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She gets away with doing whatever she wants

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Timbucktutu · 06/03/2026 19:01

Nice evening, cosy by the fire.
Dd decides she wants to make soup, I tell her we don’t have the ingredients and we can make tomorrow. Dd stubborn and becomes quite single minded when she gets an idea into her head (suspect Nd) so I just leave her to it and try to be patient about the mess that will be made and to just let it go.
Dh goes into the kitchen and sees she’s spilt a jar of cinnamon all over the floor, starts to get angry, Dd saying sorry. He tells her she can’t make all this and can’t get all these ingredients out, comes in to tell me. At this point I don’t see the point of getting angry and he storms out saying that she gets away with doing whatever she wants

Who is being unreasonable here?

OP posts:
CoralOP · 07/03/2026 23:37

You sound a bit drunk tbh, have you had too much wine and in 'fun, blasé mum mode?' Not judging, just what I'm picturing!

FunMustard · 07/03/2026 23:36

EmeraldShamrock000 · 06/03/2026 21:36

I am serious.
OP was being lazy and DH was getting angry, insisting OP stop her, why didn’t he stop her? neither was very helpful to the situation, lazy parenting on both sides.
Neither actually dealt with the situation.

You know as well as I do I was responding based on your comments about the child, not the comment about the dad.

invisiblemice · 07/03/2026 23:18

Timbucktutu · 07/03/2026 22:58

I’m a rubbish mum 😔

What is your plan going forward?
Statements like this still don't show any real insight on your part into what's been happening here and what you plan to do to change things - with handling your child's behaviour and not laying the blame on your dh when he recognises a problem. It must be very frustrating for him to see what's happening and you won't back him up or even worse paint him as the bad guy. You need to change for your child's sake and for the sake of your marriage, many of us recognise that this isn't a one off incident.

ThiagoJones · 07/03/2026 23:03

Timbucktutu · 07/03/2026 22:58

I’m a rubbish mum 😔

Maybe you could start by telling us what actually happened? Was she cooking soup
or not?

GardenCovent · 07/03/2026 23:00

Backtracking much op.
Your last update is nothing like your initial op, it’s like you’ve changed the story after most posters agreed with your DH
You continue allowing your stubborn 8 year old do what they like and I’ll imagine you’ll be back asking for advice on how to deal with an out of control teenager

Timbucktutu · 07/03/2026 22:58

I’m a rubbish mum 😔

OP posts:
Ilovelurchers · 07/03/2026 22:21

Well, I was going to post saying that one good thing here is that your daughter is interested in cooking - it's a great life skill. My daughter started cooking quite young (older than 8 though!) and at 14 she is now quite an accomplished cook and baker.

But now I can see you were just letting her play with food and waste it.....

To be honest I agree with your husband - that's really annoying.

Why didn't you say to her, yes we will make soup together, and show her how to actually make it? Soup can be really easy to make, all you would need is a tin of tomatoes, some stock, onion, dried herbs, for a basic tomato soup. And if you had already eaten, it could always be frozen.

OR, tell her that something like soup making requires planning, and distract her with another creative activity - I assume if she is 8 you have some craft stuff in the house, something like that? Or even look up soup recipes with her, get her to do a shopping list with you or something.....

I'm not claiming to be supermum - in fact by Mumsnet standards I am sure I am a pretty lazy parent, but even I can see it's not great to let an 8 year old muck around tipping spices and herbs out into a bowl in the kitchen.....

Can you genuinely not see your husband's point of view? At all?

Not saying he should be an arsehole about it - and certainly he shouldn't take it out on your daughter.....

INX · 07/03/2026 22:12

Minglingpringle · 07/03/2026 22:06

I think you should have been more supportive about her cooking. It’s a great skill to learn and it’s great to do independent activities like that. Yes, it’s annoying that they make a mess, but there’s really no other way to learn.

If you hadn’t said no to something you didn’t really mind her doing, your husband wouldn’t have had to back you up in a heavy-handed way while you shrugged. You set him up to fail.

Doing some cooking shouldn’t turn into something parents get angry about. Parents have a duty to model good behaviour, to be calm and authoritative. He should have stayed calm.

It’s unfortunate she spilt the cinnamon, but she was sorry about it. Without the surrounding circumstances, that would not have been a big deal.

Both parents messed up.

You need to read the OP's updates.

It turns she wasn't making soup at all.

And apparently she wasn't cooking anything either, despite her earlier post to the contrary.

Confused? Join the club 😁

Tuesdayschild50 · 07/03/2026 22:12

Mixed signals all over the place... if I told someone they were not making soup as we didn't have ingredients.. they won't be making soup end of.

Minglingpringle · 07/03/2026 22:06

I think you should have been more supportive about her cooking. It’s a great skill to learn and it’s great to do independent activities like that. Yes, it’s annoying that they make a mess, but there’s really no other way to learn.

If you hadn’t said no to something you didn’t really mind her doing, your husband wouldn’t have had to back you up in a heavy-handed way while you shrugged. You set him up to fail.

Doing some cooking shouldn’t turn into something parents get angry about. Parents have a duty to model good behaviour, to be calm and authoritative. He should have stayed calm.

It’s unfortunate she spilt the cinnamon, but she was sorry about it. Without the surrounding circumstances, that would not have been a big deal.

Both parents messed up.

Snakebite61 · 07/03/2026 21:17

Bonkers1966 · 06/03/2026 19:02

You are married to an idiot.

No, he is.

HungreeHipp0 · 07/03/2026 21:03

Odd twist to the thread, soup-but-not-soup! 🧐

I did baking with DDs today (rarely do it to be honest) Youngest is also 8. I let them weigh the ingredients and let them have a go at cracking the eggs. 8yo squeezed the egg in one hand and sent the contents all over the floor, her jumper, socks and the cupboard door. We all fell about laughing, I cleaned it up and said no to her trying again because I couldn't waste the eggs. We've now got 12 tasty fairy cakes to get through. I'm no parenting expert by any means, but surely my example is more typical of what an 8yo should be doing in a kitchen under supervision?

EvangelineTheNightStar · 07/03/2026 21:03

mathanxiety · 07/03/2026 21:00

Agree.

So wasteful. So indulgent.

Am wondering if op was quite nefarious in this as she knew it would annoy the dh? She gets to be wonder fun mummy and he’s mean old daddy?

mathanxiety · 07/03/2026 21:00

Tarkadaaaahling · 07/03/2026 17:19

This actually makes it even worse.... Why at age 8 does your child think tipping spices and herbs together and mixing them is 'making soup'?? Herbs and spices aren't cheap, that's such a wasteful thing for her to do?!

I could understand if she was playing the garden with a bucket of water adding leaves etc and twigs and berries and calling it soup, fine.

But why on earth would you let her mess about making a mess and mixing up spices only to have to chuck them in the bin....

Learn to say no to her, and follow through with it!

Agree.

So wasteful. So indulgent.

mathanxiety · 07/03/2026 20:56

Muckypig · 06/03/2026 19:09

You are. You said no, explained why, and then did nothing to follow through or even back your DH up when it came to cleaning up the mess she had made.

This.

Say either no or yes, and follow through.

I can see why your H is frustrated.

INX · 07/03/2026 20:52

Just while we're pointing out inconsistencies in your last update OP.

When @Enyastar said earlier

"Your daughter will be an entitled, spoilt brat if those are your parenting models!"

Your reply was

"By allowing herself to cook something?"

So was she cooking or not? Because according to your update, she wasn't?

Noni123 · 07/03/2026 20:49

Timbucktutu · 06/03/2026 19:23

By allowing her to cook herself something?!

No because you told her no and she carried on anyway with no consequence it seems. Good luck for the future because you are sure going to need it

EvieBB · 07/03/2026 20:41

youalright · 06/03/2026 19:18

She is going to be a nightmare as a teenager if you don't step up and parent her

Bollox

GertrudePerkinsPaperyThing · 07/03/2026 20:17

Very odd thread!

I voted YANBU at first because I thought it was a teenager wanted to cook an actual meal, and who would presumably then have cleared up the spices.

I wouldn’t let an 8 yo go and freely make a mess in the kitchen and waste food, no.

It sounds like she was bored - could one of you not have done something with her? Baked something together maybe?

But you do have to stick to your no unless you really think your original no was wrong - and maybe if that’s often the case make sure to take a pause before saying yes or no to start with.

WhatNoRaisins · 07/03/2026 20:07

OP how did you expect us to interpret "make soup" and "cook herself something"?

Not sure what the point of this thread is to be honest?

MaddestGranny · 07/03/2026 20:03

If you are going to adopt the parenting strategy of: "No means Yes in our house", then look out for more trouble ahead, as your DD just goes on and becomes a full-out entitled brat. She may think she can import the same behaviour into the classroom and become a real pain at school, with teachers trying to "catch" you at the end of the day to "have a quiet word", about which you may feel embarrassed and/or resentful, eventually possibly even blaming the school for "picking on her". Not to say this WILL happen. Just saying: I've seen it many times, my dear OP. So, think ahead.

ThiagoJones · 07/03/2026 20:01

CrazyGoatLady · 07/03/2026 19:57

So you think all ND children are violent do you?

This is what I was thinking! My son is autistic and he doesn’t have a violent bone in his body. He has never once ‘become physical’ with us.

CrazyGoatLady · 07/03/2026 19:57

ForNoisyCat · 07/03/2026 18:50

The poster prob coukd not gave stopped DD without it becoming physical. If they suspect ND then both parents must respond accordingly

So you think all ND children are violent do you?

Springisnearlyspring · 07/03/2026 19:55

By make soup I assumed make soup.
Very wasteful just to let her tip herbs in cold water and stir. Why not just supervise her learning to make soup when you actually want soup for lunch.

CrazyGoatLady · 07/03/2026 19:55

Timbucktutu · 07/03/2026 16:41

Some of these comments 😂

As if i’m going to leave an 8 year old making real soup-boiling water and chopping veg 🙄
She was doing what she thinks can be soup-load of spices in a bowl, mixing it up.
I said no initially and as I said, I rethought it as have been questioning why I just automatically say no to things a lot without listening properly to
what she’s saying and because i’m too fussy about mess. So then I said ok and she started, house is open plan so I can see her, even though don’t need to supervise with stirring herbs etc, she makes pancakes and fried eggs now no problem-which I see as a good thing!
She tidied up afterwards with my help

Right, so she wasn't making actual soup, she was messing about in the kitchen. Why didn't you specify that she was just mixing spices together and not actually cooking? You can't really blame people for thinking you meant soup when you literally said soup 😂

YABU to let her waste ingredients like that. It's nice to want to say yes more, there are lots of good things to say yes to, unnecessarily wasting food and making a mess isn't one of them. Sorry, still team DH, and still think you're going to have a kid with no boundaries on your hands.