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What is considered rich these days??

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Soccermomsavestheday · 07/03/2026 22:55

So my husband and I live a pretty decent life but not one that warrants being called ‘financially out of touch’ and ‘how the other half live’ in my opinion which is just a couple of example of my sil many comments towards us.

My husband earns around £250k a year, I don’t have to work so don’t. We live in a nice 4 bedroom detached house with a lovely sized wrap around garden. We’re lucky enough to send our children to private school. We don’t go on extravagant holidays or wear high end designer clothes etc. We both drive Range Rovers but one is second hand (5 years old). And bottom line we have worked really hard to be where we are but don’t consider ourselves ‘Rich’ more so comfortable that we can live a modest life without financial restraints

it really bugs me when she says stuff like ‘you wouldn’t know what it’s like to budget’ and ‘it’s alright for some’ etc. I do budget monthly and am very much aware of how much things costs etc

Am I being unreasonable in this situation?

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OneBreezyHelper · 08/03/2026 01:19

answersonly · 08/03/2026 01:06

We do choose to pay for private schools etc but it’s planned and budgeted and we go without in other places as the children’s schooling is a high priority for us a family. All families have their priorities and they vary but that is ours for various reasons.

I do a lot of volunteering with an organisation that works with families that are on the absolute bones of their arses, like can barely afford to turn on the hob, if they have a working one, to make dinner for the family. I can assure you that a very large percentage of them place every bit as much importance on their children's schooling as you do. It's also a high priority for them as a family. Being able to afford to send your kids to private school (as you are and as I did) does not in any way, shape or form denote that you place a higher value on your children and their education than people who can't, it just means you have more money.

That attitude fucks me right off and is starting to give me some real sympathy for your s-i-l.

You are being unfair, because you know that wasn't where the comparaison was.

It's still true that many families who could at a push chose private education decide not to. Not saying they're wrong (and in many cases I believe they are right frankly.)

but it's absolutely true that some families prioritise education and others don't.

How many also decide to buy a house based on the school catchment and only based on the school catchment? Same thing. No one is saying everyone can afford to do that either.

takealettermsjones · 08/03/2026 01:19

Confuserr · 08/03/2026 01:16

I didn't call him/her dim, just said it was a dim take.

Do you agree with PP that all siblings have exactly equal earning capacities? I think that's such a silly opinion that I was struggling to find a nice word to describe it. I guess in court I might say it's a "rather surprising submission", not a "dim take".

Haha "rather surprising submission" made me laugh, in the same way I used to say something was "a remarkable coincidence" 😂

answersonly · 08/03/2026 01:18

Soccermomsavestheday · 08/03/2026 01:09

I’m sorry you’ve been angered
you’ve misread or misconstrued it but I’m not here for arguing so will leave you with your interpretation

No. Read your words. I've reacted to exactly what you wrote.

You have a really odd passive-aggressive style of communication.

Confuserr · 08/03/2026 01:16

Soccermomsavestheday · 08/03/2026 01:11

Why do you call everyone dim?
Why not be supportive?
or at least be respectful with your comments

You claim to be a barrister but you’re coming across very uneducated

I didn't call him/her dim, just said it was a dim take.

Do you agree with PP that all siblings have exactly equal earning capacities? I think that's such a silly opinion that I was struggling to find a nice word to describe it. I guess in court I might say it's a "rather surprising submission", not a "dim take".

nomas · 08/03/2026 01:16

cshp · 08/03/2026 01:14

I do find these comments odd though particularly on mumsnet... smacks of jealousy, given we are all aware of the load women hold whether children, household or otherwise.

The point is her post is all about money but she isn’t bringing in the money and bragging about her husband who does. It’s uncouth.

Whatwerewetalkingabout · 08/03/2026 01:15

Put it this way, your after tax take home pay is more than a "set for life" jackpot lottery win...

Yes you are very wealthy. You can afford to send 2 children to private school on one salary for a start. I came from a working class background and feel very privileged and comfortable with a joint £80k (before tax) salary and that I can afford to work part time while DC is small, (we also have post grad degrees) how did you come from working class backgrounds and not recognise how incredibly privileged you are?

Did you come out of uni and just hit the ground running into lucrative careers perhaps and never experience any of your adult life on a tiny budget? That's the only way I can phathom you might be so out of touch. We spent many years genuinely penniless in our early 20s trying to establish our careers before we started earning enough to start a savings account for a housing deposit. After we got on the housing ladder life started getting more comfortable in our 30s.

randomchap · 08/03/2026 01:15

OneBreezyHelper · 08/03/2026 01:14

posters are always blaming all the usual barriers to social mobility to justify their situation,

harder to do when it's between siblings, but it's always easier to find excuses and blame everybody else isn't it.

Your posts do amuse me

answersonly · 08/03/2026 01:15

Soccermomsavestheday · 08/03/2026 01:11

Why do you call everyone dim?
Why not be supportive?
or at least be respectful with your comments

You claim to be a barrister but you’re coming across very uneducated

Why should someone be supportive of an ableist and unpleasant, and yes, dim, take?

cshp · 08/03/2026 01:14

patooties · 08/03/2026 00:32

In what way do you work hard. Given you do not work ?

I do find these comments odd though particularly on mumsnet... smacks of jealousy, given we are all aware of the load women hold whether children, household or otherwise.

OneBreezyHelper · 08/03/2026 01:14

Confuserr · 08/03/2026 01:08

Your experience of families must be extraordinarily limited if you think all siblings have exactly the same earning potential.

Honestly it's such a dim take, there's no point arguing with it.

posters are always blaming all the usual barriers to social mobility to justify their situation,

harder to do when it's between siblings, but it's always easier to find excuses and blame everybody else isn't it.

nomas · 08/03/2026 01:14

Soccermomsavestheday · 08/03/2026 01:11

Why do you call everyone dim?
Why not be supportive?
or at least be respectful with your comments

You claim to be a barrister but you’re coming across very uneducated

Are you calling her a liar?

nomas · 08/03/2026 01:13

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Yep

Boring now.

Soccermomsavestheday · 08/03/2026 01:11

Confuserr · 08/03/2026 01:08

Your experience of families must be extraordinarily limited if you think all siblings have exactly the same earning potential.

Honestly it's such a dim take, there's no point arguing with it.

Why do you call everyone dim?
Why not be supportive?
or at least be respectful with your comments

You claim to be a barrister but you’re coming across very uneducated

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Soccermomsavestheday · 08/03/2026 01:09

answersonly · 08/03/2026 01:06

We do choose to pay for private schools etc but it’s planned and budgeted and we go without in other places as the children’s schooling is a high priority for us a family. All families have their priorities and they vary but that is ours for various reasons.

I do a lot of volunteering with an organisation that works with families that are on the absolute bones of their arses, like can barely afford to turn on the hob, if they have a working one, to make dinner for the family. I can assure you that a very large percentage of them place every bit as much importance on their children's schooling as you do. It's also a high priority for them as a family. Being able to afford to send your kids to private school (as you are and as I did) does not in any way, shape or form denote that you place a higher value on your children and their education than people who can't, it just means you have more money.

That attitude fucks me right off and is starting to give me some real sympathy for your s-i-l.

I’m sorry you’ve been angered
you’ve misread or misconstrued it but I’m not here for arguing so will leave you with your interpretation

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Confuserr · 08/03/2026 01:08

OneBreezyHelper · 08/03/2026 01:03

Assuming there's no health issue, I find it hard to believe that your siblings couldn't do a similar job OR a job with a similar income in a different area OR start their own business and earn similar and so on.

You can have a successful plumbing business and earn more than a barrister.

At some point, it becomes a choice and when you all have access to the same school, same education.

Your experience of families must be extraordinarily limited if you think all siblings have exactly the same earning potential.

Honestly it's such a dim take, there's no point arguing with it.

answersonly · 08/03/2026 01:07

Confuserr · 08/03/2026 01:03

I don't want to be too alluring but I inherited mine retirement from a QC who bought it in the 60s - it's both musty AND yellow. Especially the little rat tail bits 🙊

I'm blaming the fact that I have terrible jet lag (which is why I'm awake right now) for the fact that I found that very funny, and of course, just a little hot.

PruthePrune · 08/03/2026 01:07

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Soccermomsavestheday · 08/03/2026 01:06

Sensiblesal · 08/03/2026 00:56

‘We have worked really hard’

you don’t have a job.

I’m sorry but even if my husband earnt enough for me to not work, I still would

I have many ‘jobs’ as a mother

I love that us women have the choice now a days. I totally respect that some women would work regardless. You must do what makes you happy

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OneBreezyHelper · 08/03/2026 01:06

Bigcat25 · 08/03/2026 00:56

My simple definition would be having enough to never work again. How much that is would depend on your yearly spending habits. This is probably a more modest benchmark than most though.

I think it's the best definition of the thread.

If you have to get up to go to work to pay the bills, and your lifestyle would be catastrophically impacted if you ever had a long illness or were unable to work for longer than your workplace would pay your full salary, I don't believe you are "rich".

answersonly · 08/03/2026 01:06

Soccermomsavestheday · 08/03/2026 00:58

I get that. I really didn’t mean to offend anyone or come across that I didn’t think I lived a nice life. It was more that I didn’t consider myself to be ‘rich’

We do choose to pay for private schools etc but it’s planned and budgeted and we go without in other places as the children’s schooling is a high priority for us a family. All families have their priorities and they vary but that is ours for various reasons.

Thank you for this x

We do choose to pay for private schools etc but it’s planned and budgeted and we go without in other places as the children’s schooling is a high priority for us a family. All families have their priorities and they vary but that is ours for various reasons.

I do a lot of volunteering with an organisation that works with families that are on the absolute bones of their arses, like can barely afford to turn on the hob, if they have a working one, to make dinner for the family. I can assure you that a very large percentage of them place every bit as much importance on their children's schooling as you do. It's also a high priority for them as a family. Being able to afford to send your kids to private school (as you are and as I did) does not in any way, shape or form denote that you place a higher value on your children and their education than people who can't, it just means you have more money.

That attitude fucks me right off and is starting to give me some real sympathy for your s-i-l.

randomchap · 08/03/2026 01:05

Soccermomsavestheday · 08/03/2026 01:03

That was what I came here to decipher 😝

You are rich then. I'm honestly surprised you didn't know that

Mimicking · 08/03/2026 01:05

Well you certainly don't fall into the poverty bracket!

It's hard when people feel you can't possibly struggle because you're comfortable.

For me, rich is peace of mind - not worrying if the car or boiler breaks down because you can absorb the cost. To some it means owning a yacht and a mansion.

Your sil is showing her envious streak by making comments about your lifestyle. It's on her, not you.

Confuserr · 08/03/2026 01:03

answersonly · 08/03/2026 00:59

I particularly like the really mangy ones. So sexy (fanning myself) 😂

I don't want to be too alluring but I inherited mine retirement from a QC who bought it in the 60s - it's both musty AND yellow. Especially the little rat tail bits 🙊

OneBreezyHelper · 08/03/2026 01:03

Confuserr · 08/03/2026 00:55

It's not ridiculous at all. Mbappé was born with specific physical and mental abilities which made him able to do a job which pays well.

Here's another example if you didn't like that one. I'm a barrister, neither my brother nor my sister, however hard they worked, could ever do my job, or indeed any job which could lead to a comparable income.

Assuming there's no health issue, I find it hard to believe that your siblings couldn't do a similar job OR a job with a similar income in a different area OR start their own business and earn similar and so on.

You can have a successful plumbing business and earn more than a barrister.

At some point, it becomes a choice and when you all have access to the same school, same education.

Soccermomsavestheday · 08/03/2026 01:03

randomchap · 08/03/2026 01:01

An income 8 times the national average,plus a bonus, and you don't consider yourself rich?

How do you define the term?

That was what I came here to decipher 😝

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