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Are you worried about conscription… *trigger warning - discusses risks of war**

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Shushhh · 08/03/2026 22:20

I don’t know why, but I feel like a huge penny has dropped for me today, on the risks we all face in such uncertain times. I have thought about my nephews, who are 17 and 16. If WW3 happens, they would be at risk of conscription I would imagine, as they turn 18. This has petrified me. They are still babies to me (although I know they are older and wiser than I give them credit for). My husband is a soldier, so I am aware of the risks he faces. Of course I am worried for him too. But I’m just worried for us all. I am worried for our children. Where will they go? Will it be like old war times when they were evacuated? Will my brothers be conscripted? Will females also be put on the front lines? And ultimately, will we survive this.

I know this is scary, and I’m hoping my anxiety (previously diagnosed) is getting the better of me here. But it doesn’t feel like anxiety. It feels like real fear and a real threat.

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Carla786 · 14/03/2026 07:39

Dappy777 · 09/03/2026 15:35

In 1940 this still felt like a country. The majority of people were descended from those who had lived here for centuries. People felt part of a 'tribe'. They lived in a country with a shared history and shared culture and shared identity. That has all gone. When immigration happens on a massive scale, and the majority of immigrants either know nothing about your country, or, frankly, hate it, you've got a problem.

Also, in 1940 the Left had not got control of the universities or the publishing industry. People hadn't been taught to despise their own history and culture. Their national heroes hadn't been ridiculed and demonized. My ancestors fought in both WW1 and WW2, but if war broke out tomorrow I wouldn't lift a finger. MY enemies are the sneering, Oxbridge-educated Left, not Putin or China or Iran. You think I'm going to risk my life to defend Owen Jones' new Britain? No chance! As two-tier Keir said, this is now an "island of strangers". Who wants to die for a island of strangers?

I agree with what you say re effects of mass immigration, but do you really not consider Putin & Xi & the Ayatollah your enemies? They may not be pleasant, but Owen Jones et Al aren't wielding nuclear bombs or plotting dictatorial domination. I don't think we're going to be invaded, be if Xi or Putin or Ayatollah did, would you just surrender on the basis they're 'not the enemy'?

Livelovebehappy · 09/03/2026 18:50

Itsmetheflamingo · 09/03/2026 18:01

“Too many people will get out of it with 'issues'. Ie MH, Adhd, anxiety, stress, etc etc. Today's young aren't resilient.”

that’s what you said. Seems rather more sweeping to all young people than in response to one (older) person in 8 pages thinking their son will be exempt for autism.

I didn’t say I didn’t reference the young. I did, but also referenced able bodied people. But the reality is, we won’t be sending any foot soldiers to fight a war in Iran. It’s not going to be needed.

HippityHoppityHay · 09/03/2026 18:20

OonaStubbs · 08/03/2026 22:52

I would think if they did bring back conscription, which is very unlikely, it'd be for both men and women.

I wouldn't be so sure for pragmatic reasons.
Men are more replaceable.
Women carry the future.

MannequinsArePeopleToo · 09/03/2026 18:16

NotTerfNorCis · 08/03/2026 22:40

I don't think we're anywhere near conscription yet, but Trump has no idea what he's doing - it's hard to imagine a more unsuitable leader for the world's most powerful nation - and the situation could get badly out of hand. Personally I suspect that America will find some reason why they've 'won' and withdraw pretty soon. Trump and the others have shown time and time again that they're comfortable lying and making up reality as they go along.

I agree with you re Trump. More than that though, I don't really believe he wanted the job of President as much as he just wanted to WIN and then monetise the position for himself. I also don't see the 'dementia' that people keep talking about. What I see is a bored, disinterested, worn out old man who likes to play to his crowd. Dangerous yes, but not demented.

NotThisAgain1987 · 09/03/2026 18:05

Octavia64 · 08/03/2026 22:21

No.

America is fighting this bloody war and they don’t have conscription.

even Russia which is fighting a land war in Europe doesn’t have conscription.

Russia has conscription.

Op women already on the front line. No your children won't be evacuated as wat is different now.

Imagine if folks had this level of concern for the kids who've been bombed for the last 3 years in Gaza or the kids being bombed by the state and Israel in Iran.

Itsmetheflamingo · 09/03/2026 18:01

Livelovebehappy · 09/03/2026 17:45

Have you read some posts on here? At least one person has asked the question as to if her child has Autism/adhd, would they be exempt. It’s really not beyond the realms of possibility that people would absolutely use that as an excuse. But if you have complete faith that we can muster up enough people to fight a war (outside of the army of course), you could be right. But I’m doubtful. And I didn’t just mention the young btw. You can be able bodied in your 30s and 40’s, and some in their 50’s.

“Too many people will get out of it with 'issues'. Ie MH, Adhd, anxiety, stress, etc etc. Today's young aren't resilient.”

that’s what you said. Seems rather more sweeping to all young people than in response to one (older) person in 8 pages thinking their son will be exempt for autism.

EarthlyNightshade · 09/03/2026 17:52

hcee19 · 09/03/2026 01:17

Equal opportunities, should apply to both male and female, cannot cherry pick. We are living in uncertain times, but there isn't anything we can really do about it..l think the media likes nothing better to stir up panic amongst us, talking about conscription...no one else is ..

When women start wars at the rate men do, then I would agree with conscription both (if conscripting anyone).
Until then, it has to be voluntary for women.

Livelovebehappy · 09/03/2026 17:45

Itsmetheflamingo · 09/03/2026 16:13

I find this a really weird attitude and yet so many people voice it.

Do you really think, in a conscription scenario, a young person could just say “sorry got ADHD, no can do” and avoid it?! Have you lost your mind?

plus, young people didn’t behave like this in the only world wide crisis in our lifetime, Covid. They behaved excellently, and we should be grateful.

its vile how much some people hate the youth. Don’t you remember when you were young and the silent generation hated you? Do better.

Have you read some posts on here? At least one person has asked the question as to if her child has Autism/adhd, would they be exempt. It’s really not beyond the realms of possibility that people would absolutely use that as an excuse. But if you have complete faith that we can muster up enough people to fight a war (outside of the army of course), you could be right. But I’m doubtful. And I didn’t just mention the young btw. You can be able bodied in your 30s and 40’s, and some in their 50’s.

Livelovebehappy · 09/03/2026 17:40

Somerford · 09/03/2026 16:37

How about you go and fight first, show them how it's done

Not sure they’d want me. I’m mid 50s, but if they can use me, I’d sign up. Of course I would. What’s the alternative? The able bodied protect the ones who can’t. In all wars, it’s always been thus….

pokemoan · 09/03/2026 16:41

SerendipityJane · 09/03/2026 16:38

Like we did in COVID, you mean ?

Like what during Covid?

pokemoan · 09/03/2026 16:40

Somerford · 09/03/2026 16:37

How about you go and fight first, show them how it's done

Indeed!

SerendipityJane · 09/03/2026 16:38

pokemoan · 09/03/2026 16:35

If it’s just canon fodder even more reason to protect the young!

Like we did in COVID, you mean ?

Somerford · 09/03/2026 16:37

Livelovebehappy · 09/03/2026 16:04

It won't work in the UK. Too many people will get out of it with 'issues'. Ie MH, Adhd, anxiety, stress, etc etc. Today's young aren't resilient. Theyve had a much more cushioned and entitled life. People would just refuse to do it. In previous world wars, you could get imprisoned (or worse in WW1) for refusing to be conscripted. These days if people were threatened with prison they'd just get lawyers to step up and get them off on some sort of technicality, with appeal after appeal, until the war was over, so they'd miss being called up. So, to summarise, if we are depending on conscription of our young/able bodied to save us, then we're all screwed.

How about you go and fight first, show them how it's done

pokemoan · 09/03/2026 16:35

SerendipityJane · 09/03/2026 16:25

Not quite sure what the training for being shot at is ?

If it’s just canon fodder even more reason to protect the young!

pokemoan · 09/03/2026 16:35

Favouritefruits · 09/03/2026 16:33

I don’t think they will but if they did It would be boys and girls of a certain age, can you imagine the backlash if it was only males that were conscripted the government would bd hailed as being sexist! We can’t ask for equal rights and then not include females!

I don’t think they can put the burden on young people, we’ve treated them dreadfully over the last few decades.

Favouritefruits · 09/03/2026 16:33

I don’t think they will but if they did It would be boys and girls of a certain age, can you imagine the backlash if it was only males that were conscripted the government would bd hailed as being sexist! We can’t ask for equal rights and then not include females!

Itsmetheflamingo · 09/03/2026 16:30

SerendipityJane · 09/03/2026 16:25

Not quite sure what the training for being shot at is ?

Can you drink a bottle of gin and get shoved on a boat to run for you life at the other end (d day vibes)

maybe they show them squid games in training?

SerendipityJane · 09/03/2026 16:25

MrFluffyDogIsMyBestFriend · 09/03/2026 16:10

I can't see how this would happen but I'm glad both my DS's have an nhs autism diagnosis. They wouldn't get through the initial training anyway.

Not quite sure what the training for being shot at is ?

Itsmetheflamingo · 09/03/2026 16:19

MrFluffyDogIsMyBestFriend · 09/03/2026 16:16

You think that risking your life and potentially killing people is behaving excellently? Why should they risk their lives because the ruling psychopaths decided to start a war?

what do you mean? I said young people behaved excellently during Covid. Are you saying they were running around taking risks and killing people? Just checking because you know, everyone has conspiracy theories about Covid so you never know……

MrFluffyDogIsMyBestFriend · 09/03/2026 16:16

Itsmetheflamingo · 09/03/2026 16:13

I find this a really weird attitude and yet so many people voice it.

Do you really think, in a conscription scenario, a young person could just say “sorry got ADHD, no can do” and avoid it?! Have you lost your mind?

plus, young people didn’t behave like this in the only world wide crisis in our lifetime, Covid. They behaved excellently, and we should be grateful.

its vile how much some people hate the youth. Don’t you remember when you were young and the silent generation hated you? Do better.

You think that risking your life and potentially killing people is behaving excellently? Why should they risk their lives because the ruling psychopaths decided to start a war?

AreYouBrandNew · 09/03/2026 16:15

@Shushhh op any reason this is your first post?

Itsmetheflamingo · 09/03/2026 16:13

Livelovebehappy · 09/03/2026 16:04

It won't work in the UK. Too many people will get out of it with 'issues'. Ie MH, Adhd, anxiety, stress, etc etc. Today's young aren't resilient. Theyve had a much more cushioned and entitled life. People would just refuse to do it. In previous world wars, you could get imprisoned (or worse in WW1) for refusing to be conscripted. These days if people were threatened with prison they'd just get lawyers to step up and get them off on some sort of technicality, with appeal after appeal, until the war was over, so they'd miss being called up. So, to summarise, if we are depending on conscription of our young/able bodied to save us, then we're all screwed.

I find this a really weird attitude and yet so many people voice it.

Do you really think, in a conscription scenario, a young person could just say “sorry got ADHD, no can do” and avoid it?! Have you lost your mind?

plus, young people didn’t behave like this in the only world wide crisis in our lifetime, Covid. They behaved excellently, and we should be grateful.

its vile how much some people hate the youth. Don’t you remember when you were young and the silent generation hated you? Do better.

MrFluffyDogIsMyBestFriend · 09/03/2026 16:10

I can't see how this would happen but I'm glad both my DS's have an nhs autism diagnosis. They wouldn't get through the initial training anyway.

Everybodys · 09/03/2026 16:07

Livelovebehappy · 09/03/2026 16:04

It won't work in the UK. Too many people will get out of it with 'issues'. Ie MH, Adhd, anxiety, stress, etc etc. Today's young aren't resilient. Theyve had a much more cushioned and entitled life. People would just refuse to do it. In previous world wars, you could get imprisoned (or worse in WW1) for refusing to be conscripted. These days if people were threatened with prison they'd just get lawyers to step up and get them off on some sort of technicality, with appeal after appeal, until the war was over, so they'd miss being called up. So, to summarise, if we are depending on conscription of our young/able bodied to save us, then we're all screwed.

Maybe we could conscript everyone who never fought or did any national service themselves, but nonetheless feel entitled to whine at the young for not doing it.

GreenCaterpillarOnALeaf · 09/03/2026 16:05

No sons of fighting age but DH is. There’s no way he’d be going anywhere. I’ll shoot him in the foot myself. The farther of my 3 children isn’t being cannon fodder I don’t give a fuck.