Can't stand this attitude re prison attacks

The only people you should actually feel sorry for is the FOS PO and/or the teacher who actually had to witness that level of violence. They were in a manufacturing workshop when it happened, so they will have had a supervising teacher/instructor (who could be as young as 21 and female). I feel really sorry for the person who had to witness that mess, then write about it and sit in a meeting with the Governor and explain why they (and the floor officer) weren’t able to predict/stop the attack, and go straight back to work the next day in the same place.
That’s who I feel sorry for in this whole mess.

Exactly, it is the beginning of the end of a civilised society which is dangerous for everyone, including staff as you say and the wrongly convicted innocent prisoners like the man recently released after 17 years charged with a vicious attack rape and serious injury after new DNA evidence proved it was someone else.

I don't think the attackers are heroes or anything of the sort but I am happy that a horrendous criminal is dead. I couldn't give a toss about the safety of prisoners. If every prisoner killed another prisoner there'd be no more prisoners, which would solve the prison overcrowding problem in one fell swoop, then we could start filling up prisons again with more criminals, which would drastically reduce crime.

The onus should be on the right of law-abiding people not to be the victims of crime. Criminal rights should not be a priority at all.

In that case, why are so many people against capital punishment? If you're not, fair enough, then that doesn't apply, but the question is really for everyone-and most people on here are generally against it. What is the point of abolishing the death penalty if we don't think prisons should be safe and humane.
Also, some people imprisoned for serious crimes are later found to be innocent. I'm not talking about Huntley, but about those who are innocent, who are also at risk when prisons aren't safe.

They do actually - especially paedophiles who are usually model prisoners and often kept separate from other prisoners due to the risk of violence against them.

Mothers and fathers have a huge bearing on how their offspring turn out.

How do you know they are?
Get a grip.

Oh how could we forget, a woman always has to be to blame for a violent evil man.

Supposedly we live in a civilised society. Ages ago, we decided that we wouldn't have the death penalty, replacing it with life in imprisonment. Nothing we do to murderers will bring their victims back. I doubt that they should live in fear, nor do I think they should have luxury.

For some prisoners life inside is better than life outside.

How do you know they're not partly responsible for how their sons turned out?

No, living in fear is not the punishment. Losing your freedom is the punishment.

If we regard living in fear as an appropriate part of the punishment, then it will extend to people who are unjustly convicted; prisoners on remand; people convicted of nonviolent crimes; not to mention all the prison staff.

It's not so much 'do murderers and rapists deserve to be safe?' as 'do murderers and rapists (for most serious attackers of other prisoners come into such categories) have the right to continue committing violent crimes in prison/' And I definitely think that the answer is NO.

I didn't say it was right in my replies.

I found it bizarre that people hadn’t thought for a second about who’d they’d be celebrating in their “buy the man who did it a pint” and the “man who did it should be released on the basis of his community service”.

i mean, it was never going to be someone in prison for not paying their council tax that was mixing with Huntley.

Too quick trying to be the first to post online than taking a second to think about the type of person they were celebrating.

They've probably got nothing on the outside

I don’t think they are actually ‘keen’

They are all in a prison where they all are in there for awful crimes.
Still does not make it right for any of them to be attacked.
If they can be attacked, then staff can be attacked.
Their punishment is the deprivation of liberty.

Why are so many keen to reoffend and go back to prison then?

Eww no. He murdered a pregnant woman so I wouldn't be surprised if he isn't a target himself.

No one has a cushy life in prison FFS.

They aren't though. They have very cushy lives in prison. I suspect most of these type of people feel nothing.

I think it was further upthread that someone mentioned a GoFundMe for Huntley's attackers.
Fucking sick.

Jesus, have people really started a GFM for a convicted rapist and triple murderer?

They've pulled his plug out. He'll be dead by morning hopefully 🤩

There is. Routine and earned privileges. The press have had a field day over Huntly having things like an X-box in his cell. They want him to sit in a cell with fuck all.

Better to have things they can work towards having. Otherwise you have people who literally have nothing at all to lose. In that case, why not take it out on fellow inmates, and staff?