To think supernanny doesn’t need a come back

I think the point this poster was trying to make, was that there was a young girl who would repeat that in supernannys face. Her name was Megan. There are clips of her being an absolute terror all over TikTok to this day.

I'm either explaining my view poorly, or we just fundamentally disagree.

A nanny with children who adapts guidance for lived experiece is able to offer more than someone who hasn't got a clue what having a child is actually like. I'm sorry, I can't think of a better way to articulate. I guess I place a lot of value on actual personal experience rather than just having a job. (For example, a nurse with zero personal experience told me that something didn't hurt, and compared it to a post-pregnancy treatment which was so agonising I stopped after a week. When I said her 'it doesn't hurt' comparison was actually horrendously painful, she made a face, got cross and told me, 'well I've never actually experienced it, so I can't say.' Learning through books is different to learning from life. Learning on the job is vastly different to living an experience 24/7; and it's the lived experience that allows someone to give well rounded guidance.)

And yet kids behaviour is so bad these days
Bring back strong discipline I say
Aside from any developmental delays and even they need suitable discipline.
The other day I saw a boy of about 6 or 7
Kicking his dad in the dental surgery waiting room
Why?
He asked him to lower the volume on his game.
Yeah, no thanks.
The boy was very articulate and seemed spoilt
But even if that boy was autistic or adhd, just no
Take it away,
Let him scream for a good 3 hours if neccassary
Let him learn that kicking your parents is unacceptable!
And this is coming from someone that has both adhd and autism in my family.

Most teachers don't have kids when they start out in teaching.

Some of it was exploitative by today’s standards, but is there anything wrong with kids learning a bit of respect and how to have appropriately in wider society? No! The majority of issues at my DCs’ schools are the unruly DC ruining it for the rest. One set the fire alarm off for a laugh this week, wasting the lesson time of 1500 other children. I know the family, no SEND, just a badly parented child who’ll struggle in life because he simply hasn’t been shown how to behave by his layabout family.

I wouldn’t be bothered trying any of her techniques but I liked her . I certainly would not describe her as “thick”. And as for taking parenting advice from someone who doesn’t have kids ? I don’t see why someone that experienced as a nanny can’t give advice . Sometimes it’s useful as a parent to have an outside perspective on things .

Gentle and attachment parenting doesn't preclude boundaries and routine at all though. I err strongly on the side of responsive parenting with clear gentle and attachment influences, and that most definitely includes firm boundaries.

Being responsive to your child is never a wrong approach.

I agree with this. The manhandling of children I always hated and supernanny probably informed a lot of my parenting in what I didn't want to do in line with my upbringing. Becoming a mum myself emphasised that parents need support, not judgement - and yet so many of the posters here agreeing with supernanny are dripping in judgement.

I think there does need to be an opposing narrative to the current attachment/gentle parenting though. Nothing wrong with routines and boundaries. I didn't personally like her style or some of her methods, but something has gone wrong with the current generation of youngsters. They are not happy, their parents are not happy.

Hands up, I am very much a 90's/00's mother who follows many conversations on here, and dreads when my DD's become mothers, because there is little advice I can give that isn't in direct confrontation with current vibes. My similar aged friends feel the same, that the can't impart advice to their daughters many of whom seem to be struggling with their babies and young children.

we don’t need her YANBU

Your post made me think about my asd children would react and one would simply shut down and do nothing, the other would feel deeply deeply betrayed that I let it happen.

There was absolutely no need for her style of parenting 'advice' or for struggling families to be turned into entertainment

I hated the way she would sometimes seem to market herself by playing the 'MILF' angle. Like being filmed with her thong sticking out her trousers, or boasting about sad pervy men wanting to be spanked and put on the naughty step by her. Or how people mistake her for Nigella.
I just find her condescending.

I think people without DC can never really appreciate how hard it can be. JF was OK then ,but it was also the GF type of parenting. controlled crying and so on.I dont think having young children on screen is helpful either .

There is absolutely no need for this.

To be fair she always empathised that the children’s issues stemed from poor & lazy parenting which there was a lot of lazy parents on her programmes. I would enjoy her coming back, parents are far to laid back these days thats why we have teens going around stabbing other teens & teenage rapists. Time to bring back stricter parenting.

This seems unusual. I remember watching her dealing with a family of a son that had autism and adhd, long before it was a known as it is today, and she did a really good job of explaining to the parents what it felt like for him and adjusted her techniques to be more appropriate for him.

Lots of us thought it was questionable 20 years ago. Obviously the TV company were happy with it, she had her fans probably still does.

I particularly hated the naughty step.

I like her and learned a lot from her back in the day. She ALWAYS emphasises that any issues within the family are NOT the children’s fault - it’s all about poor and/or lazy parenting.

As with all parenting experts, you take from them what works for you, and ditch the stuff you don’t want/need.

I always assumed there was actual experts, child phycologist in the background and she was more presenter than anything else.

I do think there is space on TV for good parenting programmes. But I'm not sure how they should be done.
One of the best I saw was focused on older kids, inc 15 yo twins towering over their mum, who had zero control over them.
Dad wasn't on the scene, they managed to get to the bottom of the issues of two very unhappy boys

@ItsNotMeEither

Honestly, some parents really could do with as much help as they can get. Like her techniques or not, they worked for some people.

Unfortunately, the ones who most need the help/advice probably won't be the ones who watch the program.

Same with all the current crop of "decluttering" progs and "eat better" progs - the typical viewer is probably the kind who aren't cluttered and don't eat too badly.

I remember the episode with Megan !

I agree with the point about the "Outsider" perspective. I've found the same, i.e. that people in different circumstances often come up with better ideas as they can look in from a different perspective.

Honestly, some parents really could do with as much help as they can get. Like her techniques or not, they worked for some people.

When my kids were little, there seemed to be a lot more parenting ‘experts’ around. I didn’t agree with everything, but did pick up the odd tip that worked for our family. It also meant that as we watched, DH and I probably talked a bit more about our own approach and it meant we were on the same page.

I’d assume that after all this time, Jo would have some updated techniques too.

So, even if she’s not for everyone, I’m all for more awareness and discussion of techniques that will help parents.