£40,000 per family to leave UK should be open to everyone

Go for it. https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/renunciation/renunciation-accessible I don’t think they’ll give you Skittles but we can probably do a whip round for you.

Let me see, foul weather, rotten Labour government, huge inflation, high crime rates especially against women, unreliable public transport, broken health services - yep, I'd take it

Given the state of our country I’d probably renounce my citizenship for a fiver and a bag of skittles

Maybe they can charge more VAT in order to afford this 😂 - they will defo get voted in again 😂

Quite a few countries. Most countries do offer asylum. You could try your luck in Iran or turkey, both of which take more asylum seekers than any other country in the world. Turkey in particular spends billions every year on asylum seekers.

This ridiculous scheme makes a mockery of the asylum system - we are basically putting up our hands and saying "if you come over here as an economic migrant with no real case for asylum we can't get rid of you - we will have to bribe you to leave". What's even more bonkers is that you get more money if you have your wife and kids with you - so this will incentivise people who are not genuine asylum seekers to make the journey with children in tow! Then there's the fact that no-one in the government has thought about how much the average salary is in the countries we would be returning these people to...To give an example Pakistan the average annual salary is £2655 - so if I can try my luck and get my family over to the UK and fail my asylum case, pocket £40K I will be able to return home and not have to work for the next 15 years? Does no-one see that we are basically being held to ransom over this?

Agree re jobs, though the costs of housing could be mitigated if people were able to work, and it’s quite well documented that being in decent work is better for health than being unemployed, so there would be a cost saving there. That could even come from allowing people to volunteer.

What does UK offer that France Germany or the Netherlands don't

You can find the answer to that in lots of places.

welcoming people?

Obviously in the past people occasionally moved around and didn't even have to have passports until fairly recently. However now we are in the age of the internet and mass travel and the population in continents such as Africa rising exponentially whereas our governments seem to think laws written in the 1950s are suitable. That's before you get to human rights laws, welfare etc. I personally think the mass movements of people are intentional and part of the one world government being pushed by the UN, WEF etc. so nothing will change short-term until more people wake up.

The UK doesn't have jobs for the people we have, nor enough housing.

The UK does need to make itself less attractive to migrant people, remembering they are travelling across Europe, Europe which is safe. What does UK offer that France Germany or the Netherlands don't

When people come to this country and claim asylum they are prevented from getting a job and housed where the government chooses to put them. It may be that a proportion are happy to be housed and fed and not work, but we won’t know that while the rules prevent anyone from earning their own keep.

People have moved around for millennia however the country they arrived in haven't been expected to house and feed them.
Educate their children or provide hospital care.

You can see the transparency requirements and you can see - eg - the contract values. Do the transparency requirements mean more should be published? If not, then what’s your point? As I said before, commercial info will be redacted, why do you think it wouldn’t be?

ETA I’m not arguing that the contract values are good or right or anything else.

I’d have to reread to be sure of the details but I believe there was an initial reduction and then things resumed more or less the same.

This is why more and more people will vote for Reform.

I really don’t understand.

pp said: Nobody should be afraid to speak up anymore - the days of branding anyone “racist” who dares to speak up are gone. Hence why the polling is the way it is.

You said Yes. Racism has become normalised now,as evidenced on this site.

You made the claim that there is evidence of racism in this site and are appearing to imply that many talking about this topic are racists. That is quite a big accusation.

I’m just asking for your evidence, I think that’s only reasonable.

Yes there is a distinct lack of transparency in how these multi billion £ contracts were awarded.

First example an ongoing £1.5 billion contract awarded to an obscure company in Bradford for providing of accommodation and services for when the asylum seekers were housed in Dorset on the Bibby Stockholm.

Huge sections of the contracts redacted. Little or no information on tendering. I’m saying this as the current government and the Tories are also responsible.

It’s a joke Op and if this is true it’s disgusting.
I want my tax to go to British families in need and other worthwhile causes related to this country.

I was responding to a specific post and I've stated that quite clearly already. I am certainly not going to engage with a poster who makes reference to what I've "supposedly" seen.

Have a pleasant evening.

Fair enough. I have never read deeply into it. Just comparing it to Australia’s Operation “Sovereign Borders” which seemed to halt boat arrivals significantly (which I am sure was also down to other things too.)

You are implying that we are all racists first having this discussion. That is not polite ir helpful.

Please give an example of this racism you feel is so normalised.

Yes - and since you’ve found the transparency requirements, why are you questioning the lack of transparency? You can see from the contract finder what has been let, are you suggesting the government is failing to meet its legal obligations as set out in the requirements?

Are you aware that there are rules on transparency in government contracts over £25,000 to prevent corruption?

www.gov.uk/government/publications/procurement-and-contracting-transparency-requirements-guidance

This is a discussion about Shabana Mahmood proposals - are you calling her a racist? Is a discussion about deporting failed asylum seekers ‘racist’?

Can you show any of this racism you have supposedly seen here?

If it’s commercially sensitive then the government can’t ’give it up easily’. And it will be the commercial entities that want it kept secret, not the government.