Enjoying quiet drink & elder man approaches

Maybe he thought you looked kind.

Hear hear. I agree with every word.

And just like a real life pub at the end of the night “Thank fuck he’s finally gone!”

Well the point is that alcohol alters people's perceptions. That's an inarguable fact. The drink she had could have been a double Scotch.

Look I don't know what that guy's intentions were that night, and nor does anyone else here.
I'm just not quick to assume he's an old lech that's all.

Talking about pubs, this thread is now like people standing around a pub bar well after everybody else has gone home.

Time I went home.

I think No. 2 was from one of the first male-apologist pretzellers in the thread - I remember they said something like men are simple creatures, so they can't see body language. Poor amoeba men, so limited that they are unable to find their way through a pub without accidentally sleazing on someone who is coincidentally a young woman and not a bearded big-bellied bald bloke.

But I have a replacement for No. 2: OP herself was drunk, so her recollection of being slimed on was wrong. That was from a few pages back 😂

Nope not all of those are mine. I would, however, like to add that aliens from the planet Zog temporarily overtook his mind via remote control to my own personal list.

Can they take their coats off?

haha! excuse number 8 coming up 😂

Maybe he was a ghost. Seems implausible but you never know eh?

Then he is surely old enough to just sit somewhere else until OP left. I highly doubt his name was on the seat.

OP said there were plenty of lone men and groups he could have talked to and that she is a regular there.

The excuses made for people who could just leave others alone in a public place especially when they have been given about every sign to be left alone is ridiculous.

The type of behaviour from such men is why women have chosen to stop being polite because regardless how we tell men to leave us be, it is somehow our fault and not theirs and xyz reasons why they should get the benefit of the doubt when all they have to do is leave strangers alone.

Women rarely do this to each other ime, yet women should put up with such behaviour from men when men themselves wouldn’t put up with it from other men in most cases.

His actions with the coat made him even more rude and I would have moved his coat to another seat further away and sat back down and continued watching the game.

So, the excuses we've had so far from you for this old creep are:

1. He was drunk
2. He didnt have anywhere to put his coat
3. He doesnt understand body language because he's male
4. He was in a pub so all women are fair game and women shouldnt go to pubs if they dont want men sleazing over them
5. Halo effect phenomenon (which you applied incorrectly and didnt understand fully)
6. OP was in his seat
7. He might be a silver fox and lots of women want to date men old enough to be their grandad

What absolute garbage 😂

Good point.
It's not that he picked that seat for the night it's that he was a regular and he was territorial over that particular seat.
Sounds far-fetched? It isn't. I know men just like this.
All kinds of passive aggressiveness towards people who are in 'their' seat.
It's absolutely ridiculous that they are like this, but it's a bit like people who think they own the road outside their house.
Even if not that (since OP has not returned, I can't ask) but I wonder if there were any other seats because it could have been that he just wanted to sit down and hoping that she- as a much younger person- would take the hint and get up.
Disagree? Fair enough. Makes a change from the old perv theory. 😁

Many men DO absolutely think a woman’s sole purpose is to tend to their needs.

So, he either deludedly fancied his chances, or thought alone woman = her job is to listen to me bleat on about myself.

In my job I come across a lot of middle age and older men. Many of them think I’m there to listen to them bang on about bollocks or stroke their ego. I’m surprised I’ve had no complaints about me because I don’t entertain it. I’m not rude, but I give one word answers or say “I must get on, I’m so busy”.

I’ve got some serious stress in my life at the moment and it boils down to a couple of widowed relatives (male) who now think I’m their defacto wife and it’s my job to listen to them moaning and attend to their every need.

Men are draining.

I'm sorry but you only have to look at the thread title - what's his age mentioned for? Is it just to be factual or to indicate he's past it?

Because some old fart more than twice her age tried to force her to pay attention to him by asking her questions, putting his coat on her chair (a dominance move), standing over her for a while, and generally encroaching in her space when it was clear he was not welcome.

The kind of misogynist who feels owed attention from women doesn't deserve all the mental gymnastics you're going through to defend his inappropriate and rude behaviour.

It's remarkable. Pattern recognition, it's what we're good at. For reasons.

Yessssssssss. Curious isn't it? 🤔 😁

@EstherGreenwood63 you were right, I did get deleted (as did you, again). Defend men at all cost but don’t want to be accused of sounding like one.

Men don’t all suddenly become sweet lonely grandads as they age. Some of them have been abusive twats their whole lives and just got wrinkled. I used to manage a bar… he knows what he was doing and you weren’t rude.

OP should have hung it on the floor for him.

Yep I agree. Giving someone even a half smile is an encouragement for them to approach you more, its not a deterrent 😆

Some people in this thread keep excusing men by saying they dont recognise body language and cant figure it out so why on earth would you half smile at them? thats just going to confuse the poor idiots isnt it and make them pester you even more. I certainly wont be half smiling at random strange men who try to invade my personal space.

At 56 years of age i am SO done giving some dope a 'half smile'. It makes me cringe even thinking of it. I dont do it.
Look em square in the eye and say 'im watching the match- im reading, im working'. Whichever.
And if he dont fuckoff, ill tell him to.
I do not owe them any fake half smile lest i offend them.
They offend me.

More equal economic opportunity for women. Control over their fertility. Control over their physical body rather than being a bangmaid. The ability to leave an unhappy marriage. More protection against male violence. Control over their time and energy. Breaking down their own patriarchy-acculturated thinking and seeing other women as allies and friends rather than as competitors for male approval. The ability to live a dignified life independent of men.

That's just a few.

The men might catch up. Patriarchy hurts them too.

I know that this is a public forum and anybody can reply, however, this is in response to a direct question that is not purely about the some men are pricks theme cause yeah we know that already. In fact, I knew that before I read this thread.

Most, however, are respectful most of the time.

That's just my experience, 99.9% of the time, they don't demand my time. The ones who have, got very short shrift I can tell you.

Another point is this: if men are still utter douchebags, what's the last 60 years of feminism achieved?
Serious question.

Well if he had any thoughts for her at all he would ot have pressed on. So she shouldn't have had to ignore him for long because he'd have moved away left her alone.

How often do you approach, then keep talking to, randoms who clearly don't want talk to you?

Its so OBVIOUSLY creepy as in unwanted , not necessarily a dangerous pervert-we can't tell - but unpleasant, unwanted, inappropriate Plenty of other blokes in the pub yet he picks on the lone female.

Why why why would anyone think its ok to just loom at her like that??? If she had wanted company she'd have gone and stood at the bar. Where there was company. Obviously.