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She gets away with doing whatever she wants

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Timbucktutu · 06/03/2026 19:01

Nice evening, cosy by the fire.
Dd decides she wants to make soup, I tell her we don’t have the ingredients and we can make tomorrow. Dd stubborn and becomes quite single minded when she gets an idea into her head (suspect Nd) so I just leave her to it and try to be patient about the mess that will be made and to just let it go.
Dh goes into the kitchen and sees she’s spilt a jar of cinnamon all over the floor, starts to get angry, Dd saying sorry. He tells her she can’t make all this and can’t get all these ingredients out, comes in to tell me. At this point I don’t see the point of getting angry and he storms out saying that she gets away with doing whatever she wants

Who is being unreasonable here?

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BauhausOfEliott · 09/03/2026 17:55

Granddama · 08/03/2026 20:35

It is very difficult to challenge any young person with Pathological Demand Avoidance disorder and this sounds typical. You can't just ignore it and throw in the towel. Never say no, offer two choices that both satisfy you. OR Put locks on all the cupboards and doors. Sorry to say this but you can't win.

Good bit of putting two and two together to make 1,376.

Sadmamaof2 · 09/03/2026 12:59

stayathomegardener · 06/03/2026 19:22

At 8 she either needs support to make soup or told it’s too late and schedule it for another day.

Given it’s such a positive request I would likely try to facilitate her making it when the urge arrived.

I agree with this I'd have either suggested a later night trip to the shop to get the ingredients there and then as to encourage learning to cook, or said no and left it like this.

Unless my child can persuade me I'm unreasonable or wrong (which isn't often as he's 4) my first rule is final or they'll learn they can ignore me.

Isthateveryonethen · 09/03/2026 11:35

She will be a horror for sure as a teen. And then your dh will turn to you and tell you again that it’s because you let her do what she wants.
the problem here is you think it’s cutesy being stubborn minded and being ND is a perfect excuse for you. If you say no it’s no.
Your dh is right here.

loislovesstewie · 09/03/2026 10:22

If you mean 'no', and have said it then be consistent and not backtrack.
If you let her use ingredients in the kitchen then give her exactly what she is allowed to use and no more.
And make tidying up a game, so that she learns not to leave a mess for others to clean up.
But first if you say no, it must mean no.

Nettie1964 · 09/03/2026 09:15

You have chopped and changed so much, making soup, creative, mixing herbs together. So the facts are your DD aged 8 wanted to make soup not real soup pretend soup with real ingredients. You originally said no but did nothing when your 8 year old DD disobeyed you. She made a mess and your (long suffering) DH got cross.I have posted once before and my advice is the same No means No which is why it is so important to think before saying no. If you vacillate children dont understand and its weak and lazy. You are sitting in the same room but you let her disobey you. It sounds like your husband is frustrated, do you overrule him if he says no? Or maybe he isn't allowed to put boundaries in. Sorry but you are lazy, no means no, there is no suggestion from you that you offered an alternative activity or did anything when she just ignored you and made "soup". You say she does what she wants! Of course she does, she knows there are no consequences. My xDH used to do this, its infuriating and children confused and throwing tantrums.

TheRuffleandthePearl · 09/03/2026 01:21

ArmchairSuccubus · 08/03/2026 21:52

I can't get my head round the OP telling us that her child was making soup then getting cross when we responded as if the child was making soup because of course the child was not making soup but mixing spices in a bowl Confused

I’m thinking like a PP that the OP had a few sherries when posting …..

CarrotVan · 08/03/2026 21:59

I was cooking independently from 8 and for the whole family a couple of time a week from 10 after my mum died.

My mum trained us all in how to cook and bake safely from when we were tiny

CarrotVan · 08/03/2026 21:56

My autistic just 9yo can competently cut meat/veg using proper knives, season and cook a steak, separate eggs, weigh ingredients, mix, fold, sear etc

he doesn’t boil the kettle, use the hob or oven without supervision…

my autistic 12 yo has blended his own spice mixes and cooks a range of meals competently

they are learning to cook by working with us to develop safe skills. Kitchens aren’t play spaces. Both kids know what is and isn’t allowed in the kitchen

ArmchairSuccubus · 08/03/2026 21:52

I can't get my head round the OP telling us that her child was making soup then getting cross when we responded as if the child was making soup because of course the child was not making soup but mixing spices in a bowl Confused

invisiblemice · 08/03/2026 21:37

Granddama · 08/03/2026 20:35

It is very difficult to challenge any young person with Pathological Demand Avoidance disorder and this sounds typical. You can't just ignore it and throw in the towel. Never say no, offer two choices that both satisfy you. OR Put locks on all the cupboards and doors. Sorry to say this but you can't win.

Where have you got PDA from?
The OP is a parent who can't be bothered to actually put in the work of teaching her child that she can't have or do whatever she wants and is upset with her husband because he doesn't agree with her poor approach to parenting. She posted here hoping everyone would agree that her husband is a big old meanie to their daughter but the vast majority are able to see that she's the one that needs to change her parenting techniques.

Rapidsrunners · 08/03/2026 21:11

You suspect ND, I suspect a young person who has been allowed to do what she wants and knows that she can do it even if you say no.

likelysuspect · 08/03/2026 20:47

Granddama · 08/03/2026 20:35

It is very difficult to challenge any young person with Pathological Demand Avoidance disorder and this sounds typical. You can't just ignore it and throw in the towel. Never say no, offer two choices that both satisfy you. OR Put locks on all the cupboards and doors. Sorry to say this but you can't win.

PDA, lol

These threads go wild dont they

Denim4ever · 08/03/2026 20:46

I wouldn't let an 8 year old cook in the kitchen without supervision. This is someone below the age at which they would be left alone in the house while you are at work. That would be my guideline of unsupervised

ThiagoJones · 08/03/2026 20:44

Granddama · 08/03/2026 20:35

It is very difficult to challenge any young person with Pathological Demand Avoidance disorder and this sounds typical. You can't just ignore it and throw in the towel. Never say no, offer two choices that both satisfy you. OR Put locks on all the cupboards and doors. Sorry to say this but you can't win.

Who said the child had PDA? The OP certainly didn’t. Have you just made it up? 😁

CrazyGoatLady · 08/03/2026 20:40

Granddama · 08/03/2026 20:35

It is very difficult to challenge any young person with Pathological Demand Avoidance disorder and this sounds typical. You can't just ignore it and throw in the towel. Never say no, offer two choices that both satisfy you. OR Put locks on all the cupboards and doors. Sorry to say this but you can't win.

The OP's daughter doesn't have diagnosed PDA. All she's said is suspected ND!

Granddama · 08/03/2026 20:35

It is very difficult to challenge any young person with Pathological Demand Avoidance disorder and this sounds typical. You can't just ignore it and throw in the towel. Never say no, offer two choices that both satisfy you. OR Put locks on all the cupboards and doors. Sorry to say this but you can't win.

Horses7 · 08/03/2026 20:23

Stop letting your daughter do what she wants for a quiet life. You are the grown up get tougher. I think if I was H I’d get cross too.

eastegg · 08/03/2026 20:22

Timbucktutu · 06/03/2026 19:23

By allowing her to cook herself something?!

See here you said cook. Bit of a weird choice of words if, as you said two posts later, it was mixing spices in a bowl and definitely not doing anything requiring adult supervision no siree Bob.

Swiftie1878 · 08/03/2026 16:54

Timbucktutu · 07/03/2026 22:58

I’m a rubbish mum 😔

No, but I don’t think this was your finest hour.

eastegg · 08/03/2026 16:18

GardenCovent · 07/03/2026 23:00

Backtracking much op.
Your last update is nothing like your initial op, it’s like you’ve changed the story after most posters agreed with your DH
You continue allowing your stubborn 8 year old do what they like and I’ll imagine you’ll be back asking for advice on how to deal with an out of control teenager

Either that or how to deal with severe burns on a child while waiting for the ambulance. God forbid.

Minglingpringle · 08/03/2026 15:22

likelysuspect · 08/03/2026 13:09

Its messy play and extremely valuable, but thats not what the OP set out and it sounds as if she didnt share the experience with her, sort of just a sitting back passive type of interaction with her. Not only that, but the fact she chops and chnages her mind wont be good for her child.

Agree about the chopping and changing, but parents shouldn’t be involved in every experience children have. Children need to play on their own in order to develop properly. It’s great she had this idea for a game and wanted to do it herself. It’s just her parents messed up deciding whether she was allowed to or not.

TheRuffleandthePearl · 08/03/2026 13:59

likelysuspect · 07/03/2026 17:31

Doesnt make sense what you're saying

In your OP you said your husband 'went into' the kitchen and then when he saw the mess and told her off he 'came in to tell me'

That suggests you were not in the same room and that the kitchen is a different area to where you were

If you were around her at the time he wouldnt have needed to do that or spot it at the time as her working individually as you would have been with her in your open plan area surely?

Yes - did you see her spill the cinnamon then? Or is this all a little Friday night story? Hmm

TheRuffleandthePearl · 08/03/2026 13:53

ThiagoJones · 07/03/2026 16:57

Well forgive us for thinking you meant ‘making soup’ when you said ‘making soup’. Awfully silly of us.

Quite. Some OP’s seem to think we are mind readers and of course they didn’t mean exactly that words they typed. Why didn’t we know that? HmmHmmHmm

Back pedalling faster than a circus clown OP.

YABU and a lazy parent.

BrownandBlueCarpet · 08/03/2026 13:40

Timbucktutu · 07/03/2026 22:58

I’m a rubbish mum 😔

If this post is meant to prompt us to assure you you aren't a rubbish mum, you are likely to be disappointed.

By your own account you aren't great at parenting and I completely understand your husband's frustration.

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