To think there will never truly be a sisterhood because too many women are still competing for male attention?

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'distancing yourself from another woman because you see her as “competition” or undermining someone socially when male attention is involved. '
These kinds of behaviours are already looked down upon though? They're not seen as desirable or acceptable. Do you really think sisterhood will only exist if no woman ever behaves that way? I don't. I believe the fact that these behaviours are seen as undesirable proves the fact the sisterhood already exists.

This is my experience too but it might be because I’m not in my 20s and trying to find a mate.

Competitive women want the approval of other women. Men aren’t judging women by the same metrics. If they were then lesbians wouldn’t have the same issues with their friends like people being selfish or whatever.

This 1000%.

I don't agree with the "sisterhood". I dont agree I should have to support someone just because they are a woman. If I disagree with what they are saying / doing, I'm not just going to say well she's a woman as am I so I'll support it.

Hello are you Liz Fraser collecting anecdotes for your new book ?

But you are talking in very global terms and women are not some homogenous entity. I very much have a feeling of sisterhood among my (mostly single) female friends. We are there for each other even if we bicker sometimes. We treat each other with care and kindness even if we may disapprove of each other's views. And I don't believe any of us actually ever criticised each other appearance or competed for a man. And I would very much expect one of my female friends to pull me up if they deem my views or behaviour unsavoury because I am not above being challenged. If you don't have this experience with your close friends, maybe think about why you attract people into your life which behave in a way you describe.

I think the problem is that male attention is still a factor that can disrupt the status quo, especially in the workplace.

A woman can be highly qualified, working hard and doing all the right things, but if an attractive female colleague catches the eye of a male manager then it is no longer a level playing field. Even women are also drawn to more attractive women.

I say this knowing that I have benefited from this at times, even in subtle ways. But been disadvantaged by it at other points in my career.

I have also been on an interview panel and had to fight for the older, more experienced woman against a younger, bubbly, attractive but significantly less experienced woman. The person who was advocating for her was another woman!

Its almost as if you expect women to all have the same personalities.
This isnt how humans work. We are all concerned to some extent with staus and access to resources.
People are all unique. That's all.

It’s all great once you get into your 50s OP, that’s when the sisterhood kicks in, when you realize the majority of men are self obsessed wankers 🤣

This. The 'be kind' brigade are also hopelessly naive when it comes to looking out for women. My particular bugbear today is 'International Womens day is for everyone' ads I've seen. No love, INCLUSIVITY Day is for everyone. THIS is International WOMEN'S Day. The clue is in the title. There. Thats my tuppence worth of 'sisterhood'. Twats.

I agree. So many women are obsessed with designer labels & social status. Competitive materialism & consumerism is definitely more of a female than a male characteristic. Apart from sport & cars, obv.

I think there will always be women who say things like "women are worse than men" or "I prefer to have male friends". In my experience they usually switch around 35 when they start losing their looks and the male attention becomes focused on younger women and they realise these men weren't actually friends but hoping for more. They've usually been cheated on by their "best friend for lifey" by then too and have a slightly more worldly view on what makes men tick.

Until that point there is no telling these women that women should stick together. Socialised and internalised misogyny is still rife but the internet has enabled women around the world to see that it is never something they could have done to stop him cheating, men globally are low empathy, high immediate reward individuals.

These is not and never has been any sisterhood.

There cant sisterhood because women dont or never will think the same and is women's only worth when they are connected to men?

It makes no sense to me that anyone would like/support/trust someone just because they're the same sex as themselves.

Can you give some concrete examples of women competing for male attention? Tbh it’s not something I really see in my day to day life. And what would ‘sisterhood’ look like in your eyes?

Then I would suggest you are holding women to unrealistic standards. Human beings, including women, aren't perfect. There will always be humans who behave poorly. In general i disagree that women behave they way you suggest en masse.

Yes this. When female celebrities turn up half naked on the red carpet it’s as much to show off to other women as for male attention.

I’m inclined to ask why there should be a sisterhood.

Women are not some homogenous mass, who all act and think the same.

There are women who I would “uplift” and there are women who I wouldn’t. I’m not going to “uplift” someone just because I share their sex.

Agreed. I'm not interested in uncritical solidarity with all women regardless of their human qualities.

Also, what on earth is the "sisterhood"? The one at each others throats about if this includes men or not?