£40,000 per family to leave UK should be open to everyone

Yes, apparently at least 2 billionaires have been created by letting asylum hotels/HMOs to the government. The contracts for accommodation and care packages etc for asylum seekers involved are billions and billions and there is very little transparency over the deals. An MP is currently trying to obtain some information but the government are not giving it up easily.

Well yes, it’s a bit like trying to solve any human ‘problem’ that’s existed for millennia. People move around, we can’t ’solve’ immigration but defining and dealing with the problems some immigration causes some of the time and in some places is more pragmatic. Paying people to go home is a pragmatic solution to the problem of having to house people and go through legal processes to remove them. But for some people perfection is more desirable, so in that sense I guess no, there are no solutions that will please everyone.

From the BBC article.

I have a few questions.

Why can’t we just deport failed asylum seekers??

Won’t this incentivise even more spurious ‘asylum’ claims from people who would like to make a quick £40k - not to mention giving a great marketing angle to the people traffickers. It doesn’t matter that it targets only 150 families initially - the fact that they are offering it to anyone at all is a gift for people traffickers.

How is housing a family of three costing £158,000 per year??

That’s £432 per night!! I could get a very nice hotel for that.

Families of failed asylum seekers will be offered up to £40,000 to leave the UK under a trial scheme announced by Home Secretary Shabana Mahmood.
Mahmood said the government would seek to forcibly remove failed asylum seekers if they do not accept "incentive payments" of up to £10,000 per person, capped at four per family, within seven days.
The scheme is expected to target about 150 families living in taxpayer-funded accommodation, and the Home Office estimates it could save £20m if successful.
However, the Conservatives and Reform UK said the payments would incentivise people to come to the UK illegally.
Mahmood unveiled the scheme as she sought make the "Labour case" for restricting support to some asylum seekers in a speech to a left-leaning think tank on Thursday.
The government already runs a voluntary returns programme, under which asylum seekers who choose to leave the UK can receive up to £3,000 in financial support.
Mahmood said housing a family of three in asylum accommodation costs up to £158,000 per year.

There are, but it looks like what's currently happening in the US and we'd need to leave the ECHR.

There appear to be no solutions to the immigration problem😟

Because back in the day anyone who supported the BNP/national front etc WERE racist and unless they were proper wrong ‘uns they would never admit support for these parties - they certainly wouldn’t tell Sky News (or equivalent) in the street that that’s who they were voting for. You wouldn’t have got 60 year old Shiela proudly stating that she was voting for the BNP …

Now we have Reform which is NOT far right at all, they speak “some” sense. People are happy to say they vote for them and more importantly - why. They’re leading in the polls because people are finally speaking up - can you name a time when the BNP were top of every UK opinion poll?

While we’re at it - can you give me an example of a truly racist reform policy?

Rupert Lowe on the other hand makes Nigel Farage look left wing! Yet they too are gaining momentum. Shouting “racist” at people has lost its meaning - nobody cares anymore.

Shame the word wasn’t kept for actual racism.

I'm entitled to the opinion I expressed, as you are to yours. I do find it unhelpful that you're unable to express your disagreement politely though.

There’s just no consistent evidence that off shore processing is a deterrent, and it’s really really expensive.

I am happy to say I would be busy as resentful having to pay £10k each for illegal immigrants to leave if they were white. And I'm sure everyone else feels the same. So do one with your illogical unevidenced assertions.

Adding the link OP omitted .

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/asylum-seekers-payments-hotels-40k-shabana-mahmood-immigration-b2932630.html

To have context. It is much cheaper than housing them pending assessment but also acts as an incentive. Offshore processing would be a bigger discincentive.

Well it shouldn't. It shouldn't be open to failed asylum seekers either. If you're a failed asylum seeker you're just an illegal immigrant. The only incentive you should be given to leave is a plane ticket and a fervent wish that the door doesn't hit your arse on the way out.

I was responding to one particular comment. I stand by my view that racism has become normalised and it's evident here, as in the wider world.

Yes, MN is famously full of people afraid to speak their minds. 🙄

Would you (or all those alleged others who agree with you) really give up your citizenship for 10k per family member? I don’t think many people would, and therefore the benefits to the rest of us citizens are small. Whereas the benefit of not having to go through protracted legal proceedings and deportation, for 10k per person, is significant.

How is it racist to say failed asylum seekers / illegal immigrants shouldn't be allowed to stay.

The UK is a small island, with homeless people on the streets, hospitals that can't meet demand, young people with degrees that can't get suitable employment.

Why on earth do we want more people ?

I'll third that, if they are here illegally, bump them on a plane and send them home.
Why encourage people to come just to get paid to leave.
Stupid.

lol when was there a time when racists didn’t have a platform. From Enoch Powell to BNP to Tommy Robinson to Nigel Farage.

Racists have never been censored.

Yes. Racism has become normalised now,as evidenced on this site.

If the country you are going to accepts you having £40k then go for it.

Nobody should be afraid to speak up anymore - the days of branding anyone “racist” who dares to speak up are gone. Hence why the polling is the way it is.

Why?

Failed asylum seekers should not be in paid housing. They should be returned to their own country because their asylum claim fails. If we have an open door policy to house everyone for free in the world we will run out of houses and money... oh too late.

And I wonder if this includes failed “asylum seekers” who commit crime here before they fuck off back to their own backwards countries - do they get £10k each too? After the legal aid they receive for their court appearances? Absolutely crazy

They shouldn’t be paid anything - just deport.

Otherwise it’s worth claiming “asylum” just for the £10k alone

No payoff would satisfy the courts.

We are stuck with you sadly.

If they came here illegally in the first place, how do you stop them pocketing the 40k and then coming back here illegally again?

Aren't biometrics taken ?