To buy my first house two minutes down the street from traveller housing initiative?

The point I was making and I believe I was factually defining that point, is that I’m not racist. You may feel I’m bigoted (I personally don't) but you can’t call me or other posters racist as the fact remains travellers aren’t a race.

You’ve been asked numerous times what your experience is with the travelling community and more importantly in my case the Irish travelling community and I can’t remember any reply. Would I treat a member of the travelling community with the same respect as I treat anyone else. Absolutely. Would I choose to live next to a halting site. Absolutely not. The same way as I wouldnt choose to live next to a high crime social housing area. It’s very easy to sit on the moral high ground and spout we’re all bigots if you’ve never actually been affected by the points that others, specifically the overwhelming majority of the Irish responses on this thread have made

i can go off and post numerous links if you want of the way above average percentages of animal cruelty, domestic violence, criminal offences that are committed by members of that demographic in relation to the average populous. Why would I want to live next door to a group of people who are ten times more likely to commit a crime than my non traveller neighbour. That’s not bigotry that’s just common sense

Yes you are racist. You’d face disciplinary action in the workplace for expressing views like this and rightly so.

I’m not sure what your point is. It’s racist to discriminate against Roma, Gypsies or travellers. I’m calling out racism. Every reputable source of information that I can find states as such. You waffling on about the definition of race is missing the point.

www.citizensadvice.org.uk/law-and-courts/discrimination/discrimination-because-of-race-religion-or-belief/discrimination-because-of-race/

You likely work alongside or know people from the travelling community and don’t even realise it because many are too afraid to even admit their roots due to the amount of racism they face.

I could give you many examples of good & bad behaviour in all races, ethnicities, religions- I still wouldn’t tar an entire group of people with the same brush- because I’m not racist.

I know you think you are making a valid point- but really you’re not.

I do, but I’m not engaging with your ignorant questions- turn the question back on yourself, only this time replace it with another race/ethnicity and maybe you’ll realise how stupid you sound.

So to be clear… you have no first hand experience

You likely work alongside or know people from the travelling community and don’t even realise it because many are too afraid to even admit their roots due to the amount of racism they face.

I could give you many examples of good & bad behaviour in all races, ethnicities, religions- I still wouldn’t tar an entire group of people with the same brush- because I’m not racist.

I know you think you are making a valid point- but really you’re not.

What about all of us advising OP not to buy this house because of what we’ve experienced first hand? Not simply what we’ve heard?
Think we’re all racist as well I suppose?

Out of interest, what is your first hand experience of living alongside members of the TC?

Yab v v ur. Prejudice and racist to make decisions based on “what you’ve heard”

have you any idea how it has taken Travellers to be housed in spaces with the rest of the population?? 100’s of years … Travellers are usually placed in local unwanted spaces where there’s a busy motorway, a train station, an electricity substation or pylon.

Sleep well whilst you judge others base. On “what you’re heard” and don’t use mn as trust pilot

Why do racists never want to admit they’re racist? Is it because of a lack of critical thinking ability? That’s what I’ve always assumed.

That’s English law which classes them as a race with respect to the equality act. That’s doesn’t actually mean there’s a race of Irish travellers. The hints in the name. They’re Irish or of Irish descent. What the UK has done is bundled all those protected characteristics like ethnicity and race under one umbrella for an act which is quite clear if you read it.

In Ireland, there’s a separate act that protects Irish travellers and they’re recognised as an ethnic minority group not a race by law, distinct from the racial discrimination acts which protect people on the basis of race. And I’m Irish so….

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/politics/oireachtas/travellers-formally-recognised-as-an-ethnic-minority-

Thats not to say they don’t suffer discrimination or harassment akin to racism. But just to point out that they’re technically not a race

This just shows that no two travellers are the same. I have family that travel in the summer and leave the places they stay on clean and tidy and the rubbish bagged up. I’m a gypsy that is settled in a house most of my neighbours gardens and drives are lovely but there’s a woman here and the front of her garden is piled high with old furniture and rubbish, her back garden is a tip filled with dog shite and more rubbish. She has no excuse, she drives so could take the rubbish herself to the tip but she never does. She’s also a social worker 😬

so to cut a long story short there is good and bad in everyone and some are more respectful than others. But I can’t judge all non gypsy’s the same because I can see that not all are. But it doesn’t work the same when it’s us.

There is no chance it will be fine. Those 6 houses will house around 40 kids, 15 to 20 adults, temporary caravans with more children, horses, scrap metal piles, rubbish and attract criminality and drug dealing. I live within 4 miles of 3 traveller sites and worked in Limerick, including Rathkeal, for 20 years.

I notice a distinct ignorance attitude between Ireland and the UK.

Ireland is far more progressive regarding the Travelling Community. You must employ them and allow them into schools over there. Because of that, they are productive members of society and judgement is far less over there. The vast majority of Irish people would never dream of using disgusting terms as a descriptor towards them as the TC are robustly protected under the Equality Act.

Lets skip across to the UK shall we?...the Travelling Community are renouned for causing trouble. Why? Because they are persecuted for who they are. There is a distinct prejudice against them. Terms such as "Pikeys" are a common term, even amongst 'educated' British people.

Typical of Britain and just only serves to highlight that Ireland is a far more progressive country, and not just in that respect, but multiple respects.