To wonder why “new money” is so frowned upon in the UK?

Sorry for typo, that was meant to be “oh so amazing life”

I was just typing that people would respond positively to a new car but in a subtly undermining way - ‘oh isn’t it lovely! Aren’t you doing so well! I’m afraid there’s no way I could afford a new car until Piers gets expelled from Winchester haha - oh he’s really barely keeping up there, I worry about it every time they phone me’. At which point YOU are expected to undermine it yourself by saying ‘Oh God well DF popped his clogs of course and I inherited the car which he’d just bought like a fool, he was 92 so he never drove it. It’s a nightmare, drinks petrol, services cost a bomb…’

But realised that the exact quality of the undermining response will be class based too.

I bet you never talk to people who are "working class" or "lower middle class" . Do people actually refer to themselves in that way anyway? I have certainly never heard anyone do that.

So if someone is being criticised for being ‘new money’ it’s usually because they’re spending their money on things considered naff. The way footballers live is a good example.

I agree. This isn't aimed at a family with a nice house and new cars, it's the ones who spend it on a diamante lifestyle. Footballers is a good example - weekly barber trips and neck tattoos of crowns!

I think it’s how you display your wealth that’s the issue. We are quite well off from our own earned money, no family money. We are more estate car (for the dogs) and holidays in the New Forest type than Dubai and flashy car types. No designer clothes as not interested. You can only tell we’re well off if you see our house. And we ski every year. I’ve never come across any resentment. But maybe your wealth is significantly more than ours?

This. The class issue applies too, but being rich is not seen as a measure of worth in the UK to the extent that it may be elsewhere. It’s often associated in people’s minds with the black economy and various nefarious activities, particularly in the first generation.
Working hard and being successful is a great thing but being paid vastly more than other workers is a separate issue. It loses its cachet when the people we read about are water company bosses, landlords and MPs with multiple additional jobs.

Well LV is deemed pretty tacky as per the long running thread, it's certainly not classy.

Your post reveals why you are frowned upon, not new money. The lecture about depreciating assets of a car. You just couldn't help yourself, could you. That's the issue. It's the superiority attitude that some people with new money have and the way they put it all down to their exceptionally hard work, when we know plenty of people* *very hard with not the same financial rewards.

But your question seemed to be:

But why is there so much snobbery towards this in the UK? Many people on super low incomes would talk about my situation negatively in a way that would suggest they would rather chose a lifestyle with a modest income and fewer luxuries because it’s almost embarrassing to want more than this.

and you've clarified that it's generally not people around you with this attitude (apart from a couple of comments from family friends) but a general feeling on social media and MN etc that I’m describing.

So nothing to do with whether you, personally, are flashy.
So I don't see why you had to go into detail in your first post.
In fact, you could have just asked the question without mentioning your own circumstances if it's just "a general feeling on social media".
As I said, there's been a lot of threads just like this recently and it does make wonder what they're actually about.

I think it comes down to class. I come from a line of extremely wealthy people (well known family business) and we were taught thinks like you must eat your peas off the back of your fork and all the etiquette that is considered “classy” or whatever. It’s absolutely ridiculous in my opinion and I’m not like that with my children but that’s what at one point was expected. We were taught you don’t show off wit your money in the way of a huge Louis Vuitton bag covered in logos. It’s clear we have money but it’s not “in your face”. We have a yacht and two villas in the south of France and no one apart from our immediate family know!

I think people who are new money (some) go over the top and have branded designer everything. Huge logos everywhere, post it all over instagram etc to show off

i wouldnt say you sound like that at all OP.

Oooh please link!

I don't think what you're describing is 'looking down on new money'. Because that tends to mean when the traditional elite, the titled landed gentry, resent people having acquired a lot of wealth through business and suddenly appearing in their social circles without the right 'breeding'.
What you're describing is WC done well for themselves and ending up neither fish nor foul. You have enough money to move away from the things people you grew up with still do, the local school, the council estate, the struggle with budgeting, yet you still have similar culture to them, the holidays you choose, the clothes you wear are the sort of things they would choose, just a more expensive version. On the other side you have the 'solid MC' who'd no sooner go somewhere flashy than fly to the moon, as their interests lie in a different place.
The good news is, there's loads of WC people who've come up from council estates and have a bit of spare cash, so its just about finding your tribe.

This. I wonder if it’s more about the vulgarness of excessive spending and poor taste with some new money which people will judge and criticise for.

🤣🤣 that didn’t happen, you watch too much TV but I hope you’re enjoying your little Sunday morning escapism.

But by arriving in the expensive car (please tell me it was a RR) you are already making a statement

But that’s not a judgement on how wealth is accumulated, the OP seems to be saying that people look down on those who work hard and make good money. However I think you’ve hit on the truth - people look down on how money is spent rather than earned.

How would anyone know about your flashy car or whatever unless you were bragging about it?

You again. Wasn’t last night’s thread enough for you?

None of the people I’m talking about are my friends or acquaintances. And I’m sure you understand your friends and acquaintances aren’t an exact microcosm of society.

You could have made your point with a lot less detail.

Your post reads like you just want to tell us about your “oh so amazing point” rather than have a proper discussion.

I think if you talk / act like this in real life, it maybe the case that that what people don’t like.

You can be rich and discreet, at the same time.

What do you mean by “living frugally”? A Radley or Coach bag as opposed to an LV?