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DS hates his 1:1 at school - don't know what to do

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EmeraldEcho · 08/03/2026 17:27

My son is 13 and in year 9 at a mainstream school. He has autism and adhd and he spent most of year 7 struggling massively, he had awful meltdowns basically everyday, he was given a reduced timetable as he just couldn't cope, he also hated school

At the start of year 8 he was allocated a TA, he isn't part of the school but he has been employed to be his TA, he's had a lot of experience with SEN children and adults but DS was his first in school support. To my surprise he bonded with him really well and ds really came on so well.

Toward the end of year 8 in the summer term he started taking ds to tesco where he buys ingredients for their cooking and ds also loves this and looks forward to that day, its also building his life skills and maths etc. DS calls him his best friend

This academic year however he's only with him for 3 days, mon-weds and on the Thursday and Friday he has a new TA. They said it was so he needed to bond with someone else if his main TA was off sick (we never had that last year thankfully).

the issue is she really doesn’t know how to deal with him

The first issue is he tells them he needs the toilet quite a lot even if he doesn't actually need it. When he's with his main TA, he encourages him to do a bit more work first (the times when he asks if he's only just gone 5 minutes ago as he uses it to get out of things he doesn't want to do) then takes him, he checks if anyone is in the boys toilets and if there is tells him to go in the disabled and waits for him then checks he's washed his hands. He really doesn't need anyone to do any more than that but in school he needs someone with him and the whole point of a 1:1 is to be with him all the time.

The woman however, tells him no you've already been do your work, I don't know the tone she's saying it in obviously but because he doesn't know when he's going he keeps asking and then meltdown. When he does go to the toilet she sends him alone and then he often goes back soaking wet so he's wetting himself, I initially thought it was water but his underwear is also soaking and it's definitely wee. He's in some mainstream classes now in some subjects so I'm worried about bullying.

He also gets distressed when he needs to get changed and that's another meltdown. He just doesn't seem to have bonded with her, there's also times where he's not on her rota for a Friday so he gets whoever's available and that causes problems too. The school say it's nothing to do with them it's the company and have said they will mention it but it keeps happening

On Wednesdays in his book it often says he’s been on edge all day and presumably because he knows what the next day will be like, we also have problems at home Wednesday evening. Then he's still fragile at the weekend too the smallest thing sets him off and it's only been this academic year. He's said multiple times he wants the main TA even at school during the meltdowns, at home I've tried to explain that he's busy working with other people but it doesn't really register and he's said in his own words he hates her, he hates school and “no school Thursday and friday” is a common saying from him he does always go but it feels mean and I'm also worrying those entire days he's at school

Wwyd?

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sunshine244 · 08/03/2026 21:03

Does your child actually have urinary issues? Or is asking to go to the toilet a sensory, anxiety or behavioural issue?

It sounds a bit like the first OT was being overly supportive. This isn't a good thing as it leads to over reliance. Is it possible they are playing up to try and get their 'friend' reassigned permanently - possibly even deliberately wetting themselves or using water to pretend they have?

Choconuttolata · 08/03/2026 20:59

When my DS had a new 1:1 they did a period of overlap shadowing the original 1:1 to observe what they did that worked and then spent some 1:1 time with DS playing games or doing activities he liked first so that he could build up a trust relationship with them. Ask the school if that would be possible.

Also DS wouldn't cope with multiple changes of new TA when he was already undergoing a change of regular TA. His old school would put the cover TA with another class and he would be 1:1 by a permanent TA known to him already. If your son struggles with change they need a team of regular staff members to rotate so a third/fourth permanent member of staff who can be swapped in to be with him if either regular TA are off.

I would say that a female TA just needs to take him to the disabled toilet on whatever floor he is on because they can't check the male toilet, other people in the toilet might be scaring him leading to him having accidents. Very important especially if bullying is an issue as it could be occurring in the toilets or he has trauma from previous occurrences of bullying in the toilets.

You need a meeting with the SENCO.

ExistingonCoffee · 08/03/2026 20:54

Even if the only support with toileting is checking DS has washed and dried his hands, that can be included in DS’s EHCP. Some schools would have an intimate care plan even if washing/drying hands was the only toileting support required.

Would DS use the disabled toilet all the time? The school could put a sign in there reminding to wash and dry hands.

Octavia64 · 08/03/2026 20:50

I have worked as both a Sen teacher and a 1:1 ta.

it really isn’t normal for the 1:1 to physically accompany a student to the toilets.

however it doesn’t matter what is normal it matters what is written down in his EHCP. What does his EHCP say?

EmeraldEcho · 08/03/2026 20:43

As I said DS doesn't need any type of intimate care, he's capable of using the toilet himself. He just needs to be checked if he's washed his hands, as sometimes he needs reminded (to the point we have a wash hands sign at home) or told to dry them as he also has a habit of rushing our with wet hands. I'm not saying she needs to go in with him, just wait outside.

There's the boys toilets, girls toilets, and one disabled toilet with the big cubicle on each floor. The male TA would check there wasn't any or many people in the male toilets (and it was unlocked as they tend to lock the toilets during lesson time) and if it is busy or locked then they'd go to the disabled toilets a short walk away. Obviously a female ta couldn't check but she could escort him to I still think the role of a 1:1 is to be with him at all times and not leave him to wander and wet himself. I get it probably is annoying to take him multiple times a day to the toilet when you can't be sure he actually needs it so it really feels like she just doesn't want to take him

As I said I'm concerned about bullying and he's really struggling those 2 days which is having a knock on effect to the Wednesday and the weekends so the only good days he's having are Monday and Tuesday as on Wednesday he's obviously worrying

@90sTrifleI don’t agree he’s manipulating the situation. he’s autistic and he has the same TA every school day last year, even the original TA was confused that he had him less this year so i don’t think it was his choice, likely schools. but give him 2 to begin with then instead of letting him get attached to the same person. He’s not working in the school when he’s not with DS luckily as that would likely cause even more upset.

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ExistingonCoffee · 08/03/2026 20:42

When is DS’s next AR due?

I think you need a meeting with the school and care company. TA2 doesn’t sound like she understands DS’s needs and the support he requires. The relationship between TA1 and DS sounds like it is too close.

What does the EHCP say about toileting? Does the EHCP say anything about the experience, training and qualifications of the TAs? Does it say anything about the consistency of TAs? For example, limiting it to 2 consistent TAs.

90sTrifle · 08/03/2026 20:36

EmeraldEcho · 08/03/2026 17:27

My son is 13 and in year 9 at a mainstream school. He has autism and adhd and he spent most of year 7 struggling massively, he had awful meltdowns basically everyday, he was given a reduced timetable as he just couldn't cope, he also hated school

At the start of year 8 he was allocated a TA, he isn't part of the school but he has been employed to be his TA, he's had a lot of experience with SEN children and adults but DS was his first in school support. To my surprise he bonded with him really well and ds really came on so well.

Toward the end of year 8 in the summer term he started taking ds to tesco where he buys ingredients for their cooking and ds also loves this and looks forward to that day, its also building his life skills and maths etc. DS calls him his best friend

This academic year however he's only with him for 3 days, mon-weds and on the Thursday and Friday he has a new TA. They said it was so he needed to bond with someone else if his main TA was off sick (we never had that last year thankfully).

the issue is she really doesn’t know how to deal with him

The first issue is he tells them he needs the toilet quite a lot even if he doesn't actually need it. When he's with his main TA, he encourages him to do a bit more work first (the times when he asks if he's only just gone 5 minutes ago as he uses it to get out of things he doesn't want to do) then takes him, he checks if anyone is in the boys toilets and if there is tells him to go in the disabled and waits for him then checks he's washed his hands. He really doesn't need anyone to do any more than that but in school he needs someone with him and the whole point of a 1:1 is to be with him all the time.

The woman however, tells him no you've already been do your work, I don't know the tone she's saying it in obviously but because he doesn't know when he's going he keeps asking and then meltdown. When he does go to the toilet she sends him alone and then he often goes back soaking wet so he's wetting himself, I initially thought it was water but his underwear is also soaking and it's definitely wee. He's in some mainstream classes now in some subjects so I'm worried about bullying.

He also gets distressed when he needs to get changed and that's another meltdown. He just doesn't seem to have bonded with her, there's also times where he's not on her rota for a Friday so he gets whoever's available and that causes problems too. The school say it's nothing to do with them it's the company and have said they will mention it but it keeps happening

On Wednesdays in his book it often says he’s been on edge all day and presumably because he knows what the next day will be like, we also have problems at home Wednesday evening. Then he's still fragile at the weekend too the smallest thing sets him off and it's only been this academic year. He's said multiple times he wants the main TA even at school during the meltdowns, at home I've tried to explain that he's busy working with other people but it doesn't really register and he's said in his own words he hates her, he hates school and “no school Thursday and friday” is a common saying from him he does always go but it feels mean and I'm also worrying those entire days he's at school

Wwyd?

@EmeraldEcho Your son has got very much attached to his main TA so much so he only wants him and no one else will ever be good enough. He’s not willing to be with anyone else whilst his main TA is in the school but not with him. I hate to say it but he’s manipulating the situation to get what he wants.

Octavia64 · 08/03/2026 20:23

You imply that the disabled toilets are separate cubicles within the boys and girls toilets.

if this is the case then a woman ta cannot go into the boys with him.

are there any disabled toilets where she can supervise more closely? Ie where it is one big room for example?

however at my school any kind of involvement with toileting was considered an “intimate care” and TAs who were paid extra to take on that responsibility did it. Students would need to wait until one was available.

what do you want to happen?

they won’t give him ta1 all the time even if ta1 is available because your child is clearly way over attached to him. You could ask for another male ta but that won’t necessarily solve the toilet problem as not all tas will be prepared to do that particularly if on a basic contract.

I do think you got a very accommodating ta last year and it’s not uncommon in these situations for the ta to burn out a little and ask to do fewer days in the future with that child just so they have some balance.

Tulipsriver · 08/03/2026 20:19

Having more than one 1:1 is fine (and it's probably a good idea... otherwise it would be much harder to manage if the existing TA left suddenly or was sick).

However, having a rubbish TA isn't acceptable.

If he needs 1:1 all day and is wetting himself when he is sent to the toilet alone, she is not doing a good enough job. To be honest, if she hasn't figured out the correlation between him going to the toilet alone and wetting himself and acted on this. I wouldn't trust her in any aspect of her job. Even if she hasn't been explicitly told to go with him, it only requires a basic amount of common sense for her to raise this and find out what the other TA does.

Be polite but very clear with the school that this is not acceptable.

EmeraldEcho · 08/03/2026 20:11

Vivienne1000 · 08/03/2026 19:59

One of my diabetics was assigned a TA. They soon got the measure of how said student was manipulating their levels and lying about their levels to get out of class. So the TA pushed back a little. This caused huge complaints from the student and consequently the parents. Good luck to them as they are setting their child up to fail.
we often say that those with an EHCP are untouchable and it’s causing problems for everyone.

How is that relevant to my post?

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EmeraldEcho · 08/03/2026 20:11

I have spoke to school many times since September but nothing has changed re the toilet as on Thursday and Friday he was wet again, he does have spare clothes in school kept in the medical room but he still gets really distressed about needing to get changed and has a meltdown. And as time has gone on the more anxious he's getting again, on Friday he had a different 1:1 again and she wrote in his book he threw himself off of his chair but didn't say why or what was happening before that etc. He obviously can’t do that as he could hurt himself or disrupt the class if there’s other students trying to work

I don't think it's possible for the other TA to shadow as mon-weds she's likely working elsewhere in the community or she's off. They only go to the school to work with ds.

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Vivienne1000 · 08/03/2026 19:59

One of my diabetics was assigned a TA. They soon got the measure of how said student was manipulating their levels and lying about their levels to get out of class. So the TA pushed back a little. This caused huge complaints from the student and consequently the parents. Good luck to them as they are setting their child up to fail.
we often say that those with an EHCP are untouchable and it’s causing problems for everyone.

JMSA · 08/03/2026 19:45

EmeraldEcho · 08/03/2026 19:44

It's in his EHCP that he needs 1:1, they're employed by a care company but last year was just the one and I wasn't told this year that he was going to get a different TA until it happened so I couldn't prepare him during the summer or anything

I'm also concerned about others making fun of him for wetting himself as he's gone into some mainstream classes now

Re your last paragraph, it’s only a matter of time. Really sorry 😢
I work in a secondary school and this needs sorted as a matter of urgency.

EmeraldEcho · 08/03/2026 19:44

It's in his EHCP that he needs 1:1, they're employed by a care company but last year was just the one and I wasn't told this year that he was going to get a different TA until it happened so I couldn't prepare him during the summer or anything

I'm also concerned about others making fun of him for wetting himself as he's gone into some mainstream classes now

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saraclara · 08/03/2026 19:18

There needs to be effective communication between TA1 and TA2. It doesn't sound as though any information on how to handle your son's needs and quirks have been passed between them.

I'd contact the school, make it clear that you recognise that he needs to get used to someone else, but ask for there to be a clear behaviour plan based on what TA1 has found to work, so that TA2 isn't put at a disadvantage, and your son has some consistency.

I have job shared classes in a special school, and consistency was all. Every single thing was noted, every meltdown, every sanction, every success, so that the person who picked up the class next know exactly what had happened before. And behaviour plans were super-detailed, so that the child got the same response whichever of us was managing them.

Icecreamandcoffee · 08/03/2026 19:05

I would have a chat with the school. Perhaps the 2nd TA could shadow the 1st TA for a week or they could meet and share strategies. Or the school may rotate TAs around to see if there is a better fit with another staff member. They will probably not assign TA1 to be DS's exclusive 1:1.

It is good practice for children with 1:1s to have more than 1 adult working with them in order to cover sickness, people leaving, staff training, swimming ect. It is also good for 1:1 staff retention and staff knowledge and skills to work with different children with different needs rather than just 1 child. Unfortunately having the same 1:1 all week last year has made him reliant on them and the school may chose to rotate TA1 to another child for a term or so to break the reliance.

Is TA1 agency/ long term supply or are they employed directly by the school? It is always good practice to make sure a long term supply does not become a sole 1:1 for a child as they can leave or have their contracts terminated at a moments notice.

drspouse · 08/03/2026 18:57

I do feel for you - he sounds a lot like my DS! In his second primary school he had up to 5 different people in a week and surprise suprise he didn't last there after having several meltdowns and being excluded.
He now has in his EHCP "maximum of 2" people as his TA. Does your DS have anything like that? What about the training specified?

Octavia64 · 08/03/2026 18:56

Ex teacher

my school did not have regular 1:1 TAs after a while except for very severe levels of need because the students get attached to them and it’s very difficult when it comes for time to move on.

in the same way that students need to get used to interacting with a wide variety of teachers compared to the one class teacher at primary, students with send do better if they can develop the skills to work with a variety of TAs.

obviously this is more challenging for some students than others. But all secondary schools would be looking to develop the ability to work with more than one ta.

it may be that this second ta is not a good fit for your son. But equally it is quite likely that your son has become very very reliant on the first ta and school are trying to develop his independence.

your child will have to leave the first ta when he leaves that school. It is better if this is done gradually over time than if it is done suddenly at the end of year 11.

Not2identifying · 08/03/2026 18:55

Do you know for certain that TA2 has been told the best response to a request to use the toilet to avoid things? And that she needs to escort him there?

I do feel for you both though.

TSW12 · 08/03/2026 18:54

herbalteabag · 08/03/2026 18:48

That is very unlikely to be a possibility as resources are very scarce!

That's true, a shame though if it could have helped.

Hankunamatata · 08/03/2026 18:52

My sons have TAs so I feel your pain.

He has become too reliant in his current TA.

Surely a meeting with senco and TA can iron out some of the issues with new TA.

#Ask she accompanies him to the toilet and that dc uses the diabled toilet as female TA cant go into the male toilets.
#include dc in meeting and agree that he takes no more than say 2 toilet breaks in a class (1 if you think more appropriate) and that she goes with him and waits.
#changing- one of my dc wears his pe kit to school so he doesnt have to change. He often takes a spare pe top, wipes and deodorant and will go to diabled loo, wipe and change his top so he doesnt smell.

herbalteabag · 08/03/2026 18:48

TSW12 · 08/03/2026 18:47

Did they have a crossover period where the new TA could learn from his regular TA? That way she could have watched and learnt and so could your son. Maybe this is still a possibility or maybe she could shadow them at the beginning of the week? Do you have any idea of plans for next year yet?

I feel for your son, he's had his stable school life disrupted through no fault of his own. I would ask for a meeting to discuss everything in detail so things can hopefully become easier for everyone involved.

That is very unlikely to be a possibility as resources are very scarce!

TSW12 · 08/03/2026 18:47

Did they have a crossover period where the new TA could learn from his regular TA? That way she could have watched and learnt and so could your son. Maybe this is still a possibility or maybe she could shadow them at the beginning of the week? Do you have any idea of plans for next year yet?

I feel for your son, he's had his stable school life disrupted through no fault of his own. I would ask for a meeting to discuss everything in detail so things can hopefully become easier for everyone involved.

Nofeckingway · 08/03/2026 18:40

Perhaps write down some of your son's routines for the second TA . Or if this feels too much perhaps ask if male TA can give a brief rundown of the usual things that helped your son . I understand this from both sides and it is often easily resolved . Simple things like a client prefering a certain glass or their apple peeled . Easily accommodated if the TA knows but can be upsetting for individual. He does need to be able to manage with different people as no one can guarantee 100% attendance of preferred TA.

herbalteabag · 08/03/2026 18:35

It probably is best that he is used to having more than one TA, because there is likely to come a time when that person isn't available, or is sick, or decides to leave, or whatever. You mention the company - are they using a supply agency for long term supply? There is also the possibility that any one TA could find it too intense to be with one student all the time.
If the second TA isn't a good fit though, I think you should tell the school and ask if there is someone else available, or ask for a meeting so that the problems this TA has when working with your son, like walking with him to the toilets etc, can be sorted.

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