What is considered rich these days??

Rich is genuinely the same as it has always been - if you have good health, a loving family and great friends , no worries about food in the fridge and a roof over your head then you are richer than the majority of the world. All too often this gets forgotten in the race to beat the Joneses. Many billionaires would sacrifice some of their millions for any of the above if they were without them ; not many people would sacrifice health or family for money.

HumblebragsRUs here.

I’m not rich by any means, but I worked in a small office where I was better paid than some, and I remember one staff member having a massive go because I didn’t know when we got paid (I didn’t) - she and most other staff spent most of the month in the red and relied on credit and going into the black for a few days per month to survive. It was a humbling experience

I think it depends on your circle? We would be called well off here but I certainly don’t feel it when we’re with our friends or wider circle.

Of course you are rich.

You have the right to be offended by anything. But you're not poor.

you are well off, not rich.
Rich is when people have millions and genuinely don’t budget at all.

your SIL is rude and her snarky comments are unacceptable

OMG not again

Not relevant, you relied on free childcare and were still “SKINT” after working and benefiting off said free childcare and then you have the nerve to throw “why have children you can’t afford” to others.

Don’t make shitty statements to people when you don’t have your own house in order.

I think your budgeting and others is probably v different. Youre not having to choose between food on the table and heating etc

Working hard is what a lot of people on min wage do as well.
I imagine you're seen as rich/well off to many

You aren’t unreasonable to be irritated by SIL’s repeated comments.

You are unreasonable to ask us whether you are rich without telling us your net worth.

You are certainly high-income.

£160k a year is deemed the top 1%

Its a question of who you are comparing yourself too? To some you are rich to others maybe not! But you sound comfortably off to me.

Unsure if you understand the concept of family?

OP - my husband does similar work although we live in the South East so higher costs. I think it is all relative - but I wouldn't consider you rich in real terms.
I think you're well off.

And - if private school fees were proportionate to what they used to be to your husband's salary - I think maybe 15 years ago or more - you might have had the ability to become wealthy by buying assets or having a lot of savings. Now not so much. I don't know how old your children are but the private fees can really rise in secondary school. Much of what you describe is what the upper middles or successful middles would have taken for granted in the 60s and 70s. This is just my opinion.

The truly rich have land, assets and don't have to budget. Family wealth that can be passed on easily and might extend down to grand children and great grandchildren. We have extended family who benefitted from that. That to my mind is real wealth (without being an oligarch). When your maiden aunt can bequeath a Manor House to one son as the other will inherit the farm kinda thing. However, you live a life of ease compared to the huge majority of the country. I didn't work when my children were little and was very aware as I'm sure you are that this alone is a huge indicator of affluence in modern life.

Very goady thread. Hark at all the women who are happy to be provided for by their DH’s earnings.

Depends where you live and how expensive it is, but I would say if you are able to have the lifestyle you say and kids in private school then you’re well off. Nothing wrong with that. I would say budgeting for you is different to budgeting for someone on less, or someone on more 🤷🏻‍♀️ personally I hate talking about money and avoid it at all costs unless it’s with DH, or with investments occasionally my dad. I just find it awkward when people bring it’ll up. Especially as a general observation of you do this do therefore you must be… it’s yuk

It just sounds like you're showing off and drive a chav mobile

Good on you and hubby for getting a good education, not everyone gets the opportunity. I don't work and hubby earns less that 50k. Our mortgage is paid off, but my hubby would like to retire, just 4 years early, and we can't afford for him to do so. We have a decent holiday every year and mainly do ok, but my car is a VW UP and hubby has a van and a motorbike. That said I know some VERY rich people and would never mention their money to them. It's theirs they earned it through hard work and savvy investments.
I do think you are being a bit blinkered where your SIL is concerned though, you live a very different life to her and seem unable to acknowledge that.

Relying on free childcare is having children you can’t afford, it’s ridiculous for you to throw that comment around to other people given you needed the free labour of other people to subsidise your lifestyle.

Sure you have.

Why don’t you work @Soccermomsavestheday? Even if you don’t need to? However much ny husband earns I always wanted to have my own income and work is part of my identity.
Children are only small for a period of time and even then private schools have longer hours and offera wraparound care. And most activities are included. My DH i divide most tasks between us.

To be able to pay the ever increasing bills for just the basics in life withough going hungry or going into debt would make me feel wealthy. Am wondering why you need Range Rovers, two of them , though? lol
Are you farmers?

I consider myself rich because I have enough money to afford the lifestyle I want without worrying about it or working. But my lifestyle is not very extravagant. Numbers are a bit meaningless, baseline costs vary so much. I’ve been a very high earner and unemployed and I feel richer now than at any point inmy life. OP your post is completely ridiculous as your family has a high income and high costs, but everyone budgets. Your SIL is an arsehole but you are very privileged and do come across as out of touch.

It’s truly subjective. To the outside world I probably appear rich. But I don’t feel particularly rich financially. I’ve been a SAHM since I had DD2 and we have a nice lifestyle. But that’s mostly because I worked like a mad woman before I had my DDs when I was 41 & 42. I’m a single parent and I chose to Home Educate so I was able to spend a great deal of time with my now teenage DDs. We are all in good health, we’ve traveled the world together, we’ve had some unforgettable experiences…and a lot of movie nights at home 🙏🏻 That’s truly how I feel rich.

The barrister thing. Oh OP you’ve embarrassed yourself 🤣😭