

In Ireland, there’s a separate act that protects Irish travellers and they’re recognised as an ethnic minority group not a race by law, distinct from the racial discrimination acts which protect people on the basis of race. And I’m Irish so….

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/politics/oireachtas/travellers-formally-recognised-as-an-ethnic-minority-

Thats not to say they don’t suffer discrimination or harassment akin to racism. But just to point out that they’re technically not a race

Ive seen that with the ponies and traps, going really bloody fast through the centre of Cambridge, a really busy road in the town centre. The poor ponies looked so young and skinny and must have been absolutely terrified with buses whizzing by on the opposite side. The lads driving them couldn't have been more than 12 or 13 and they clearly thought the whole thing was hilarious, thoroughly enjoying the shock and horror on the faces of everyone around.

I'm amazed they were not arrested, but then I guess if they are local the police probably get tired of dealing with the same issues over and over again, so just turn a blind eye.

If you moved into a settled house then provided you just lived a quiet, law abiding, blameless life following the same rules the rest of us have to follow then I imagine most people would welcome you with open arms, actually.

If anyone wants anything 'burned at the stake' it's not individual people or whole ethnic groups of people, it's behaviours. The behaviours are the problem. Taking the view that it's okay to keep behave badly because people hate you anyway is never going to improve community relations, is it?

Exactly, there is no ‘protection’ like that in Ireland anyway. There is ethnic minor status in place, but that’s not some magical protection for a community where many many members are violent and break the law.

The vast majority of members of the TC don’t work regular jobs, so no one is obliged to hire them for jobs they are not interested in applying for to begin with.

No school in Ireland or the UK is turning traveller children away, so they don’t need protection from that over and above an average citizen anyway. Particularly given the majority of the TC generally pull their children from school after primary school anyway.

Sure, there’s been a few compo cases members of the travelling community have taken and won for being refused entry to bars, hotels etc. But that is not going to change the attitudes here of accepting functions like that, because they are statistically likely to end in fights, antisocial behaviour and damage to property.

Honestly, @Betterbeanon78is making very uneducated statements all over this thread, wrongly accusing people of being racists and bigots, and completely disregarding the awful experiences numerous people on this thread have had. Go find a hobby or something.

Has @Betterbeanon78 actually confirmed whether she is a traveller?

I think you’re deluding yourself @Betterbeanon78. Unfortunately there is still much discrimination against the travelling community in Ireland, government measures notwithstanding.
It’s not a small minority of the population who wouldn’t purchase in OP’s situation. There is much work to be done and you are minimising the issues which doesn’t help anyone.

Keep digging.

No one is getting tied up in knots. People have simply shared their experiences of living next to members of the TC and what that has been like for them.

You're the one that is throwing around hateful terms like bigot and racist, and you’ve provided exactly zero evidence or justification that any of these comments have been bigoted. None. Zilch.

You seem to think that if you keep calling people bigots, that it will miraculously be true. It doesn’t work like that.

Form an intelligent argument and do better.

What even is your connection to Ireland or the TC by the way? What skin have you got in this discussion?

Really? Bloomin heck, I dread to think what you’re angry and argumentative looks like! 😦!

What on earth do you mean by 'you must employ them and allow them into schools over there'. ?

Are you implying that traveller children are not allowed into schools in the UK, or are somehow deliberately discouraged from being there?

And as for 'you must employ them' well no-one has to employ anyone purely based on their ethnicity or protected minority status.

Edited to say: sorry, might have quoted the wrong person there!

are you British @Betterbeanon78 ?

It’s all in the last day. Three threads… every single post angry and arguing. What a way to live!

True, but with enforceable consequences similar to that of racial hate incidents.

Unless of course, the civil courts are in the wrong are they? When they awarded travellers compensation for being refused entry.

Most in the racist UK perhaps, and a few bigoted people in Ireland.

Where did you deduce that from? People can do what they like.

I said the law protects the TC in Ireland from bigotry and discrimination (enforced robustly at that).

But if you want to publically air your views over there towards the TC, you better be prepared for the legal consequences.

I am with the law on this one. Most intelligent people are.

Very hard no from me.

Yes, it’s a matter of risk analysis though.

Not pointing fingers, but some people get their fun that way. Find a juicy subject where people feel strongly, take the position you know most won't agree with, and off you go - hours of entertainment!

https://www.equalityhumanrights.com/equality/equality-act-2010/your-rights-under-equality-act-2010/race-discrimination

There is no government protection that requires someone like OP purchase a house that she’s unsure about.

Are you in Ireland @Betterbeanon78?

I am quite energetic thanks.

Must be tiring trawling through other threads to deflect away from the topic at hand...i.e. bigotry.