Do I live with an arsehole?

In that situation I'd be much more worried about who exactly this group are and what their action involves, than whether my son was an arsehole, whilst also been pleased he was taking an interest and wanting to get involved.

On the face of it, and occasional late night for a 17yo doesn't seem so awful, although he should let you know where he is and when he'll be back.

He’s not an arsehole.
He’s staying out late with his mates on a school night.

He should probably be getting more sleep but as long as he’s getting to school on time and not being disrespectful to you/your home then there’s not a lot you can do.

Blimey, imagine calling your son an arsehole for standing up for what he deems right. You are aware of the things he could be doing instead right? Drugs. Stealing things. Being abusive to people.
Why do you think he's an arsehole OP?

Don’t see the issue.

In less than a year, he'll be an adult. He has to manage his own schedule, sleep etc. Try not to worry.

But why is he an arsehole? You haven't actually explained that.

High schoolers for Palestine?

Has he got links to Palestine?

Or has he just jumped on a bandwagon?

When my DS was 17 and doing A levels, he was working in Macdonald's until 10pm, 3 X per week. It was always gone 10.45 before he was home (on the bus).
He got his grades just fine.

🙄

Give it a rest.

Is it just the late nights or are you concerned he is being radicalised?

Check our this if you are concerned.

https://www.gov.uk/guidance/get-help-if-youre-worried-about-someone-being-radicalised

How is he in terms of respecting rules and boundaries at home?

I don’t see the problem here? He’s politically engaged, which a lot of young people are not. Its not a cause I would get behind personally but he has convictions and motivation, which is more than can be said for many of his peers.

He is keeping up at school. He’s not drinking or using drugs.

Calling him an arsehole seems very harsh.

I think it is quite common for teenagers to get interested in causes and religion at this age. I would be worried if it was taking over too much. What is the group that he is involved with like and what kind of thing do they do? If he and/or his friends have a connection with that part of the world and are keen to raise awareness and support, then I wouldn't be worried. If he has got in with a bunch of militant activists who are using Palestine as an excuse to be angry and aggressive I would be more concerned.

Your bright, motivated 17 yr old son goes out once a week untill 1045pm and you're calling him an arsehole.......wow 😳

What a bizarre thing to call your Son.

At that age I worked after college until 10pm so probably got home about 11pm. It really isn't any sort of a big deal!

At least he's got a good taste in music.

Going against the grain. At 17 our DS had A'Levels coming up. He didn't go out Sunday to Thursday, except for school related sport: practice and matches. Neither did his friends/social group. A few reprobates did and generally it didn't end well academically.

High schoolers for Palestine may be OK, providing it isn't fostering hate or unduly anti-semitic. I would have concerns in relation to potential extremism and undue influence to be honest.

I have a DD the same age with A levels in a couple of months. She's working hard for her exams, but she plays sport and gets back from training once a week at 10.30pm (plus another night at 8pm and a match at the weekend).

So I think it's fine in terms of getting back at 10.45pm once a week. I can't comment on the safety aspect though.

He's old enough to be out at 10.45 on a week night.
That is all.

A 17 yr old out until 10:45 when they have to be in school at 9am sounds like really a non-issue.

You’ve not mentioned any concerns around the specifics of what he’s doing (as in, what this group actually does) so I assume that isn’t a problem on its own, separate to lateness.

Ηοw so? He sounds very smart and switched on to me.

YABU OP, I would feel very proud of his principles and self-discipline to be home at a reasonable hour. I simply can't see what your problem is.

Clearly not that smart…

Back by 11pm at 17 and has a strong sense of justice

He sounds fantastic. You sound less so.

I mean I don’t agree with his politics, which would probably incur a smiling ‘that’s nice, Dear’ and 10:45 is probably later than I would like on a school night, but yes YABU as he’s engaged, enjoying his social life and passionate about making the world a better place.