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To be absolutely fed up with a 'friend' in our group

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FierceForester90 · 07/03/2026 15:21

This is long sorry, but needed for context.

I am friends with a group of wonderful ladies who have all known each other for 6 years now, We met through a shared love of hiking and try to go every couple of weekends and also have a couple of overnight trips through the year.

We have a Whatsapp group to plan stuff - a couple of years ago one of our friends brought her friend 'Susan' to a hike and invited her to the Whatsapp. Since then the original lady has stepped back from joining us, but Susan has remained with us.

She is unfortunately quite a rude and difficult lady. She can drive, but doesn't - a group of us car share but she never offers and assumes she can have a lift without asking.

In the earlier days she came on a weekend away, she borrowed kit from others that she has still not returned, did not drive or offer any fuel money, and insisted that two separate people in the group called her before the trip to go through the weekends plan in great detail (I was over an house on the phone). She talks non stop and often speaks over other people.

In more recent times she has asked one of the group for a lift to a hike, when the person she asked wasn't well enough to do it herself, suggesting that she 'stayed warm in the car' while she went out with others. Last week an outing was arranged an her response was 'I'll tag along with XXX" no please, no thank you, no 'do you mind?'

She demands photos are taken of her but never offers to return the favour. She has in the past messaged people away from the main group saying how disappointed she is if she sees anyone has been out without her.

Susan is currently injured, and yesterday a message went into the group chat about going out tomorrow. Her response was 'I'll come but I need a lift and help to get up and down things'. No please, no thank you, no w'would anyone be OK o help me'.

We are at a point where some people just won't post plans in the chat anymore because of her behaviour and lack of manners. I'd love to just remove her from the group but it feels mean.

AIBU to feel that her behaviour is awful and just be totally fed up with it?

OP posts:
OVienna · 09/03/2026 11:35

I hope I'm wrong and she doesn't end up messaging others.

Stircrazyschoolmum · 09/03/2026 11:29

Thanks for the update OP. Sounds like you handled it in an authentic and honest manner. Susan hasn’t been left wondering why the groups gone quiet and perhaps will undertake some self reflection into group etiquette. Agree with previous comment about ensuring no one else can be added without group consent! Good luck getting the things back!

Gossipisgood · 09/03/2026 11:19

Message her saying your cars in for a service so you'll hop in with her coz she hasn't driven anytime so it's her turn. See what she says. If she say no then tell her she'll have to make her own way there then as all other car spaces are full. keep doing it until she gets the hint.

WildUmberCrow · 09/03/2026 11:13

Really appreciate the update OP.
It has been an interesting discussion re how much we should have to labour to accommodate someone who appears not to do any self development work themselves.
As you say, this group was were you relax away from other responsibilities and this person was imposed on you all. Would like to be a fly on the wall observing a frank convo with the person who added them,lol.
I hope you have tweeked the admin so no one can add anyone else without group discussion.

drivingmissmum · 09/03/2026 11:09

Start a new group.
If you don’t see her outside of planning hikes it’s quite easy to distance yourself from her.

FierceForester90 · 09/03/2026 11:04

Ok, so an update. Within 5 minutes of taking her out of the group she had called me on WhatsApp and sent several messages saying had she been removed by accident. I was sorting the kids when she rang but did make sure I responded to her messages quickly.

I explained why she had been removed, giving examples which directly involved me. I said our group should be built on respect and politeness and she wasn't really sitting with that ethos. Her response was blunt, just 'oh i didn't realise I was rude'. She left it at that so I just replied to reiterate that id collect the stuff this week.

As of now she hasn't messaged anyone off the side and I haven't seen anything on socials. I do agree we should have dealt with it far sooner but equally the group had run for 4 years without any issues like this and so I just didn't know how to approach it.

OP posts:
MayaKovskaya · 09/03/2026 10:38

jjx111 · 09/03/2026 10:26

I wonder if she is autistic?

Well, this has certainly been suggested many times on here, and certainly refuted.
We've no way of knowing, other than to suggest that many autistic women mask well and are often anxious about following social cues. This person just seems very insensitive and self obsessed.

yellowfieldpinkflowers · 09/03/2026 10:30

I once had an autistic female friend who behaved EXACTLY like this. Even when it was pointed out to her, she couldn't really grasp why it was wrong.

This lady is behaving in SUCH an odd way there probably is a reason behind it. She clearly wants to be in the friendship group but does not seem to have any idea of how to behave so that people want her there.

I wouldn't stay friends with her either, but its still a bit sad to see people implode their own lives like this.

SuperLoudPoppingAction · 09/03/2026 10:28

Yes because everybody with a horrible personality who is a cheeky fucker is autistic.
Being autistic makes you feel entitled to people's time and energy for sure. I think they're putting it into the DSM vi.

jjx111 · 09/03/2026 10:26

I wonder if she is autistic?

ThisZanyPinkSquid · 09/03/2026 10:24

FierceForester90 · 08/03/2026 21:29

So, a final.update. This evening I spoke to the other WhatsApp admin (i am the other one) who had been concerned about removing her. We talked it through and came to the conclusion that it wasn't good for the group for her to remain. I removed her from.the group chat thos evening but at the same time sent a message tk her explaining why. Thank you all for you advice.

did you get a response from Susan? I think you have dealt with it the best you could.

You didn’t ghost her, you didn’t call her out in the group chat but you did tell her which does take courage when you don’t like confrontation

Hind sight is a wonderful thing but nipping it in the bud earlier would have been much simpler but you always try to give people the benefit of the doubt (I do anyway). Hopefully this makes things a little more peaceful in the group.

also kind of feels like the person who invited her then ducked out did this knowing what they were doing 🤣🤣

allthingsinmoderation · 09/03/2026 10:21

FierceForester90 · 08/03/2026 21:29

So, a final.update. This evening I spoke to the other WhatsApp admin (i am the other one) who had been concerned about removing her. We talked it through and came to the conclusion that it wasn't good for the group for her to remain. I removed her from.the group chat thos evening but at the same time sent a message tk her explaining why. Thank you all for you advice.

I can understand your decision but am interested in how you explained it in your message to her and wether she responded in any way.

MayaKovskaya · 09/03/2026 10:15

CarterBeatsTheDevil · 09/03/2026 10:10

Hats off to the original friend who palmed Susan off on all of you in the first place, I say

Yes, she's quite the operator.

CarterBeatsTheDevil · 09/03/2026 10:10

Hats off to the original friend who palmed Susan off on all of you in the first place, I say

custardcreme77 · 09/03/2026 10:03

OP - you still have to face her when you collect the swimming stuff 🙈 Hope all goes well.

Winederlust · 09/03/2026 09:52

I voted YABU for not just calling her out whenever this happens. Pussyfooting around these types of people never works, they don't take hints. Just remove her from the group.

Handyweatherstation · 09/03/2026 09:42

RTFT!

Mary28 · 09/03/2026 09:40

From what you describe it sounds like she is on the autism spectrum. If so her rudeness is not deliberate as such. It might help to do a rota of giving lifts to make sure she takes her turn. Maybe she's nervous, or maybe she's just tight or lazy, I don't know. It would be kinder to try to explain things to her and try to include her.

FuckoffeeBeforeCoffee · 09/03/2026 09:13

That cannot be the final update.

How did she take it?!

TheEarlgreygirl · 09/03/2026 09:12

Start a new WhatsApp group and leave the old one! Life to short for her shit x

TheLovelinessOfDemons · 09/03/2026 09:01

Swiftie1878 · 07/03/2026 15:47

Just waiting on the ND excuses to arrive in this thread…

You all need to tell her that her attitude stinks and you’re all fed up with her, so you’ll be hiking without her from now on. Perhaps she should find a different group to join because yours is all out of unappreciated favours.

No, I'm autistic but I'm not rude.

Ocelotfeet27 · 09/03/2026 08:48

Well done. Whilst it feels horrible it is kinder for her to know the truth. Though arguably it would have been better to have told her the truth earlier and given her a chance to try to rectify her behaviour.

JingsMahBucket · 09/03/2026 08:37

LaurieFairyCake · 09/03/2026 08:15

I also want to know how she’s responding as I think she’s going to start messaging every member individually

Yeah, I’d advise people to block her both on WhatsApp and on social media.

MrsPositivity1 · 09/03/2026 08:35

I wonder will she reply. @FierceForester90 it’s so maddening in a group when 1 person behaves like this, it becomes such an infuriating niggle in your head

BillStickersWillBeProsocuted · 09/03/2026 08:17

Mulledjuice · 09/03/2026 04:06

What could she say about you " this dreadful woman didnt want to give me a lift"?

People like this have a wonderful way of twisting the facts

"I was part of a hiking group that I thought was a safe place for women to support each other. I asked for a bit of extra help after I was injured and was removed from the group without warning - and them PMd separately with a list of my alleged crimes. Like borrowing some swim stuff I hadn’t gotten around to returning yet" It would be very and flowery, and they'll always leave out little details like the borrowing was well over a year ago and it had been asked for back repeatedly

OP I hope she just slinks away quietly, but even if she does attack like this people on her Social media will know what she's like! It's best not in engage

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