Religion in the workplace

You didn't actually answer my questions:

How do practising Muslims avoid food during daylight hours if they work in a restaurant or supermarket? Food is 'wafting' under their noses all day. In addition, are they permitted to prepare and cook food at home during fasting hours (to eat later in the day)?

Am I missing something or are working-class Muslims expected to have more self-control than the 'lanyard class'?

but being offended or upset by your co-workers birthday cake during Ramadam is OK because .... religion?

Nobody is asking them to stop.

They are are asking them to BE MINDFUL!

Being offended by that is, IMO, butt hurt and childish.

It doesn't hurt to think about others and frankly, with the amount of pure ignorance and propaganda about Islam in this country I really don't blame employers for trying to head issues off at the pass.

Sorry but you are the one who sounds intolerant.

You clearly aren't reading the posts where people think exactly that. People who wouldn't eat cake, or take in birthday cake, or would invite people for a drink or coffee after work to avoid cake!
And as I said that in itself takes no notice of what Muslims might do to break their fast or the actual time the fast will end. Inviting people to an event they can't attend seems rather silly to me. Even sillier than just carrying on as normal.

I don’t think religion has a place in the workplace in terms of company emails etc. I think people’s religions should be accepted in terms of their dress and dietary/prayer whatever, though I would not expect others to have to follow suit (no cake debate). I may not eat meat on Fridays but I would not recoil in horror and be offended if someone brought in a ham sandwich.
I also don’t agree with state funded religious schools. C of E, Catholic, whatever, fine have them but not funded by me. Separate issue but connected.

"Nobody is required to support anything. Just get on with your work day."

Exactly my point - on this we agree.

Employers need to butt out of trying to steer people religiously.

But if you read the OP, this thread is exactly about her employer trying to get its employees to support religious people in their religion.

from the OP - her employer asked her to be involved in
"”showing visible support, encouraging meaningful conversations, and deepening our understanding of the experiences of those of observences”

I consider religion to be a personal thing and therefore it should be completely separate from the workplace.

I don’t want to lose my Easter and Christmas bank holidays though.

I did.

Nobody was offended.

No you are not bringing up paedophiles. You know that plenty of Islamic countries manage to combine their faith with legal ages of marriages that exclude pre-pubescent children.
Talking about ramadan is simply that.

Just like I can discuss Christmas without needing to also bring up that a number of US states don’t have minimum age of marriage as a sop to Evangelicals.

Strewth.

Nobody is required to support anything. Just get on with your work day.

Lectured? When were you lectured?

Nobody has said that no one should have cake in the office. Nobody has said cake will “offend”. And presumably the Purim bake sale could be in a different room? If, indeed there were any Muslim staff members at the place of work concerned? Which, considering that only about 6% of the population are Muslim is quite likely….

What experience? There are plenty of people who have to work on Yom Kippur. Surely workplaces should accommodate those people. My workplace doesn't because it is selective about who it thinks is important.

You clearly don't understand my point.
Please read the posts from people who say cake should not be in the office during Ramadan.

Nobody was offended.

Political, as in left wing politics fetes some groups/topics (trans people, muslims (especially palestinians), climate change, critical race theory) and ignores or demonizes others.

from the OP - her employer asked her to be involved in

"”showing visible support, encouraging meaningful conversations, and deepening our understanding of the experiences of those of observences”

i.e. learn about your colleageus religious choices and support them visibly and meaningfully.

The problem with this is when you pick up the "beautiful joyful peaceful" end of a religious stick, you are also picking up the "paedophiles enabled by their religion to marry & abuse young girls" other end of the stick.

many people simply want to live without caring about or being involved in religion for many good and valid reasons. This does not make them racist.

But so many who call for tolerance and understanding towards religion are very intolerant and not at all understanding on those of us who for whatever reason do not wish to have their employer guide them religiously.

Then again religions being intolerant of other religions or no religion is nothing new.

It's not weird. We have people on this thread saying no one should have cake in the office during Ramadan because it would offend Muslims. You have stated no one was offended. So having a bake sale for Purim didn't offend Muslims, despite it being Ramadan. Some people are adamant that a colleague bringing in cake for a birthday would offend. Its a case of some finding offence for another group who aren't offended.
And it's always possible to offend and not know it.

You are not working with a religion.

You are working with people. And a email saying some colleagues are observing Ramadan is not pushing faith onto you.

This definitely happened.

But I also don’t see any comparison to child abuse and fasting. Nor do I see a post telling you people will be fasting means asking you to support any religion.

It was this week. Nobody was offended. Your post is weird.

I don't think you've been lectured to enough, given your attitude.

So, no more bank holidays at Christmas or Easter?

No more Christmas lunches or parties or bonuses or Christmas jumper days?

Or is it just references to Islam that you want to ban?

not TOC (Tory Office Cake) in the month of Ramadam <faints>