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Enjoying quiet drink & elder man approaches

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IndigoBluey · 07/03/2026 23:54

I had a much needed free and solo afternoon today. Went for a long walk in the sun, coffee, just enjoyed being by myself for once. I was keen to see the rugby score and so stopped off for a drink in a local pub by myself. I am a 34 year old woman. It was such a fun atmosphere. Until, an older guy, maybe 70 saddled up to my table and started to engage in chat. I wasn’t in the mood, I was really keen to watch the match and this was the final ten minutes. He asked a few questions and when I didn’t answer he just stood right by me where I was sat down looking and smiling. I felt really awkward and aware that others in the pub were looking now. He then asked my name and I quite directly told him I just want to watch the match. He then left in a huff. I felt a little bad after, thinking maybe I was rude and worse, he was lonely and wanted some chat but then there were other older men on their own standing at the bar so he could have chatted with them. Anyway off he went and I left after the match ended about 15 minutes later to walk home and saw him on the corner of the street five minutes along, fine as it it a small town but awkward as he clocked me. Was I rude or is it fine to say no thanks to chat to random people

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YourFirmCoralBiscuit · 11/03/2026 06:17

user1464187087 · 10/03/2026 23:06

None of those things happened to the OP either.
The man sounds like an absolute creep and i'm sorry the OP felt like she did.
I do go to pubs / beer gardens alone and take a good book to read and have a beer or a glass of wine. I've previously had men approach me and just told them to go away. It's not nice if you have to be more assertive than that admittedly.
The OP could have also spoken to the bar staff because she felt uncomfortable.
Bar staff are trained in a service called 'Ask For Angela'. Which is a good scheme.

Yes, I agree. So then I am not sure why you posted that you would be "afraid to be a man" and would have to avoid eye contact etc? Women face harassment and potential violence at the hands of men far more than the other way around so why would you be afraid to be male? Men are the aggressors here, not women.

Noone is saying he should have avoided eye contact and kept his head down, we merely said, he should have immediately backed off when OP blanked him and made it clear she didnt want to talk. Also, that women are entitled to go to a pub on their own without being approached by men trying it on.

GameofPhones · 11/03/2026 02:18

"Oh you look familiar" sounds like an opening chat-up line, too. To be followed up with flattery like "You remind me of Marilyn Monroe" or some such.

user1464187087 · 10/03/2026 23:06

YourFirmCoralBiscuit · 10/03/2026 20:52

Why? nothing happened to this bloke in the OP's story did it? he wasnt beaten up, he wasnt verbally or sexually abused, he wasnt raped, he wasnt murdered. Women, on the other hand, regularly have these things done to them at the hands of men and sometimes because they dare to turn a man down in a bar on a night out.

If you are more scared of some comments on an internet forum than being raped or murdered then your faux "fear" is clearly misplaced and deeply ridiculous isnt it?

None of those things happened to the OP either.
The man sounds like an absolute creep and i'm sorry the OP felt like she did.
I do go to pubs / beer gardens alone and take a good book to read and have a beer or a glass of wine. I've previously had men approach me and just told them to go away. It's not nice if you have to be more assertive than that admittedly.
The OP could have also spoken to the bar staff because she felt uncomfortable.
Bar staff are trained in a service called 'Ask For Angela'. Which is a good scheme.

LouiseMadetheBestBroccoliPasta · 10/03/2026 21:52

ExBert80 · 10/03/2026 20:20

On a hot day I sometimes think I might pop in that pub and sit in the garden, or just go in for a sandwich and drink. But I never do. Because I worry that I will either get talked about by the clientele or get bothered. I can’t be the only one. That is the only reason women don’t solo drink in pubs.

I am going to change that. I am going to make a point of going into one.

Love this! :)

I'm going to do it too, for the younger ones!

EvieBB · 10/03/2026 21:49

Doteycat · 10/03/2026 11:11

Personally i think telling him to fuck right off would be better.

I'd have to have been there to know how to react. If he was just trying to chat then it's far more reasonable to say what I said above. If he was being leery and weird then yes maybe a fuck off would be better. Depends on the context....

HippityHoppityHay · 10/03/2026 21:46

user1464187087 · 10/03/2026 20:17

I would be scared to be a man nowadays, rather than a woman.
I would keep my head down, not make eye contact and not utter a word to anyone.

Balderdash.
It's not about avoiding eye contact - it's about male entitlement.
The kind that makes some men think they are entitled to approach a complete stranger in a restaurant because she is a woman on her own.
Most men don't do this because they know it is inappropriate, unwelcome and unsettling.

Harhar · 10/03/2026 21:26

Doteycat · 10/03/2026 21:22

Tbf if they could all do that it would be great thanks.
They. Just. Keep. Breathing.

Right? It’d be delightful if they could just keep themselves to themselves but to claim they should be scared of being told no is a little galling!

Doteycat · 10/03/2026 21:22

Harhar · 10/03/2026 20:21

Why?

Tbf if they could all do that it would be great thanks.
They. Just. Keep. Breathing.

YourFirmCoralBiscuit · 10/03/2026 20:54

If you were a man you should probably be scared of violence from other men

Indeed- men should be most scared of other men. Its men that commit most acts of violence and murder

YourFirmCoralBiscuit · 10/03/2026 20:52

user1464187087 · 10/03/2026 20:17

I would be scared to be a man nowadays, rather than a woman.
I would keep my head down, not make eye contact and not utter a word to anyone.

Why? nothing happened to this bloke in the OP's story did it? he wasnt beaten up, he wasnt verbally or sexually abused, he wasnt raped, he wasnt murdered. Women, on the other hand, regularly have these things done to them at the hands of men and sometimes because they dare to turn a man down in a bar on a night out.

If you are more scared of some comments on an internet forum than being raped or murdered then your faux "fear" is clearly misplaced and deeply ridiculous isnt it?

Comtesse · 10/03/2026 20:43

user1464187087 · 10/03/2026 20:17

I would be scared to be a man nowadays, rather than a woman.
I would keep my head down, not make eye contact and not utter a word to anyone.

Don’t interrupt people when they’re watching telly then. This chap didn’t try interrupting the other men watching the rugby (wouldn’t dare more like).

Harhar · 10/03/2026 20:34

The only thing men have to be scared of is being held accountable for their actions.

Pallisers · 10/03/2026 20:29

I would be scared to be a man nowadays, rather than a woman.
I would keep my head down, not make eye contact and not utter a word to anyone.

you mean just like a lot of women do to avoid unwanted male attention?

What would you be scared of as a man? Being arrested for talking to a woman in a pub? Let me set your mind at ease. it isn't going to happen. Do you think the man who talked to OP was scared when she didn't engage?? seriously?

If you were a man you should probably be scared of violence from other men. Same fear women have.

Bluedenimdoglover · 10/03/2026 20:27

Don't give it a second thought. You didn't want his company and that's totally up to you.

Harhar · 10/03/2026 20:21

user1464187087 · 10/03/2026 20:17

I would be scared to be a man nowadays, rather than a woman.
I would keep my head down, not make eye contact and not utter a word to anyone.

Why?

ExBert80 · 10/03/2026 20:20

On a hot day I sometimes think I might pop in that pub and sit in the garden, or just go in for a sandwich and drink. But I never do. Because I worry that I will either get talked about by the clientele or get bothered. I can’t be the only one. That is the only reason women don’t solo drink in pubs.

I am going to change that. I am going to make a point of going into one.

user1464187087 · 10/03/2026 20:17

HippityHoppityHay · 10/03/2026 20:06

Women opt out of going to many places alone because of sleazy men.
I've traveled alone on business many times and was often bothered by creepy men in restaurants just because I was on my own.
They're predatory men.
A normal guy would not approach a lone woman in a restaurant because they know it's not appropriate and unsettling.

I would be scared to be a man nowadays, rather than a woman.
I would keep my head down, not make eye contact and not utter a word to anyone.

QuintadosMalvados · 10/03/2026 20:16

HippityHoppityHay · 10/03/2026 20:06

Women opt out of going to many places alone because of sleazy men.
I've traveled alone on business many times and was often bothered by creepy men in restaurants just because I was on my own.
They're predatory men.
A normal guy would not approach a lone woman in a restaurant because they know it's not appropriate and unsettling.

Now to be fair, I do agree with you here. A restaurant is not a place people tend to go to mix with others outside of the table they're sitting at.

So fair comment.

HippityHoppityHay · 10/03/2026 20:06

QuintadosMalvados · 10/03/2026 19:06

No not internalised misogyny, just observation.
I went to the pub with dh this afternoon.
There were about twenty people in there.
A few groups of men, a few groups of women, a couple of mixed sex groups.
Four men sitting alone.
Not one female sitting alone.
This was over the course of 2 hours.

I maintain that, generally speaking, women do not go to pubs to sit alone.

If you wish to label misogyny, fine your choice. I call it realism.

I should add that this is not a rough pub at all. It's in quite a cosmopolitan area.

Just because a few women go to pubs alone, does not mean the majority do.

Women opt out of going to many places alone because of sleazy men.
I've traveled alone on business many times and was often bothered by creepy men in restaurants just because I was on my own.
They're predatory men.
A normal guy would not approach a lone woman in a restaurant because they know it's not appropriate and unsettling.

QuintadosMalvados · 10/03/2026 20:02

LouiseMadetheBestBroccoliPasta · 10/03/2026 19:27

@QuintadosMalvados

"I maintain that, generally speaking, women do not go to pubs to sit alone."

You are labouring under a logical fallacy: "all women go to pubs in groups" does not mean "all women don't want to go to pubs alone".

Like: French people love cheese; John loves cheese; therefore, John is French.

I've finally noted that your name contains malvados, which means mean-spirited. Thanks for playing, you've shown very clearly all women who have read here what internalised misogyny looks like: mean-spirited.

The pub I refer to has a very, very good reputation for not tolerating any misogyny. It's a very politically correct place.
Indeed it is very near a Russell Group university.
Yet not one single female drinking alone. Not one.

N. B. To be frank, I had no idea what 'Malvados' meant: my dh loves port - as do I- and there was a bottle on the table when I picked my username.

It seems a bit weird that you've 'noted' this but then with the level of what I perceive to be largely misplaced paranoia generally displayed on this thread that men are just lecherous pigs and we can't go outside without being accosted by them to the extent we can't ever go for a drink alone, I'm not surprised.

Firefly1987 · 10/03/2026 19:53

@YourFirmCoralBiscuit did the OP say "enjoy your evening"? then why should the guy? Maybe he was just matching her energy.

YourFirmCoralBiscuit · 10/03/2026 19:48

Firefly1987 · 10/03/2026 19:48

Well he left and removed his coat which is what everyone wanted.

Yes, but not graciously and not politely. Hence the point!

Firefly1987 · 10/03/2026 19:48

YourFirmCoralBiscuit · 10/03/2026 09:04

She wasn’t rude though, she told him she just wanted to watch the match. Thats not remotely rude. Thats when he huffed off and removed his coat from her chair.

Most polite people at that point would have said no worries, enjoy your evening.

Edited

Well he left and removed his coat which is what everyone wanted.

YourFirmCoralBiscuit · 10/03/2026 19:46

It's atrocious how you're stereotyping women. It tracks with your assertion, "also I firmly believe that women can't be friends". You have a bad case of internalised misogyny. Internalised misogyny is almost as harmful to women as the misogyny women have to endure from men

Yes, it's really quite disturbing. The misogyny is off the scale

YourFirmCoralBiscuit · 10/03/2026 19:44

QuintadosMalvados · 10/03/2026 15:34

You've really gone full reductio ad absurdum here.
We are not talking about 50-year-old men letching after 14-year-old girls. Something we can all agree is disgusting.

We're talking about a fully grown adult 34-year-old woman being chatted up by an older man.

Nobody in their right mind would think the two are the same.

Older man tries to chat up younger yet fully mature woman who rebuffs him and he leaves her alone.

(I probably shouldn't have said that-somebody will come along and tell me 34-year-old women's brains aren't fully developed - or something.)

I am referring to your ridiculous comment that "men dont chat up women who they dont think will give them a chance"

That is a completely untrue statement and I have illustrated it by pointing out I was sleazed over at age 14 by men who knew darned well they "didnt have a chance" with me. What a ridiculous statement you made there!!

I note you havent referred to the rest of my point though. I wonder what excuse you'll make for this creep next!