Can't stand this attitude re prison attacks

Because falsely accused people who are in prison are just as likely to be assaulted or murdered. If we start going down the road of accepting vigilantes murdering inmates and thinking it's OK then that is likely to happen. Which is why prisoners' safety is essential.

I didn’t say that at all, not sure where you got that from.

I said I don’t lose sleep over falsely accused inmates, not that I’d be happy if they died.

I agree, OP.

Regardless of the crimes for which they were imprisoned, they are still somebody’s Son, Brother, Partner or former friend, and for those, we should show some respect and empathy.

We aren’t, as far as I know, abandoning thousands of years of due Legal Process in favour of the court of Social Media, and the justice that they were already in receipt of should be enough - as WE decided, as a Nation, following the execution of Derek Bentley in the 1950’s and the subsequent campaigns to end Capital punishment.

I'm torn.

I despite the fact that someone like Huntley lives at the expense of the tax payer. He is not deserving in the slightest.
At the same time I completely understand prisons need to be safe and that not everyone on prison is guilty.

That being said I do not feel an ounce of pity when the likes of him and Watkins are attacked or killed. I don't for one minute think they're sat regretting their choices everyday. That they'll suffer in that knowledge til the day they die.

Maybe my past experiences have a lot to do with the way I think.

I really don’t care tbh. Sure I’m not online whooping and cheering, but I could not care less that they’re dead. Sara Sharif’s father was a monster and recently survived an attack; he does not ‘deserve’ to feel safe ever. His daughter deserved that.

I could have just thumbsed-up this. But I've quoted it so that it appears again.

Even so, I was surprised to discover this, as I thought Huntley was on a whole life tariff. He was sentenced over 20 years ago, though, so obviously he was sentenced according to the guidelines at the time. When were whole life tariffs introduced? Maybe they hadn’t been introduced then?

He spent his whole life in prison. The 40 year minimum term, if he’d lived long enough, was just that - a minimum. No guarantee whatsoever he’d have got out. I believe there are strict guidelines for whole life tariffs which the judge would have had to consider

And what does this say about you? You have bizarre priorities.

And also I'd like to add, yes, for now we don't but we'll see.

Do you really think violent prisoners like Russell will distinguish between convicted child killers/paedophiles who really are guilty and those who are not? They won’t care either way, they’ll just attack or kill them regardless.

This is no longer about Huntley, he’s dead and gone now.

So you would be happy if an innocent person was murdered in prison because another offender decided to take the law into their own hands?

I did say offending pedophiles, not accused.

However when this comes up I would much rather more offenders were incarcerated, even if that means some people falsely accused are in there too. Not quite the same situation but similar.

There are so many vile people in the world, far more than are falsely accused. I don’t give it too much mind.

Generally speaking the people I have seen crowing about the attack on Huntley, and Watkins before him, are not the most intellectually robust people I know. I assume the same is true of the strangers I see doing the same here.

I can’t bring myself to feel sympathy for either man, but as you and others have said @BySnappyUmberFish, this speaks to a far larger issue within our prisons and it is not to be celebrated.

And what of those falsely accused - the Stefan Kiszkos of this world? Are they just collateral damage? Is it not bad enough that they're imprisoned for crimes they didn't commit without having them murdered as well?

Yes - it must be soul destroying.

I don’t understand why Huntley didn’t have a whole life tariff. He shouldn’t have had the slightest chance of some do gooding parole board letting him out

Totally agree - people would vote for it , then pretend they didn’t if you got another Christie’s/Rillington place miscarriage of justice or a relative was at risk of it -

Or "handwringing whataboutery" as I was accused of in another thread.

I was reading an article earlier about the murder and disembowelling of a prisoner in Frankland. The prison officers who walked in on the scene were diagnosed with PTSD. But being concerned about this is “performative”.

So? Tough shit. Thankfully people like you don’t make policy in this country.

We really don’t need a referendum on the death penalty. The British public are too stupid for that. See also - Brexit.

We really need to have a referendum on the death penalty. Either that or bring back life sentences that actually mean life behind bars.

Well people like me think that it's not a good enough punishment for the crime.

Toerag?

Murderer
Villain
Convict
Psychopath

You can use words that appropriately describes these men. I'm not going down the "monster" "animal" or "scum" route because that is not helpful.

But toerag ?

Its not a 'culture' of prisoners taking out prisoners, its just murderers being murderers.

Frankly it shouldn't happen in society at all, but these are the exact people that make it happen, that take innocent people's lives and make the world unsafe. They're not going to suddenly change just because they're in prison.