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Found out DD isn’t actually at university anymore

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UniversityProblems · 05/03/2026 19:22

Posted here for traffic.
In shock.

DD20 went to Uni Sept 2023. She started in foundation year because she didn't have the required grade in two of her A levels.
She failed the first year at university as she did not complete all her modules and had to repeat the year. In the repeat year, she completed 3 out of her 4 modules. unbeknowst to me). The university let her go. I was totally unaware of this.

Everytime she was asked, she was very positive and I thought all was well. She never had any complaints and chatted happily about uni and uni life.
She went back to school in September (5 months ago) like everything is normal. This week, I found out that she was not actually a student anymore and I went down to find out what was going on. When I saw her my heart broke, it was true. She was in her rented shared accommodation, not really doing anything and she was so thin. She was short of money and had lost significant weight. I brought her home.

She is not talking about what happened, why she didn't tell me what was going on. I really don't have any idea how it all occured and how she was dropped from university.

What can I do to help her? Is it worth having a chat with the university? From experience, would anyone know if there are any other options for her at the university?
Anyone been through similar with their DC?

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UniversityProblems · 06/03/2026 03:55

@FloofBunny and @MojoMoon

"OP, is it possible that it was just the course that was wrong, not being at university?"

"I think he may have had very structured teaching and close supervision of his studies at school and so didn't really have the independent study skills required for university."

I appreciate this and very good points. These both have also occurred to me.

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UniversityProblems · 06/03/2026 03:48

HollaHolla · 06/03/2026 00:55

This must be really upsetting for you all. I completely understand, and have worked in support for students at university for 20 years.
My top pointers just now would be:

  • Let her 'be' for a little while. Continue to be supportive, and make sure she gets healthy - both physically and emotionally. Offer to be there to listen to her.
  • Practically, the university won't talk to you as the parent, unless your daughter provides written confirmation you can discuss. She's a young adult, despite everything, and HEIs have to make sure they are not discussing students/ex-students with parents who might be estranged or abusive, for example. (Not for one moment suggesting this is the case for you.)
  • A clock starts ticking when a student is required to withdraw through failure/non-submission. In my experience, I've not seen an appeal be heard once 8 weeks have passed. This seems likely that it means the ship has sailed with this course/university.
  • You've had some good advice on getting a potential diagnosis for your daughter. I would say that if you have that, she would be a candidate for consideration under contextualised admissions, where any disability would be taken into consideration at application stage.
  • If she wants to go back to study, she needs to be prepared to be open with any other universities she applies for about what's gone wrong this time around. If she did have an SEN diagnosis, for example, this would be quite a compelling reason. I think it would be fairly unlikely she would get back in to do the same thing in the same place - but might do, if it's a recruiting course, rather than selecting.
  • Finally - telling extended family and friends is up to her. She has to be ready to do that. The reasons for her coming home are really nobody else's business. Just 'I'm not at Uni any more' is fine. Shame and gossip isn't helpful in these situations.
I truly hope that she finds a way forward, gets healthy, and finds something else to drive her forward. Take care.

It's the clock starts ticking thing that had me wanting to contact the university. Finding out that she had not been in university since September at least, filled me with urgency to try and all I could think was 'it's been so much time'. Also as @FloofBunny has said, it may be that it is university but the course.

Helpful to know that clock stopped at 8 weeks. A pp mentioned, she may have been given academic advice when she was dropped. I will find out when she is ready to talk.

Re: your 5th point, also very helpful.
Such a helpful post. Thank-you. She is home for now, I will wait and see if she still wants university.

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CharlieRight · 06/03/2026 02:15

I think she needs to be at home with you for a little longer, that's fine. Maybe a local Uni or college course might work better for her or straight into employment. I think employment actually, let her have a break from academia and earn a bit of money. I had a couple of years in work after my undergraduate degree and then went back to Uni for a masters and felt highly motivated.

FloofBunny · 06/03/2026 01:35

OP, is it possible that it was just the course that was wrong, not being at university? Is there something else she would like to study? If so, maybe going to her local uni and living at home would be better. It does sound like she needs support.

If not uni, there are other training opportunities, for which hopefully she could live at home too. An example would be hairdressing/beautician training. People pay a fortune for massages, highlights etc! Or there's the police, or primary-teacher training, or nursing. I know the last two involve uni, but they might be courses that suit her better. Also, there are apprenticeships.

It's not the end of the world! So this course didn't work out. There are plenty of other things she can do!

begonia27 · 06/03/2026 01:32

Well done for bringing her home and for looking for suggestions for how to help her. That in itself says to me you will find a way to get her through this. I definitely think this is more common than people realise - young people struggle but don’t want to confront the issues or disappoint anyone. I would let her decompress for a bit, encourage her to check in with her GP around mood / weight if you think there are issues there, and maybe in a little while encourage her to look into some volunteering or a low pressure job in something she might enjoy to build some skills and get some confidence back. Loads of people have a false start or several false starts before they find their feet. It’s hard when they have told such a massive untruth but it’s just desperation at that point and she must have felt so awful. At least now it’s all out in the open and you have her home. Some young people end up ending their lives in this kind of situation because they just don’t know how to get out of it, you have done so well to see what’s happening and get her home. She’s safely home, the rest will fall into place when she’s ready.

researchers3 · 06/03/2026 01:23

WallaceinAnderland · 05/03/2026 19:36

You don't know what experiences she has had. There could be trauma. Just let her heal and don't put any pressure on her. Food, rest and a place where she can just be herself is probably all she needs right now.

Some walks in the fresh air, cooking, gardening, some kind of hobby will all help. She is young, she has her whole life ahead of her.

Agree with this. Especially as she has lost loads of weight.

HollaHolla · 06/03/2026 00:55

This must be really upsetting for you all. I completely understand, and have worked in support for students at university for 20 years.
My top pointers just now would be:

  • Let her 'be' for a little while. Continue to be supportive, and make sure she gets healthy - both physically and emotionally. Offer to be there to listen to her.
  • Practically, the university won't talk to you as the parent, unless your daughter provides written confirmation you can discuss. She's a young adult, despite everything, and HEIs have to make sure they are not discussing students/ex-students with parents who might be estranged or abusive, for example. (Not for one moment suggesting this is the case for you.)
  • A clock starts ticking when a student is required to withdraw through failure/non-submission. In my experience, I've not seen an appeal be heard once 8 weeks have passed. This seems likely that it means the ship has sailed with this course/university.
  • You've had some good advice on getting a potential diagnosis for your daughter. I would say that if you have that, she would be a candidate for consideration under contextualised admissions, where any disability would be taken into consideration at application stage.
  • If she wants to go back to study, she needs to be prepared to be open with any other universities she applies for about what's gone wrong this time around. If she did have an SEN diagnosis, for example, this would be quite a compelling reason. I think it would be fairly unlikely she would get back in to do the same thing in the same place - but might do, if it's a recruiting course, rather than selecting.
  • Finally - telling extended family and friends is up to her. She has to be ready to do that. The reasons for her coming home are really nobody else's business. Just 'I'm not at Uni any more' is fine. Shame and gossip isn't helpful in these situations.
I truly hope that she finds a way forward, gets healthy, and finds something else to drive her forward. Take care.
OrlandointheWilderness · 06/03/2026 00:49

You sound like a lovely mum and she sounds like a lovely DD. I suspect it’s a small lie that got out of hand and became a massive one. What course was she studying?

just keep things normal but don’t let her fester and withdraw - walks, normal life and exercise will help I hope. In time she might want to talk but it might help to tell her you love her, understand something has been going on but you don’t judge her and if she is ready to share you are here.

Ringthebell26 · 06/03/2026 00:49

Your poor girl. I glad she is home. X

ImImmortalNowBabyDoll · 06/03/2026 00:36

What is the subject and what were her A level grades?

clary · 06/03/2026 00:03

Good post from @MojoMoon

This in particular resonated:
I think he may have had very structured teaching and close supervision of his studies at school and so didn't really have the independent study skills required for university. He seemed quite sheltered as well so I think not living at home had been harder than anticipated for him in first year.

I think this is a real and perhaps understated issue. I would not presume to say this is the case for your DD @UniversityProblems as ofc it may not be; but I know a good number of YP who have had an issue in this way.

I wish I could tell you all the people I know who have left uni without their degree @UniversityProblems – not bc it will console you, necessarily (tho I do believe that experiences are not wasted if we can learn from them) but to show how common it is.

BreakingBroken · 06/03/2026 00:01

my eldest struggled with the transition from high school to uni, developed extreme exam anxiety and although excellent at class and course work failed multiple courses due to the final exam...two years later he returned home.
worked and insisted he really really wanted to take the uni course that he had his heart set on. we said he could only do courses at the local college, this is where we got to see the excellent work he was doing and equally the debilitating anxiety that had developed to exams (vomiting diarrhea). with a few successful courses under his belt from the local college (which only offered the first two years of uni courses) he then moved away to another well regarded college. eventually assessed, diagnosed with inattentive adhd. while working part time and taking courses part time he eventually completed his desired degree.
no employer cared, the fact it took him several years to complete his degree didn't have any repercussions.

so op, what ever caused your dd to struggle the past 2 years. it will be okay.
at some point you and her will need to know what courses she did complete.

UniversityProblems · 05/03/2026 23:58

Ramblingaway · 05/03/2026 23:50

Oh, and she's entitled to sign on with the job centre and get help from them too.

Ah.. thanks.
I didn't think of that.

Honestly, i haven't really been able to think.
Just want her to feel safe and loved.

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UniversityProblems · 05/03/2026 23:56

Ramblingaway · 05/03/2026 23:49

I thought it might help to have some ideas to help her get back on her feet bit by bit (things my mum got me going with when I dropped out or was struggling mentally in my late teens and early twenties). Going to the gym, singing in a choir, voluntary work, part time work at the local pub, short course at the local college. Dad dragged me on obligatory dog walks and a bit of hill walking. I suspect I was a bit grumpy for some of it, but it did build me back up. I'd spent my whole childhood being defined by being 'the clever one' and without that and a 'proper job' I didn't know who I was, or how to value myself. All those activities helped to put the pieces back together. But in the end, it was only when I met my husband to be that he told me he loved me for being kind, not clever that I got it sorted out in my (probably ASD black and white thinking) head. So find things to praise her for, and say them out loud ( I don't know why but my mum and dad never did).

Thank-you for your post. I don't know why but it's made me teary.
Maybe it's your kindness, or the shock wearing off, maybe it's wondering why people would conclude i am a bad parent because she didn't confide in me, maybe it's the pure loveliness of most of the posters.
I feel like i have been running a marathon. I am tired. Thank-you for your kind words and suggestions. I hope you hear lots of praise now.

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Ramblingaway · 05/03/2026 23:50

Oh, and she's entitled to sign on with the job centre and get help from them too.

UniversityProblems · 05/03/2026 23:50

MojoMoon · 05/03/2026 23:29

When I was at uni 20 years ago, a friend lived in a house share with two other students in second year.

One of his housemates had failed first year, failed the summer resits in August and so was not actually a student when they all moved in for the start of term at end of Sept.

This housemate lied to both of the other housemates for an entire year that he was going to lectures etc. he would leave the house and say "I've for medieval military history this morning".

They realised this in the second term when they spoke to some other people on the same course.
So they would ask "how was your day? What was the lecture on today?" And he would give them all this detail about what they had studied that day that was all made up. He would ring his mum and tell her all about his course as well and complain about essay deadlines.

They didn't let him know they knew. The other two were doing a third year abroad so there was no question of renewing the lease and he claimed he was going to move in for third year with some other people from his course

He went home that summer and they never heard from him again.

Incredible set of lies to keep up for a year. I do wonder what happened to him.

I think he was deeply ashamed of having failed and just didn't know how to accept it. I think he may have had very structured teaching and close supervision of his studies at school and so didn't really have the independent study skills required for university. He seemed quite sheltered as well so I think not living at home had been harder than anticipated for him in first year.

So it isn't that rare. I think she needs some reassurance that she hasn't disappointed you or anyone else but also don't let her fester at home moping and not doing anything for too long. She needs to get back out into the world rapidly so that she doesn't start to view herself as a failure stuck at home who isn't capable of more.
She needs something new - part time job in a bar, volunteering role, etc. Something that helps build some self-confidence up again and independence. The skills atrophy if they aren't being used.

She can then think about next steps, studying or working.

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I can relate to this.

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Ramblingaway · 05/03/2026 23:49

I thought it might help to have some ideas to help her get back on her feet bit by bit (things my mum got me going with when I dropped out or was struggling mentally in my late teens and early twenties). Going to the gym, singing in a choir, voluntary work, part time work at the local pub, short course at the local college. Dad dragged me on obligatory dog walks and a bit of hill walking. I suspect I was a bit grumpy for some of it, but it did build me back up. I'd spent my whole childhood being defined by being 'the clever one' and without that and a 'proper job' I didn't know who I was, or how to value myself. All those activities helped to put the pieces back together. But in the end, it was only when I met my husband to be that he told me he loved me for being kind, not clever that I got it sorted out in my (probably ASD black and white thinking) head. So find things to praise her for, and say them out loud ( I don't know why but my mum and dad never did).

UniversityProblems · 05/03/2026 23:48

Autumngirl5 · 05/03/2026 23:32

Are you sure it is your daughter’s dream and not yours?

My dream for her is to be happy with whatever she wants to do.

Apart from academics, she's extremely gifted in styling.
From a young age, she's styled her siblings, myself, her aunties, friends, my friends.
Once she's home, family and friends come round to ask her opinion on their outfits. A friend of my sister's gives her budget and she will go and shop for her. She is a very good thrift shopper. Buys clothes at very affordable prices but when she styles them... you would never guess. She truly is a great girl.

I am sure it was her dream.

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Autumngirl5 · 05/03/2026 23:32

UniversityProblems · 05/03/2026 23:18

I have now read all the posts.
I sincerely appreciate all the support and advice. There are so many I would love to reply directly too but there are so many.

For pp that have mentioned finances/accommodation/council tax etc, thank-you. That totally slipped my mind. I will keep it noted so i can return to it when I have a bit of space to think.

To the posters that have expressed surprise that my daughter failed her foundation year twice and I still want to speak to the university... I hope I can explain - until yesterday, I had a DD who was always top of her class, always had great ambition and a clear focus of what she wanted to do as an adult. I had a DD who to the best of my knowledge was thriving at university academically, socially, mentally and physically. My brain is still trying to catch up to the new reality.
Of course, my initial instinct what has happened? How? When?(which i am still not sure of), can i speak to the university find out what happened, how can i help her, can i help her preserve any part of her dreams so it is there when she comes through whatever is going on. These were/are my instincts. I know what my DD has always wanted, planned towards.. I guess i was just being her mum. Wanting to save something for her, do my best for her.

I am not going, yep you have failed your foundation year twice, i am not having that, you must go to university etc etc.
I know university is not for everyone and may not be for her. But i don't know what's going on with her right now.

To the posters questioning my parenting, I can only smile.

Are you sure it is your daughter’s dream and not yours?

WingsTingle · 05/03/2026 23:31

My DS is just about to leave his Foundation year, I think… he’s still been at home, though, so it’s been quite obvious, but the experience just hasn’t suited him at all. The course subject still interests him, but the learning methods and the wider experience he was ‘sold’ at the open days have been nothing like he thought. He is very disillusioned…
Its hard to watch because I really regret not taking my chance to go to uni and could be in a very different place by now if I had - but I’m trying not to project my feelings onto him and to respect his journey. I hope your daughter is soon back on her feet and finds her path, OP - it’s tough x

MojoMoon · 05/03/2026 23:29

When I was at uni 20 years ago, a friend lived in a house share with two other students in second year.

One of his housemates had failed first year, failed the summer resits in August and so was not actually a student when they all moved in for the start of term at end of Sept.

This housemate lied to both of the other housemates for an entire year that he was going to lectures etc. he would leave the house and say "I've for medieval military history this morning".

They realised this in the second term when they spoke to some other people on the same course.
So they would ask "how was your day? What was the lecture on today?" And he would give them all this detail about what they had studied that day that was all made up. He would ring his mum and tell her all about his course as well and complain about essay deadlines.

They didn't let him know they knew. The other two were doing a third year abroad so there was no question of renewing the lease and he claimed he was going to move in for third year with some other people from his course

He went home that summer and they never heard from him again.

Incredible set of lies to keep up for a year. I do wonder what happened to him.

I think he was deeply ashamed of having failed and just didn't know how to accept it. I think he may have had very structured teaching and close supervision of his studies at school and so didn't really have the independent study skills required for university. He seemed quite sheltered as well so I think not living at home had been harder than anticipated for him in first year.

So it isn't that rare. I think she needs some reassurance that she hasn't disappointed you or anyone else but also don't let her fester at home moping and not doing anything for too long. She needs to get back out into the world rapidly so that she doesn't start to view herself as a failure stuck at home who isn't capable of more.
She needs something new - part time job in a bar, volunteering role, etc. Something that helps build some self-confidence up again and independence. The skills atrophy if they aren't being used.

She can then think about next steps, studying or working.

Sunshineandoranges · 05/03/2026 23:27

I used to work in a university. Sometimes i would find myself talking to a very troubled student who felt they were on a course they didnt like or were struggling with. I would explain to them that life consisted of many paths and that it was ok if you found yourself on the wrong path,to change direction. It was a great relief to many to realise it is quite common for students to experience finding themselves on the wrong course. For some university wasnt the right path for them.Also, some passed modules can sometimes count as credits towards other courses. I wish your daughter well.

RosieSpring · 05/03/2026 23:27

What shared housing is your DD in? Is it connected to the university?

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UniversityProblems · 05/03/2026 23:18

I have now read all the posts.
I sincerely appreciate all the support and advice. There are so many I would love to reply directly too but there are so many.

For pp that have mentioned finances/accommodation/council tax etc, thank-you. That totally slipped my mind. I will keep it noted so i can return to it when I have a bit of space to think.

To the posters that have expressed surprise that my daughter failed her foundation year twice and I still want to speak to the university... I hope I can explain - until yesterday, I had a DD who was always top of her class, always had great ambition and a clear focus of what she wanted to do as an adult. I had a DD who to the best of my knowledge was thriving at university academically, socially, mentally and physically. My brain is still trying to catch up to the new reality.
Of course, my initial instinct what has happened? How? When?(which i am still not sure of), can i speak to the university find out what happened, how can i help her, can i help her preserve any part of her dreams so it is there when she comes through whatever is going on. These were/are my instincts. I know what my DD has always wanted, planned towards.. I guess i was just being her mum. Wanting to save something for her, do my best for her.

I am not going, yep you have failed your foundation year twice, i am not having that, you must go to university etc etc.
I know university is not for everyone and may not be for her. But i don't know what's going on with her right now.

To the posters questioning my parenting, I can only smile.

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