Please or to access all these features

AIBU?

Share your dilemmas and get honest opinions from other Mumsnetters.

She gets away with doing whatever she wants

285 replies

Timbucktutu · 06/03/2026 19:01

Nice evening, cosy by the fire.
Dd decides she wants to make soup, I tell her we don’t have the ingredients and we can make tomorrow. Dd stubborn and becomes quite single minded when she gets an idea into her head (suspect Nd) so I just leave her to it and try to be patient about the mess that will be made and to just let it go.
Dh goes into the kitchen and sees she’s spilt a jar of cinnamon all over the floor, starts to get angry, Dd saying sorry. He tells her she can’t make all this and can’t get all these ingredients out, comes in to tell me. At this point I don’t see the point of getting angry and he storms out saying that she gets away with doing whatever she wants

Who is being unreasonable here?

OP posts:
Blondeshavemorefun · 08/03/2026 13:17

Timbucktutu · 07/03/2026 16:41

Some of these comments 😂

As if i’m going to leave an 8 year old making real soup-boiling water and chopping veg 🙄
She was doing what she thinks can be soup-load of spices in a bowl, mixing it up.
I said no initially and as I said, I rethought it as have been questioning why I just automatically say no to things a lot without listening properly to
what she’s saying and because i’m too fussy about mess. So then I said ok and she started, house is open plan so I can see her, even though don’t need to supervise with stirring herbs etc, she makes pancakes and fried eggs now no problem-which I see as a good thing!
She tidied up afterwards with my help

So totally not making soup then ?

what us mn readers think soup is - stock/water and veg

you now say actually she’s mixing spices together

yet you said you didn’t have the ingredients for soup

if it’s a few spices together then you have Totally re wrote your post 🙄

BrownandBlueCarpet · 08/03/2026 13:17

Bonkers1966 · 06/03/2026 19:02

You are married to an idiot.

How did you come to that conclusion?

likelysuspect · 08/03/2026 13:09

Minglingpringle · 08/03/2026 09:14

I actually don’t think there’s anything wrong with letting your child make an imaginary soup, if the communication about the whole thing had been dealt with better. It’s a fun, imaginative game, if you’re sparing with the ingredients. I remember doing it at the same age. I used whatever I could find, including my mum’s fag ash…. But I used tiny amounts of things because I knew it was wasteful and that’s what I’d been told to do.

When you have a stubborn child, it’s extremely hard work. I know, because I have one. It just means you have to be extra clear and calm about what you’re allowing and what you’re not, and follow through consistently. Even then, there will be conflict, but if you can acknowledge where you went wrong yourself (eg being inconsistent) it will be better for your relationship.

Its messy play and extremely valuable, but thats not what the OP set out and it sounds as if she didnt share the experience with her, sort of just a sitting back passive type of interaction with her. Not only that, but the fact she chops and chnages her mind wont be good for her child.

MoonWoman69 · 08/03/2026 12:48

EvieBB · 08/03/2026 10:18

Soup - 2nd line
Re-read it....see the bit about cinnamon
On too many threads at the moment.....so very sorry .......so shoot me.... No need to be a b*tch about it!

Not being a bitch about anything, just stating the very obvious. Not my fault you can't keep track of the threads you're on!

daleylama · 08/03/2026 12:26

Timbucktutu · 07/03/2026 22:58

I’m a rubbish mum 😔

Nice .

daleylama · 08/03/2026 12:24

Timbucktutu · 06/03/2026 19:26

Yes this is actually my view. I initially said no just leave it for tomorrow, then thought what’s the harm. I’m questioning myself recently as to why I just automatically say no to so many things. Yes they’ll be a little mess, but is it the end of the world really?
Dh just storms in out of nowhere really angry

Would have thought it be better if you joined in so she could actually learn something, you can keep an eye on goings on and do some bonding. Is how I learnt to cook early. 8 is way too young to be let loose solo in the kitchen. Oil fires anyone?

WildLeader · 08/03/2026 10:54

Ok, spice mixing not soup.

wtaf?

that’s dumb. Wasteful and unnecessary

the issue isn’t soup/spices, the issue is that @Timbucktutu said no and then let the dd do it anyway.

no needs to mean no. For all kids, and it’s just as important for ND kids too. Otherwise they don’t learn how to exist in the world.

WildLeader · 08/03/2026 10:49

Timbucktutu · 06/03/2026 19:23

By allowing her to cook herself something?!

By doing whatever she wants when you have said No.

this isn’t rocket science.

You have to teach kids there’s a time and place, and she can only cook when she cleans it all up properly.

You literally aren’t doing any kind of parenting here.

WildLeader · 08/03/2026 10:45

Muckypig · 06/03/2026 19:18

Then you are even more unreasonable. Do some parenting and stop being lazy.

100% agree with this.

Ffs! @Timbucktutu, you are losing battles ALREADY? You’ve backed off the whole parenting thing and she’s not even in double figures?

I should shake you! Both of you! Shes 8. No means NO. She makes a mess, she clears it up.

with Suspected ND it’s even MORE important that you teach you daughter where the boundaries are. NOW! Before the hormones kick in.

you both need to radically change your approach to this; starting today.

Sahara123 · 08/03/2026 10:41

Sounds like when mine used to make
“soup” when they were little. Difference being that they were in the garden with a bucket of water and leaves and soil, not the contents of the spice rack !

HDHSHK237 · 08/03/2026 10:21

OP - "My 3 year old wants to make bread - AIBU not letting him as he can't possible knead the dough properly and work out the oven dials"

Posters - "WHAT? Why are you letting a 3 year old near an oven and how can he possibly know what goes into bread??!"

OP - "You eejits, dont you realise I meant in his play kitchen with a bit of flour and water I have given him?"

Posters - "FGS, we aren't mind readers, why didn't you say that in your first post?"

OP - "waaaaaaaaagh 😭I am such a terrible mum "

EvieBB · 08/03/2026 10:18

MoonWoman69 · 08/03/2026 07:29

@EvangelineTheNightStar seems that @EvieBB is another one that hasn't grasped the thread, or read it fully, or even been in the same room as it! 🙄

Soup - 2nd line
Re-read it....see the bit about cinnamon
On too many threads at the moment.....so very sorry .......so shoot me.... No need to be a b*tch about it!

GertrudePerkinsPaperyThing · 08/03/2026 09:32

Timbucktutu · 07/03/2026 22:58

I’m a rubbish mum 😔

Youre not a rubbish Mum, just not a very clear poster on Mumsnet. Which is hardly a huge problem in the great scheme.

People are just suggesting advice based on what you said, but you can’t blame them for being confused.

You can see opinions are split but a lot of people are giving quite useful advice.

ThiagoJones · 08/03/2026 09:29

Minglingpringle · 08/03/2026 09:25

And it’s not good for children to be constantly supervised. It’s good for them to play imaginative games on their own.

All the posts about being supervised were based on the fact that the OP said her daughter was ‘making soup’. Unsurprisingly, a lot of us took that to mean that the child was ‘making soup’, not just mixing herbs together in a bowl.

ThatGreatMember · 08/03/2026 09:28

Muckypig · 06/03/2026 19:18

Then you are even more unreasonable. Do some parenting and stop being lazy.

👍

Minglingpringle · 08/03/2026 09:25

And it’s not good for children to be constantly supervised. It’s good for them to play imaginative games on their own.

Minglingpringle · 08/03/2026 09:14

I actually don’t think there’s anything wrong with letting your child make an imaginary soup, if the communication about the whole thing had been dealt with better. It’s a fun, imaginative game, if you’re sparing with the ingredients. I remember doing it at the same age. I used whatever I could find, including my mum’s fag ash…. But I used tiny amounts of things because I knew it was wasteful and that’s what I’d been told to do.

When you have a stubborn child, it’s extremely hard work. I know, because I have one. It just means you have to be extra clear and calm about what you’re allowing and what you’re not, and follow through consistently. Even then, there will be conflict, but if you can acknowledge where you went wrong yourself (eg being inconsistent) it will be better for your relationship.

TheHillIsMine · 08/03/2026 09:11

Timbucktutu · 07/03/2026 22:58

I’m a rubbish mum 😔

Don't try and guilt trip posters who have pointed out perfectly reasonable critique of your parenting, wife-ing and what you posted initially.

Moonnstarz · 08/03/2026 07:36

Timbucktutu · 07/03/2026 22:58

I’m a rubbish mum 😔

Well now you are being ridiculous as your post didn't go the way you wanted.
Yeah letting your kid mess up the kitchen and waste food/ingredients just because you didn't enforce no means no isn't a great mum in my view, but you can change that by setting boundaries and not just lazing around by the fire you mentioned in your first post. Your daughter is 8 and needs supervision and boundaries, not you slacking off and then calling it letting her be creative.

EvangelineTheNightStar · 08/03/2026 07:32

MoonWoman69 · 08/03/2026 07:29

@EvangelineTheNightStar seems that @EvieBB is another one that hasn't grasped the thread, or read it fully, or even been in the same room as it! 🙄

But is ok, at least there’s the platitudes of “great mum”…

MoonWoman69 · 08/03/2026 07:29

@EvangelineTheNightStar seems that @EvieBB is another one that hasn't grasped the thread, or read it fully, or even been in the same room as it! 🙄

EvangelineTheNightStar · 08/03/2026 06:40

EvieBB · 08/03/2026 05:43

Absolutely not! Ignore the nasty comments. You're doing great. There are some really upright people on here...that make ridiculous sweeping statements and have zero idea who you are and what you're actually like as a parent. The fact that you're as allowing your 8yo to make soup and be creative shows what a fab parent you are.

What soup @EvieBB ?

EvieBB · 08/03/2026 05:43

Timbucktutu · 07/03/2026 22:58

I’m a rubbish mum 😔

Absolutely not! Ignore the nasty comments. You're doing great. There are some really upright people on here...that make ridiculous sweeping statements and have zero idea who you are and what you're actually like as a parent. The fact that you're as allowing your 8yo to make soup and be creative shows what a fab parent you are.

SadTimesInFife · 08/03/2026 03:35

Timbucktutu · 07/03/2026 22:58

I’m a rubbish mum 😔

You must teach your daughter that no means no.

And if you don't, then you are a sh*t parent.

Miaminmoo · 08/03/2026 02:24

It doesn’t matter if she’s ND - my son is and it’s not an excuse for not enforcing and teaching boundaries. You should have told her no and enforced that decision.