What is considered rich these days??

Make your mind up - most mums netters say that all income is joint and belongs to both people. He gets his childcare free then !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I don't personally consider £250k a year single income for a family as 'rich', no. Well off, but not rich. Others will disagree with that because it's relative.

If your SIL is rude, then she's rude, full stop – doesn't have to be entwined with your money.

The 'working hard' comment is off, yes, because you must clearly know that many people work as hard as your husband and don't and can't earn this salary – there simply aren't enough jobs at this level available to everyone 'working hard'. Also YOU have not worked hard – you don't work. And the things you do work hard at (parenting) aren't earning, so there's no point coupling the two together as a description.

You say you view luck as 'winning the lottery'. Is your husband a white man? That's all the luck he needs.

Oh god, if one of the Range Rovers has to be second hand I think you qualify for some benefits. The form is a IM0UT-0FT0UCH

OP didn’t say she’s never worked!
she’s clearly worked hard before having children and now chooses not too because she doesn’t need to.

If you won the lottery would you still work?

There’s a massive difference between ‘working hard’ in the context of working long hours, physically demanding, few days off etc to ‘working hard’ when someone has worked to get themselves out of poverty and within a different class bracket financially. They have gone against the grain and achieved things that weren’t expected of them - that’s working hard and is very commendable

I always have such respect for people that go against the odds and don’t accept what’s been given to them in life. They fight for more! Well done OP and your husband. It’s impressive you’ve both come from working backgrounds and worked hard to better yourselves.

As do the SIL - it’s a simple thing called JEALOUSLY - rise above and ignore her

Oh it must have been someone else. Oops

although..he isn't a barrister

Luck doesn't negate hard work. So it's "luck" to believe in yourself? And "luck" to not be disabled? Being disabled is unfortunate but most people are able bodied? Genetics are not destiny. With school and studying all you need to do (bar massive LD/sen) is just knuckle down and put pen to paper.

Earning lots of money isn't all about hard work and there IS a lot of luck involved. I believe that to qualify as a barrister you need a strong sense of self belief and confidence which will usually stem from a supportive family background. Studying to the required level is easier if you're fit and healthy. Not impossible, of course, if you're not - but illness and disability are added challenges in life. Above all you need a very good brain and memory, which is genetics.
It's disingenuous to state that your DH's enormous salary is simply the result of hard work. Luck comes in all shapes and sizes.

You are rich, and if you do not realise that you are completely out of touch. Think SiL is fair, probably resisted commenting for some time

Your sister is going to keep pointing out you are rich until you finally admit it!

Isn't a marriage a partnership?

Every line of your post scream “out of touch”. You have a faaaar above average lifestyle and you don’t work so please Ty leisure time as well. Money & time is literally the definition of privilege.

“We have worked really hard…..” says the woman with no job relying on her husbands wage. Let’s hope there’s enough to go round in the divorce

Grads I know usually start on £30k

Nah mate you're rich. After all you have a 'wrap around garden.'

And you think new grads get much above minimum wage?
Yeah OK, some do, but it's not the norm whatever the weather.

Don’t eye roll at me, it’s ignorant.

I have three children, so I know how much childcare is. I live in the south east in an expensive town so I’ve been there. I also know that you cut your cloth accordingly.

No problem with my comprehension, but you certainly have a problem with your attitude.

Course it's fine. Many Grads I know make do of it and rent privately in London in a house share with that. Decent salary to start a working career with.

£32k starting wage aged 22 is pretty decent.

That’s really not fine if you’re single.

National min wage for 40 hours a week is just over 25k, so I’m not sure that’s a good barometer/

I believe 80k places you in the top 10%. I would think that was “rich” but it’s all personal.

Most graduates start between 25 and 30k so it's above average.

Wow I appreciate your hiuse will get taxed more but really...... £250k to my £38k no comparison. I always have too much month left at the end of my pay even with a strict budget. Was a single Mum working and on benefits until 6 years ago, went from a full time salary of £22k to now full time salary of £38k.

In my opinion you’re rich .
My daughter has friends who think we are rich because we own a detached home ( decent area but not at all posh ) we have nice food in the house , a decent car ( not new ) are able to take 2 short UK holidays per year and can replace a household appliance when it breaks down and can’t be repaired.
So to them I’m rich and I feel just comfortable IYSWIM

Exactly. It's insulting to so many people who are working their arses off but still struggling, especially in the current economic climate.